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Hi all,
Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
CPU?
Rick
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Heck, get an electric cooler unit (12 Volt DC) and mount it in the case. A
bit expensive maybe but would be like airconditioning for your computer.
Btw, I haven't tried this, just sounds as feasible as anything else,
actually I may have even heard of it being done.
P.S. It would more than likely need to be other than the cooler chest type
thing (igloo KoolMate, Coleman, etc.) and more the CCD cooler as with
telescope video due to the amperage requirements. Also, I'm not to keen on
running water anywhere near my PC, one was in an inch of water once due to
a indoor line break and seems okay, I'm just not in any hurry to tempt
fate again.
Rick wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
> site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
> wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
> CPU?
>
> Rick
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I tried this once, but my goldfish didn't care for the case being in their
tank.
-Mike
Rick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
> site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
> wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
> CPU?
>
> Rick
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Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> Heck, get an electric cooler unit (12 Volt DC) and mount it in the case. A
> bit expensive maybe but would be like airconditioning for your computer.
> Btw, I haven't tried this, just sounds as feasible as anything else,
> actually I may have even heard of it being done.
There are peltier junction heat sinks available now and you are
right the little suckers draw quite a bit of current. They also
have this nasty habit of producing a cold surface on one side and
a hot surface on the other. You may be cooling the CPU but you are
also pumping a lot of heat into the computer enclosure itself
multiplying your heat dissipation problems.
Personaly and from experience with cooling industrial power supply
diodes and power transistors I would attack it with large amounts of
aluminium and a dedicated high velocity fan before I would go with
the liquid cooling option.
The majority of the little cooling fans they place on CPU's
are no more effective that a moth hired to flap it's wings over
the thing. There simply is not enough airflow to dissipate any
appreciable amount of heat. The type they use inside of the power
supply however is about the right size. If mounted with it's air
flow passing over a considerable amount of cooling surface, in
the form of a heat sink, it should easily keep up with your wildest
over clocking experiments.
Just be sure to use the proper methods of attaching a heat sink to
a CPU's surface to maximize it's performance. IF you can't get your
hands on thermaly conductive adhesive you should at least be able to
find some thermal heat sink grease for the job. If you can't find the
thermal grease at a local electronics parts store you can get it in
small tubes at an auto parts store. They sell it for treating the
mating surfaces of electronic ignition modules to the side of the
distributor housing.
> P.S. It would more than likely need to be other than the cooler chest type
> thing (igloo KoolMate, Coleman, etc.) and more the CCD cooler as with
> telescope video due to the amperage requirements. Also, I'm not to keen on
> running water anywhere near my PC, one was in an inch of water once due to
> a indoor line break and seems okay, I'm just not in any hurry to tempt
> fate again.
I agree with you on that one. While the mother board would probably
survive a couple assults like that hard drives, CD drives, DVD and Zip
dirves, and your power supplies are much less forgiving in that respect
and don't react kindly to high moisture bearing materials like water.
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On Sun, 16 May 1999 13:58:18 +0100, "Rick" <kit### [at] dial pipexcom>
wrote:
>Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
>site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
>wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
>CPU?
I've heard of these solutions but haven't had a chance to explore
how they are actually implemented, Rick.
I'd just as soon construct a box that directs cool, filtered air
into the computer case through ducting and hoses rather than risk the
hazard of electrical shock or fire resulting from an accident
involving water.
Do you really need the extra cooling?
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Try these links for the ultimate cooling methodology.
http://www.tomshardware.com/kryotech.html
http://www.kryotech.com/
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Rick wrote in message <373ec11b.1@news.povray.org>...
>Hi all,
>
>Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
>site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
>wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
>CPU?
>
>Rick
>
>
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Rick <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote:
: Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU
Why would I want to do that?
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I have had a look at the kryotech stuff, and there -40 is very mipressive,
but is only avaiable if you buy a whole ready mady system.
they do sell an empty case, but it only cools to roomtemp, and in quite a
few tests, has not proved anymore effective than sticking the biggest fan
you can find in.
Pelters are nice, but as someone pointed out have a habit of cooling your
CPU at the expense of heating ecerything else.
I am looking at building an external cooling unit and pumping antifreze
around the system, I have a few ideas, and hope to get the cpu temp to a few
deg C below 0.
there is a problem with condensation forming inside the case, but i think
this can be overcome with good insulation, pet. jelly, and silica Gel :)
as to why, why not, maybe i can get my cpu to OC an extra notch or 2, run it
24/7 with no fear of it turning into a blackened lump overnight with either
rendering, or running data from seti
Attached image from someone else's liquid coolded CPU project
Rick
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Rick <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in message
news:37402347.0@news.povray.org...
> I have had a look at the kryotech stuff, and there -40 is very mipressive,
> but is only avaiable if you buy a whole ready mady system.
>
Just a question and pardon me for not knowing -anything- about the
topic, but if you are going to spend $500+ for a cooling system, why don't
you just buy a faster chip?
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> Just a question and pardon me for not knowing -anything- about the
> topic, but if you are going to spend $500+ for a cooling system, why don't
> you just buy a faster chip?
Ah common Bill ! Quit being so da_n practicle for Pete's sake.
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote :
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> Ah common Bill ! Quit being so da_n practicle for Pete's sake.
>
Who the h_ck is Pete and what has -he- done for -me- lately? Huh!?!?
I guess I am not the only one sitting around the computer this fine
morning....
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Rick wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
> site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
> wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
> CPU?
>
> Rick
The information at the site below is one of the best online sources of
information on over clocking your CPU of any I have seen. It pretty much
supports my suggestions of going with a simple and effective large aluminum
heat sink and an adequate cooling fan to dissapate it's radiant heat. They
get extra points for agreeing with me on those points so get an even higher
recommendation from me
as the site of choice to visit for this type of
information.
The informtion is provided in a straight foreward approach, is
comprehensive in content, was written in a clear and refreashing
format that is easy to understand, and references to supporting
data have been provided so you can verify any questionable
statements made by the author of the discussion.
Go there. Read it. Pay attention to details. Become informed on the
subject. Don't place yourself in a position to suffer possibly dire
and expensive consequences. Go now before it is too late. What are
you still here for ? Go ! There ! Read it Now !
http://www.tomshardware.com/overclock.html
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cheers for the link ken, its looks one of the better OC sites i have seen in
a while.
the heatsink and fan combination while being very effective, will raise the
tempreture inside the case, and when running processor instesive
applications 24/7 the hs/fan will become less effective over time, as warm
air is blown across the hs.
The speed I am aiming for currently causes the CPU to post after a few
sceonds, even with a very good alu HS/FAN
have a look at
http://members.easyspace.com/coolk6/ - especially the cooling setups page
and
http://www.agaweb.com/coolcpu/
for a better idea about what i am looking at.
Rick
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Hey, let's not drag Popov into this...
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Bill DeWitt wrote in message <37403c4f.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote :
>>
>> Ah common Bill ! Quit being so da_n practicle for Pete's sake.
>>
>
> Who the h_ck is Pete and what has -he- done for -me- lately? Huh!?!?
>
> I guess I am not the only one sitting around the computer this fine
>morning....
>
>
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>Hey, let's not drag Popov into this...
PoPOV... is this some new patch for our beloved raytracer?
Rarius
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Philip Cowley wrote:
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> >Hey, let's not drag Popov into this...
>
> PoPOV... is this some new patch for our beloved raytracer?
>
> Rarius
Yeah! This is some kind of friendly DNS supported POV plugin. Makes good
pictures. :-)
Marc
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he he he ™
ICQ enabled too... ;-)
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Marc Schimmler wrote in message <3741772B.A7C05672@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>...
>Philip Cowley wrote:
>>
>> >Hey, let's not drag Popov into this...
>>
>> PoPOV... is this some new patch for our beloved raytracer?
>>
>> Rarius
>
>Yeah! This is some kind of friendly DNS supported POV plugin. Makes good
>pictures. :-)
>
>Marc
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On Tue, 18 May 1999 20:36:56 +1000, "Lance Birch"
<lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
>Hey, let's not drag Popov into this...
Lance, you're doing a d_rn good job at dragging me into this!
Me, a POV patch... man, am I flattered :)
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ICQ: 15002700
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Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
: Me, a POV patch... man, am I flattered :)
I think it's a very cool thing to have the word 'pov' in one's surname.
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I guess great many Russians, Bulgarians etc. enjoy that advantage :)
Margus
Nieminen Mika wrote in message <37429eb6.0@news.povray.org>...
>Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
>: Me, a POV patch... man, am I flattered :)
>
> I think it's a very cool thing to have the word 'pov' in one's surname.
>
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On Wed, 19 May 1999 22:12:57 +0300, "Margus Ramst"
<mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote:
>I guess great many Russians, Bulgarians etc. enjoy that advantage :)
>
>Margus
>
>Nieminen Mika wrote in message <37429eb6.0@news.povray.org>...
>> I think it's a very cool thing to have the word 'pov' in one's surname.
Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
"-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
"Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
Fun :)
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ICQ: 15002700
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Are you currently adopting? Say, a 40 year old or there abouts? Never mind
though if POV time doesn't actually increase...
Peter Popov wrote:
>
> Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
> genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
> "-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
> "Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
> priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
> hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
> noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
> literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
> POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
>
> Fun :)
>
> ---------
> Peter Popov
> ICQ: 15002700
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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
: Are you currently adopting? Say, a 40 year old or there abouts? Never mind
: though if POV time doesn't actually increase...
You have been raytracing too long when you seriously think about
changing your surname to have the word 'pov' in it.
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Peter Popov wrote in message <374415e2.1022633@news.povray.org>...
/.../
>"Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
>priest and hence the family name).
In most cases (when I know the language), I can guess the origin of a
surname. My own is an exception.
>The "po-" prefix, on the other
>hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
>noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
>literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
>POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
>
>Fun :)
>
AAArrrrGH!!! Grammar! Take it away, take it away!!!!
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On Thu, 20 May 1999 06:29:47 -0500, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
>Are you currently adopting? Say, a 40 year old or there abouts? Never mind
>though if POV time doesn't actually increase...
>
Sure thing! As soon as get my own room (sometime in mid summer).
You'll have to find me a wife, though, since law only allows married
couples to adopt.
I imagine myself telling some big kid in the neighbourhood:
"Leave my beer alone, will ya? See the big guy over there? It's my
son, buddy, now beat it before he sticks your head where sun never
shines."
He he he
Anyway, that'll be all from me in this waaaaay tooooo OT thread.
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I feel all left out here, western names are not so much fun to pull apart,
and if you do most of the time it isnt worth it, yeah names mave have a
meaning, but its often a pile of boll*cks, made up so someone could print a
"meaning of names" book, followed by a bunch of stereotypical rot
eg
Steve - Gay Hairdresser
the names may once have had a real meaning, as yours does, but in this
society of hallmark holidays, they have virtually no relevence to the
person, there family or history.
making them essentially meaningless.
Rick
PS I appologise to all ppl called Steve reading this who are neither gay or
a hairdresser, but on the other hand, I know 3 ppl called Steve who are..
strange..
> Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
> genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
> "-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
> "Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
> priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
> hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
> noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
> literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
> POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
> Fun :)
>
> ---------
> Peter Popov
> ICQ: 15002700
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This thread here has got to be one of the most off the beaten path ones
I've seen. Must have been the OT in the subject line by the original
poster that did it. Watch out from now on people if you try a off topic
message post like this one was, you may get more than you bargained for.
Rick wrote:
>
> I feel all left out here, western names are not so much fun to pull apart,
> and if you do most of the time it isnt worth it, yeah names mave have a
> meaning, but its often a pile of boll*cks, made up so someone could print a
> "meaning of names" book, followed by a bunch of stereotypical rot
>
> eg
>
> Steve - Gay Hairdresser
>
> the names may once have had a real meaning, as yours does, but in this
> society of hallmark holidays, they have virtually no relevence to the
> person, there family or history.
>
> making them essentially meaningless.
>
> Rick
>
> PS I appologise to all ppl called Steve reading this who are neither gay or
> a hairdresser, but on the other hand, I know 3 ppl called Steve who are..
> strange..
>
> > Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
> > genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
> > "-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
> > "Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
> > priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
> > hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
> > noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
> > literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
> > POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
> > Fun :)
> >
> > ---------
> > Peter Popov
> > ICQ: 15002700
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OT rants are some of the best threads, they so quickly change from the
original OT to something totally different, and tend to go on forever! (and
no body ever changes the subject!, cool init!
BTW, anbody see starwars yet? is it really as good as ppl make out, or on
reflection were the critics partially right?
Rick
Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:37469B53.8BEC9298@aol.com...
> This thread here has got to be one of the most off the beaten path ones
> I've seen. Must have been the OT in the subject line by the original
> poster that did it. Watch out from now on people if you try a off topic
> message post like this one was, you may get more than you bargained for.
>
>
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > I feel all left out here, western names are not so much fun to pull
apart,
> > and if you do most of the time it isnt worth it, yeah names mave have a
> > meaning, but its often a pile of boll*cks, made up so someone could
print a
> > "meaning of names" book, followed by a bunch of stereotypical rot
> >
> > eg
> >
> > Steve - Gay Hairdresser
> >
> > the names may once have had a real meaning, as yours does, but in this
> > society of hallmark holidays, they have virtually no relevence to the
> > person, there family or history.
> >
> > making them essentially meaningless.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > PS I appologise to all ppl called Steve reading this who are neither gay
or
> > a hairdresser, but on the other hand, I know 3 ppl called Steve who
are..
> > strange..
> >
> > > Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
> > > genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
> > > "-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
> > > "Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
> > > priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
> > > hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
> > > noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
> > > literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
> > > POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
> > > Fun :)
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > Peter Popov
> > > ICQ: 15002700
>
> --
> omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
> mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
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If we didn't move around so much our names would still carry real
meaning. It's not uncommon for a family to move 50 miles from
their home for work purposes. This leads to the dispursion of
the original clans, and has produced the throw-away meaningless
society that we live in today.
My name's Steve, I'm not gay or a hairdresser, but most world
agree that I'm a bit weird.
Rick wrote:
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> I feel all left out here, western names are not so much fun to pull apart,
> and if you do most of the time it isnt worth it, yeah names mave have a
> meaning, but its often a pile of boll*cks, made up so someone could print a
> "meaning of names" book, followed by a bunch of stereotypical rot
>
> eg
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> Steve - Gay Hairdresser
>
> the names may once have had a real meaning, as yours does, but in this
> society of hallmark holidays, they have virtually no relevence to the
> person, there family or history.
>
> making them essentially meaningless.
>
> Rick
>
> PS I appologise to all ppl called Steve reading this who are neither gay or
> a hairdresser, but on the other hand, I know 3 ppl called Steve who are..
> strange..
>
> > Well, yeah, "-ov" is one of the endings for a masculine noun in the
> > genitive case (whatever is left if it anyway), like "-ev", "-ski",
> > "-in", "-ich" etc. seen in Slavic names. As I've explained before,
> > "Popov" literally means "of the priest's" (my grand-grand-dad was a
> > priest and hence the family name). The "po-" prefix, on the other
> > hand, indicates a comparative form of any adjective or adverb (or a
> > noun used as an adjective or adverb, for that matter), so "po-pov"
> > literally means "More POV", where POV acts as an adjective (POVving,
> > POVed, POVish, POVely, POVable etc.)
> > Fun :)
> >
> > ---------
> > Peter Popov
> > ICQ: 15002700
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Cheers
Steve
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Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
news:37774EEF.88B953F2@ndirect.co.uk...
> If we didn't move around so much our names would still carry real
> meaning. It's not uncommon for a family to move 50 miles from
> their home for work purposes. This leads to the dispursion of
> the original clans, and has produced the throw-away meaningless
> society that we live in today.
>
> My name's Steve, I'm not gay or a hairdresser, but most world
> agree that I'm a bit weird.
Glad to hear it, it would be getting a bit freaky if you were, isnt it great
how these off topic rants just seem to go on and on and on..
Rick
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The "Where are you?" thread in this NG got up to about 150 or so
messages, spawned a few questionair threads and websites along
with it.
Rick wrote:
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> Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
> news:37774EEF.88B953F2@ndirect.co.uk...
> > If we didn't move around so much our names would still carry real
> > meaning. It's not uncommon for a family to move 50 miles from
> > their home for work purposes. This leads to the dispursion of
> > the original clans, and has produced the throw-away meaningless
> > society that we live in today.
> >
> > My name's Steve, I'm not gay or a hairdresser, but most world
> > agree that I'm a bit weird.
>
> Glad to hear it, it would be getting a bit freaky if you were, isnt it great
> how these off topic rants just seem to go on and on and on..
>
> Rick
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Cheers
Steve
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Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
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> The "Where are you?" thread in this NG got up to about 150 or so
> messages, spawned a few questionair threads and websites along
> with it.
sounds like a challenge to me :)
Rick
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