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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 19:40:50
Message: <slrn7ui8uu.1b5.parkerr@linux.parkerr.fwi.com>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:29:32 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker                USA  (Indiana ?)

Fort Wayne, Indiana, to be precise.


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 19:52:18
Message: <qWrpN9Y4=+ZJm8Rx7RbM1dABq5Ni@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:52:55 -0800, "Mr. Art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:

>          99.7278 Peter Popov Bulgaria

Hey I'm 19 years 6 months 18 days 1 hour old as of typing this
message, for Pete's sake!

March 5, 1980, ~1:30 a.m. (from the medical record), Sofia, Bulgaria

Grandpa Tony, it's your turn :)


Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700


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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 19:57:41
Message: <b2zpN+nYhN=U1l55NZ9Ggm0OZ7C3@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:52:55 -0800, "Mr. Art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:

>Here you go Ken.
>b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
>          Age in
>          Years
>26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
>03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance Birch
>26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
>25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
>11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler
>11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
>29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst
>15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich    Duisburg, Germany
>07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
>22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
>22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
>16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
>21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler
>31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann        Bremerhaven, Germany
>11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute
>27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
>28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
>14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz
>27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
>02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman
>15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
>16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
>30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
>14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
>11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
>10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    Anchorage, Alaska
>31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes
>19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tylor             Southern Califonia
>16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt
>11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
>01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson
correction;
05 Jan 33 66 David Wilkinson  Hamilton Scotland


>28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
>          99.7278 Peter Popov Bulgaria
>          99.7278 TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
>
David
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:05:41
Message: <37E96E2C.DDEF4672@pacbell.net>
David Wilkinson wrote:

> >01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson
> correction;
> 05 Jan 33 66 David Wilkinson  Hamilton Scotland

At your age you are going to fight for that 5 months ? <g>

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From: Jerome M  BERGER
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:41:20
Message: <37E97724.C2584F98@enst.fr>
"Mr. Art" wrote:
> 
> Here you go Ken.
> b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
>           Age in
>           Years
> 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
> 03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance Birch
> 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler
> 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst
> 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich    Duisburg, Germany
> 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli

23-Sep-75, ~9am 23.99 Jerome Berger Levallois-Perret, France

> 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
> 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler
> 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann        Bremerhaven, Germany
> 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute
> 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz
> 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman
> 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    Anchorage, Alaska
> 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes
> 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tylor             Southern Califonia
> 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt
> 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> 01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson
> 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
>           99.7278 Peter Popov Bulgaria
>           99.7278 TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Survey of ages <- 3rd time's a charm...
Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:48:30
Message: <37e978de@news.povray.org>
> 03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance

EGADS!!!  IT HAPPENED AGAIN!!!
OK, for the third time, I'll clear this up once and for all...

I'm born on 11 March 1983, *not* 3 November 1983.

:)  Thank you, now I feel older again... hehehe, and plus, now I'm legal...
*laughs*

Lance.


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:49:54
Message: <37e97932@news.povray.org>
What about at my age?  Same thing just happened to me!!!  >:|
*see lower thread*

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:37E96E2C.DDEF4672@pacbell.net...
>
>
> David Wilkinson wrote:
>
> > >01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson
> > correction;
> > 05 Jan 33 66 David Wilkinson  Hamilton Scotland
>
> At your age you are going to fight for that 5 months ? <g>
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: David Heys
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 21:42:30
Message: <37E9801B.6B522855@hotmail.com>
Ken wrote:

> b-day     Computed Handle/ Name             Place
>           Age in
>           Years

<bleh> Not sure where on this thread to pipe in on this, so this spot
looks as liekly as any other:

23-Apr-61    38ish    David Heys    USA Anchorage, Alaska


David


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 21:53:34
Message: <37E98872.4F510215@tapestry.tucson.az.us>
Ken wrote:

> b-day     Computed Handle/ Name             Place
>           Age in
>           Years
> 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan (Brendan)
> 03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance Birch               Austrailia
> 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler            Tucson, Arizona, USA
> <------------------<<
> 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst              Estonia
> 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich         Duisburg, Germany
> 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker                USA  (Indiana ?)
> 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler            Germany
> 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann            Bremerhaven, Germany
> 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute
> 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz               USA Southern California
> 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman              UK
> 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)        USA Anchorage, Alaska
> 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes                USA
> 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler                 USA Southern California
> 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt               USA Florida
> 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> 01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson           Scotland, Hamilton
> 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
> **        99.7278 Peter Popov               Bulgaria
> **        99.7278 TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
>
> Average age 31.2763
>
> ** the last two were thrown out due to lack of vital statistics.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 22:58:46
Message: <37e99766@news.povray.org>
>Grandpa Tony, it's your turn :)

<voice type  = "old geezer">Weelll... as I recall.... it was on a sunny
morning at 11:AM on the 5th of February, 1982. T'was a good year. I also
recall these famous events that happened on that day...
http://www.yarranet.net.au/onthisday/0205.htm Ah, yes, and who could
forget...? http://www.pathfinder.com/Life/thisday/990205.html And we
couldn't go without mentioning: http://www.historychannel.com/thisday/
(check out Feb. 5, you'll get some of Panama's history*) </voice>

*US version. I don't trust anybody's history of what happened in this
country. Nobody was on both sides to know what the other was thinking. The
history we get in school tells of the 'evil' USA trampling over our
sovernty, and shooting inocent people in '89. The US version justifies their
actions as noble. I love both countries. I believe neither story.... =)


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 22 Sep 1999 23:05:52
Message: <37e99910@news.povray.org>
I just found another page. I claims Bob Marley was born on February 5th,
1945. Yeah, mon... let's get together and feel allright!


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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:01:44
Message: <37E9A707.E18F1D50@tiac.net>
Slightly updated. Lance is older, David W. won't have to fight for
those 5 month's and Ken is reunited with the Tyler family.

"Mr. Art" wrote:
> 
> Here you go Ken.
> b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
>           Age in
>           Years
> 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
> 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> 11-Mar-83 16      Lance Birch           Australia
> 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> 05-Feb-82 17      TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler         Tucson, Arizona, USA
> 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> 05-Mar-80 19      Peter Popov           Bulgaria
> 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst          Estonia
> 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich     Duisburg, Germany
> 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> 23-Sep-75 23.99   Jerome Berger         Levallois-Perret, France
> 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
> 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler         Germany
> 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann         Bremerhaven, Germany
> 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute             USA, New Hampshire
> 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz            USA Southern California
> 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman           UK
> 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    USA Anchorage, Alaska
> 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes            USA
> 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler             USA Southern Califonia
> 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt           USA Florida
> 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> 05-Jan-33 66      David Wilkinson       Scotland, Hamilton
> 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)



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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:10:03
Message: <37E9A8FB.342EA0B1@tiac.net>
Although it might be nice if--instead of updating the survey
and generally goofing around in the newsgroup--I actually
render something... <grin>

-- 
Phil
...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 02:46:10
Message: <37E9CCB0.302DD334@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Ken wrote:
> 
> b-day     Computed Handle/ Name             Place
>           Age in
>           Years
> 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan (Brendan)
> 03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance Birch               Austrailia
> 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler
> 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst              Estonia
> 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich         Duisburg, Germany
> 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker                USA  (Indiana ?)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler        --->Stuttgart, Germany
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann            Bremerhaven, Germany
> 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute
> 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz               USA Southern California
> 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman              UK
> 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)        USA Anchorage, Alaska
> 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes                USA
> 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler                 USA Southern California
> 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt               USA Florida
> 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> 01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson           Scotland, Hamilton
> 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
> **        99.7278 Peter Popov               Bulgaria
> **        99.7278 TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> 
> Average age 31.2763
> 
> ** the last two were thrown out due to lack of vital statistics.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 05:24:18
Message: <37e9f1c2@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler <kev### [at] tapestrytucsonazus> wrote in message
news:37E98872.4F510215@tapestry.tucson.az.us...
> Ken wrote:
>
> > b-day     Computed Handle/ Name             Place
> >           Age in
> >           Years
> > 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan (Brendan)
> > 03-Nov-83 15.8861 Lance Birch               Austrailia

Australia


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 05:47:19
Message: <37E9F69C.FFA5BEE2@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:
> Australia

Whatever


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 23 Sep 1999 05:54:35
Message: <37e9f8db@news.povray.org>
****** Please Read: ******
Question.... is it birthplace or is it home place as of now?  Well,
I'm very near again to my place of birth so I'll put that anyway.
What do a few miles/kilometers matter.

Phil Clute <pcl### [at] tiacnet> wrote in message
news:37E9A707.E18F1D50@tiac.net...
> Slightly updated. Lance is older, David W. won't have to fight for
> those 5 month's and Ken is reunited with the Tyler family.
>
> "Mr. Art" wrote:
> >
> > Here you go Ken.
> > b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
> >           Age in
> >           Years
> > 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
> > 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> > 11-Mar-83 16      Lance Birch           Australia
> > 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> > 05-Feb-82 17      TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> > 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler         Tucson, Arizona, USA
> > 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> > 05-Mar-80 19      Peter Popov           Bulgaria
> > 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst          Estonia
> > 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich     Duisburg, Germany
> > 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> > 23-Sep-75 23.99   Jerome Berger         Levallois-Perret, France
> > 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> > 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> > 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
> > 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler         Germany
> > 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann         Bremerhaven, Germany
> > 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute             USA, New Hampshire
> > 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> > 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> > 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz            USA Southern California
> > 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> > 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman           UK
> > 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> > 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> > 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> > 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> > 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> > 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    USA Anchorage, Alaska
> > 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes            USA Decatur, Alabama
> > 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler             USA Southern Califonia
> > 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt           USA Florida
> > 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> > 05-Jan-33 66      David Wilkinson       Scotland, Hamilton
> > 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
>
>
>
> --
> Phil
> ...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 07:43:06
Message: <37EA12A9.AC7608BF@compuserve.com>
25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff                     USA Union, Michigan


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From: Mr  Art
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 08:06:54
Message: <37EA17B0.37E00073@gci.net>
With no data, Excel assumed 1900.

Bob Hughes wrote:

> Hmmm, apparently todays date.  Meaning these two were just born?
> Happy Birthday! Peter and Tony!
>
> Bob <snicker>
>
> Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote in message
> news:37E9524C.4C8C4B94@peak.edu.ee...
> > "Mr. Art" wrote:
> > >
> > >           99.7278 Peter Popov Bulgaria
> > >           99.7278 TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> >
> > A big jubilee coming, I see!
> >
> > Margus


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From: Mr  Art
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 08:12:18
Message: <37EA18F3.1177DF3@gci.net>
Another case of fat-finger disease.
On my keyboard the home row
is "a o e u i d h t n s" and the spellchecker
seems to like your name that way. Maybe
you are doomed.

Ken wrote:

> "Mr. Art" wrote:
> >
> > Here you go Ken.
>
> > 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tylor             Southern Califonia
>                            ^
> Thanks Art. By the way my name is spelled wrong... again :)
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 23 Sep 1999 08:16:12
Message: <37EA1A0B.84B60AD@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
For the Birthplace is Kiel and my current residence is in Stuttgart

Marc

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 09:04:35
Message: <37ea2563@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:41:08 -0700, Jerome M. BERGER wrote:
>23-Sep-75, ~9am 23.99 Jerome Berger Levallois-Perret, France

And a happy 24th to you, my friend, with wishes for many more.


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 09:31:17
Message: <37EA2BA2.5853068F@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
"Jerome M. BERGER" wrote:
> 
> 23-Sep-75, ~9am 23.99 Jerome Berger Levallois-Perret, France
> 

Best wishes from also! Happy Birthday Jerome!

Marc
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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 11:34:46
Message: <37ea4896@news.povray.org>
I could have said:

Emerica... ;)

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:37E9F69C.FFA5BEE2@pacbell.net...
> Lance Birch wrote:
> > Australia
>
> Whatever


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From: Jerome M  BERGER
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 12:59:15
Message: <37EA5C56.5C3A7C37@enst.fr>
Marc Schimmler wrote:
> 
> "Jerome M. BERGER" wrote:
> >
> > 23-Sep-75, ~9am 23.99 Jerome Berger Levallois-Perret, France
> >
> 
> Best wishes from also! Happy Birthday Jerome!
> 
> Marc
> --
> Marc Schimmler

	Thank you, both,

		Jerome
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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:28:05
Message: <37EA7216.5D95D8CF@tiac.net>
Bob wrote:
>Question.... is it birthplace or is it home place as of now?

I thought it was current residence.

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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 15:20:38
Message: <m33qNxZ6Y5bxS=Wp3ZaQqzHtIviq@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:02:52 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>
>
>David Wilkinson wrote:
>
>> >01-May-33 66.3917 David Wilkinson
>> correction;
>> 05 Jan 33 66 David Wilkinson  Hamilton Scotland
>
>At your age you are going to fight for that 5 months ? <g>
Sure am Ken. I'm a January baby and proud of it  :-)
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From: Mr  Art
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 20:08:27
Message: <37EAC0D2.5E896970@gci.net>
I knew something good would come of all this.
Happy birthday Jerome.
Mr. Art

Ron Parker wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:41:08 -0700, Jerome M. BERGER wrote:
> >23-Sep-75, ~9am 23.99 Jerome Berger Levallois-Perret, France
>
> And a happy 24th to you, my friend, with wishes for many more.


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From: Jerome M  BERGER
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 23 Sep 1999 20:14:54
Message: <37EAC272.D84675B9@enst.fr>
"Mr. Art" wrote:
> 
> I knew something good would come of all this.
> Happy birthday Jerome.
> Mr. Art
> 
	Thank you too,

		Jerome

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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 24 Sep 1999 00:18:32
Message: <37EAFC91.2C45@pacbell.net>
Might as well update my entery:
> >
> > Here you go Ken.
> > b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
> >           Age in
> >           Years
> > 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
> > 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> > 11-Mar-83 16      Lance Birch           Australia
> > 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> > 05-Feb-82 17      TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> > 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler         Tucson, Arizona, USA
> > 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> > 05-Mar-80 19      Peter Popov           Bulgaria
> > 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst          Estonia
> > 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich     Duisburg, Germany
> > 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> > 23-Sep-75 23.99   Jerome Berger         Levallois-Perret, France
> > 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> > 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> > 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
> > 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler         Germany
> > 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann         Bremerhaven, Germany
> > 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute             USA, New Hampshire
> > 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> > 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> > 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz            USA Southern California
> > 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> > 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman           UK
> > 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> > 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> > 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> > 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> > 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> > 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    USA Anchorage, Alaska
> > 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes            USA
> > 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler             USA Southern Califonia
> > 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt           USA Florida

>------------------------------------------
> > 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa    -----> USA Southern California
>------------------------------------------

> > 05-Jan-33 66      David Wilkinson       Scotland, Hamilton
> > 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)

Ken Matassa


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 24 Sep 1999 00:25:10
Message: <37EAFCA0.848F8134@pacbell.net>
Ken Matassa wrote:

> >------------------------------------------
> > > 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa    -----> USA Southern California
> >------------------------------------------

How southern ? San Diego, Orange, LA ?

Just curious :)

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From: Lutz Kretzschmar
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 24 Sep 1999 10:29:52
Message: <37eb6255.10735677@194.174.214.110>
Hi Phil Clute, you recently wrote in povray.general:

My updated entry:

15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar    Munich, Germany


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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 25 Sep 1999 22:59:53
Message: <37ED8D34.7924@pacbell.net>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Ken Matassa wrote:
> 
> > >------------------------------------------
> > > > 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa    -----> USA Southern California
> > >------------------------------------------
> 
> How southern ? San Diego, Orange, LA ?
> 
> Just curious :)
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html

Santa Ana Heights. You, Jon Cruz, and I are all within about 6, 7 miles
of each other.

Ken Matassa


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 25 Sep 1999 23:06:39
Message: <37ED8D65.1C2EC598@pacbell.net>
Ken Matassa wrote:

> Santa Ana Heights. You, Jon Cruz, and I are all within about 6, 7 miles
> of each other.
> 
> Ken Matassa

Ah ! The Central OC.So.Cal clan grows stronger :)

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 26 Sep 1999 00:30:50
Message: <37eda17a@news.povray.org>
Samuel Benge, whom I see over at AOL.com, is near all of you too.

Bob

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ken Matassa wrote:
>
> > Santa Ana Heights. You, Jon Cruz, and I are all within about 6, 7
miles
> > of each other.
> >
> > Ken Matassa
>
> Ah ! The Central OC.So.Cal clan grows stronger :)
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Charles
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:07:01
Message: <37EE611B.83556DEB@enter.net>
...
2-Apr-67 (32/indeterminable) - USA, Eastern PA
...

I got worried, with all those POV users springing up on the west 
coast, I wanted to provide some balance to the continent. 
(Excessive raytracing talent in one geographic area could have 
devestating ecological consequences, you realize. <g>)

Charles
-- 
http://www.enter.net/~cfusner
"...Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time,
 and I wandered far on roads that I will not tell..." 
                              -The Two Towers, JRR Tolkien

Ken wrote:
> 
> Ken Matassa wrote:
> 
> > Santa Ana Heights. You, Jon Cruz, and I are all within about 6, 7 miles
> > of each other.
> >
> > Ken Matassa
> 
> Ah ! The Central OC.So.Cal clan grows stronger :)
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 26 Sep 1999 17:31:06
Message: <37EE91AA.553F@pacbell.net>
Ken Tyler wrote:

> Ah ! The Central OC.So.Cal clan grows stronger :)

Yes. Today Orange County. Tomorro the world!

Ken Matassa


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From: Andrea Ryan
Subject: Re: Survey of ages(again)
Date: 26 Sep 1999 21:42:50
Message: <37EECADA.8D19F0BF@global2000.net>
Birthplace: Glens Falls, New York, USA at 9:02 AM

Living in Kingsbury, New York, USA

Brendan Ryan

Phil Clute wrote:

> Slightly updated. Lance is older, David W. won't have to fight for
> those 5 month's and Ken is reunited with the Tyler family.
>
> "Mr. Art" wrote:
> >
> > Here you go Ken.
> > b-day     Computed Handle/ Name        Place
> >           Age in
> >           Years
> > 26-Jun-84 15.2389 Andrea Ryan  (Brendan)
> > 26-Mar-83 16.4889 Wojtek Bauman
> > 11-Mar-83 16      Lance Birch           Australia
> > 25-Jul-82 17.1583 Chris Huff
> > 05-Feb-82 17      TonyB(Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> > 11-Jun-81 18.2806 Kevin Wampler         Tucson, Arizona, USA
> > 11-Mar-80 19.5306 Mark Wagner
> > 05-Mar-80 19      Peter Popov           Bulgaria
> > 29-Oct-78 20.8972 Margus Ramst          Estonia
> > 15-Oct-77 21.9361 Thorsten Froelich     Duisburg, Germany
> > 07-May-77 22.3750 Nick Portelli
> > 23-Sep-75 23.99   Jerome Berger         Levallois-Perret, France
> > 22-May-75 24.3333 Fabien Mosen
> > 22-Sep-74 25.0000 Saadat Saeed
> > 16-Sep-71 28.0167 Ron Parker
> > 21-Mar-71 28.5028 Marc Schimmler         Germany
> > 31-Mar-70 29.4778 Uwe Zimmermann         Bremerhaven, Germany
> > 11-Nov-69 29.8639 Phil Clute             USA, New Hampshire
> > 27-Jun-68 31.2361 Sven-Erik Andersen
> > 28-Oct-67 31.9000 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> > 14-Dec-66 32.7722 Jon A. Cruz            USA Southern California
> > 27-Oct-66 32.9028 John M. Dlugosz
> > 02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman           UK
> > 15-Sep-64 35.0194 Lutz Kretzschmar
> > 16-Jul-63 36.1833 PoD
> > 30-Jan-63 36.6444 ingo
> > 14-Jul-60 39.1889 Robert Chaffe
> > 11-Jan-60 39.6972 Bruce (Lamming)
> > 10-Nov-58 40.8667 Mr. Art(Art Flint)    USA Anchorage, Alaska
> > 31-Oct-58 40.8944 Bob Hughes            USA
> > 19-Apr-58 41.4250 Ken Tyler             USA Southern Califonia
> > 16-Nov-55 43.8500 Bill DeWitt           USA Florida
> > 11-Nov-46 52.8639 Ken Matassa
> > 05-Jan-33 66      David Wilkinson       Scotland, Hamilton
> > 28-Jul-31 68.1500 Sander (Alexander Stols)
>
> --
> Phil
> ...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.


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From: Cliff Bowman
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 14 Oct 1999 13:25:19
Message: <380601c0.347797577@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:29:32 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

[snip,snip,snip]
>02-Sep-65 34.0556 Cliff Bowman              UK

Watford, SE England

Well - that's just "more detail" than UK (which isn't huge, but a
buffer towalk across with my legs - even ignoring the puddles between
unconnected bits).

Oh yeah - and while I've a bit of catching up to do on the threads
(probably oodles - I haven't read all that I collected before my
vanishing act) I'm baaaack!

OBJuvPOV should be going up on my web site soon as an early beta
version (fairly big download alas).


Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 14 Oct 1999 13:33:18
Message: <380613DE.DCCAAD62@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Welcome back Cliff! 
I hope everything is in order now!

Marc


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From: Cliff Bowman
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 18 Oct 1999 13:03:53
Message: <380a5799.207555890@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:33:18 +0200, Marc Schimmler
<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:

>Welcome back Cliff! 
>I hope everything is in order now!
>
>Marc
>
Thanks Marc. It is - and although I'm even more short of time for
everything than I was before, life is just brilliant at the moment.
The bees are humming, the birds are singing, and for all I know the
flowers smell good (I've no detectable sense of smell).

Which makes a nice change :)


Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
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From: Ian Burgmyer
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 03:32:03
Message: <382fc503@news.povray.org>
Yippie, I'm on top :)

--
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Sander <san### [at] the-internet> wrote in message
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Ian Burgmyer 15-nov-84 15 (15 TODAY)
> Andrea Ryan  26-jun-84 15
> Lance Birch  3-nov-83 16
> Chris Huff  25-jul-82 17
> Kevin Wampler  11-jun-81 18
> Mark Wagner  11-mrt-80 19
> Margus Ramst  29-okt-78 21
> Thorsten Froelich 15-okt-77 22
> Ron Parker  16-sep-71 28
> Marc Schimmler  21-mrt-71 28
> Jon A. Cruz  14-dec-66 33
> John M. Dlugosz  27-okt-66 33
> PoD   16-jul-63 36
> ingo   30-jan-63 36
> Robert Chaffe  14-jul-60 39
> Mr. Art   11-okt-58 41
> Ken   19-apr-58 41
> Bill DeWitt  16-nov-55 44
> Sander      28-jul-31 68
>
> TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 37D2D63F.9F125099@panama.phoenix.net...
> > I just went through the images on Thomas van der Veen's page (Legos). I
> > am shocked to see that many pieces have been added that I do not
> > remeber. It has been a nice stroll down memory lane to see the pieces on
> > display. I wish I hadn't given my Legos to my nephew. He proceeded to
> > tear my masterpieces apart. I had a 12" robot that looked very cool. I
> > also had a space train of my own design. If only I could turn back
> > time...
> >
> > --
> > Anthony L. Bennett
> > http://welcome.to/TonyB
> >
> > Non nova, sed nove.
> >
>
>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 03:39:47
Message: <382FC694.7600B651@pacbell.net>
Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> 
> Yippie, I'm on top :)

Age wise that puts you at the bottom sonny :) Happy birthday !

Is your voice changing yet ?

Tried shaving off any pimples lately ?

Have you tried modelling pimples ?

Any pubes showing on that youthful young face yet ?

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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 03:48:52
Message: <382FC8F4.EF4E181D@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> >
> > Yippie, I'm on top :)
> 
> Age wise that puts you at the bottom sonny :) Happy birthday !
> 
> Is your voice changing yet ?
> 
> Tried shaving off any pimples lately ?
> 
> Have you tried modelling pimples ?
> 
> Any pubes showing on that youthful young face yet ?
> 


You know Ken, all this behaviour grows out in a few years. Remember
young Lance. At the beginning he whined every few post about a own
group for the youth. Hasn't done that lately ... Maybe he's just 
too old now ... :-P

Marc

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 04:21:15
Message: <382FD04C.3305474C@pacbell.net>
Marc Schimmler wrote:

> You know Ken, all this behaviour grows out in a few years.

Yes but the are almost insufferable until that time :)

> Remember young Lance. At the beginning he whined every few post about a own
> group for the youth. Hasn't done that lately ... Maybe he's just
> too old now ... :-P

Well we can only hope. I have noticed that he is becoming more of a
cynic and maybe that is a good sign :)

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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 11:21:39
Message: <MPG.129a512b7cca08b29896a7@news.povray.org>
'T was on Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:30:58 -0500,
that Ian Burgmyer said:
> Yippie, I'm on top :)

An that's a good thing?       ;-)


> Ian Burgmyer 15-nov-84 15 (15 TODAY)
> > Andrea Ryan  26-jun-84 15
> > Lance Birch  3-nov-83 16
> > Chris Huff  25-jul-82 17
> > Kevin Wampler  11-jun-81 18
> > Mark Wagner  11-mrt-80 19
> > Margus Ramst  29-okt-78 21
> > Thorsten Froelich 15-okt-77 22

Phoenix (Sietse de Ruiter) 27-mrt-73 26

> > Ron Parker  16-sep-71 28
> > Marc Schimmler  21-mrt-71 28
> > Jon A. Cruz  14-dec-66 33
> > John M. Dlugosz  27-okt-66 33
> > PoD   16-jul-63 36
> > ingo   30-jan-63 36
> > Robert Chaffe  14-jul-60 39
> > Mr. Art   11-okt-58 41
> > Ken   19-apr-58 41
> > Bill DeWitt  16-nov-55 44
> > Sander      28-jul-31 68

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From: Jerome M  BERGER
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 13:49:39
Message: <3830559B.CC5C668@enst.fr>
Happy birthday Ian!

		Jerome

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From: omniVERSE
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:13:07
Message: <38308573@news.povray.org>
Well so it is... So I'll say Happy Birthday Ian! too.

Bob

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> Happy birthday Ian!
>
> Jerome
>
> --
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> * Always listen to experts,   * Jérôme M. BERGER
> * they'll tell you what can't * mailto:ber### [at] inamecom
> * be done and why...          * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
> * Then do it.                 *
> *******************************


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From: Edward Coffey
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 15 Nov 1999 20:02:17
Message: <3830ad19@news.povray.org>
Edward Coffey - 1980/09/16  19yo


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From: ZEGER KNAEPEN
Subject: Re: Survey of ages
Date: 16 Nov 1999 16:58:29
Message: <3831D468.431926C2@student.kuleuven.ac.be>
Gonna keep this list.  
Happy birthday, Bill!
Seems like Jon's next: 14 dec...

BTW: Zeger Knaepen 19-dec-81 17 (Almost 18 :-)

ZK

> Ian Burgmyer 15-nov-84 15 (15 TODAY)
> > Andrea Ryan  26-jun-84 15
> > Lance Birch  3-nov-83 16
> > Chris Huff  25-jul-82 17
> > Kevin Wampler  11-jun-81 18
> > Mark Wagner  11-mrt-80 19
> > Margus Ramst  29-okt-78 21
> > Thorsten Froelich 15-okt-77 22
> > Ron Parker  16-sep-71 28
> > Marc Schimmler  21-mrt-71 28
> > Jon A. Cruz  14-dec-66 33
> > John M. Dlugosz  27-okt-66 33
> > PoD   16-jul-63 36
> > ingo   30-jan-63 36
> > Robert Chaffe  14-jul-60 39
> > Mr. Art   11-okt-58 41
> > Ken   19-apr-58 41
> > Bill DeWitt  16-nov-55 44
> > Sander      28-jul-31 68


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