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I've decided to tribute Gilles Tran for his astonishing work, by
starting a new competition: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition.
The Gilles Tran Raytracing and Originality award will be presented to
anyone who comes up with the most original tiny-story attached to the
most beutiful raytraced picture. If Gilles would agree, I'd like him to
choose the winner himself. Just to get things going, I entered my entry
(see povray.binaries.images) already.
And just in case anyone out there is wondering what is all this Gilles
Tran worshipping, I'd like to point out that an artist hardly ever gets
recognition for his work (believe me, I know, and not only because of
POV). Instead, usually, the work either goes unnoticed or if it makes
it, it becomes unappriciated for what it is. I know this, because I also
compose a little.
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This is great praise, and he is surely worth it.
As a below-average tracer(I can't compose a good scene, and finish it) I'm not
to concerend with the almost nonexistant praise on my images, but I know that
few artists get the praise they deserve for their great effort, therefore I've
taken to spread the envangelium of Gilles (Wheee) to people.
I'll think of a topic to work on. bbl :-)
Lewis wrote:
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> I've decided to tribute Gilles Tran for his astonishing work, by
> starting a new competition: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition.
> The Gilles Tran Raytracing and Originality award will be presented to
> anyone who comes up with the most original tiny-story attached to the
> most beutiful raytraced picture. If Gilles would agree, I'd like him to
> choose the winner himself. Just to get things going, I entered my entry
> (see povray.binaries.images) already.
>
> And just in case anyone out there is wondering what is all this Gilles
> Tran worshipping, I'd like to point out that an artist hardly ever gets
> recognition for his work (believe me, I know, and not only because of
> POV). Instead, usually, the work either goes unnoticed or if it makes
> it, it becomes unappriciated for what it is. I know this, because I also
> compose a little.
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhof se ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:19:59
Message: <371bac0f.0@news.povray.org>
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Lewis <ble### [at] netvisionnetil> wrote in message
news:371B8ACE.1BA3ABF1@netvision.net.il...
<snip>
>I know this, because I also compose a little.
A little what?
Andy
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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:41:35
Message: <371BB28F.99B13F82@tiac.net>
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<HTML>
Or how about the Golden Links Award
<BR>Given to anyone who can come up with a pov
<BR>related link that Ken doesn't already have in his
<BR>bookmarks.
<BR>:-)
<P>--
<BR>...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
<BR> </HTML>
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a few compositions (i don't know if that was a joke or what so I reply)
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No chance!
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Phil Clute wrote:
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> Or how about the Golden Links Award
> Given to anyone who can come up with a pov
> related link that Ken doesn't already have in his
> bookmarks.
> :-)
If it gets much larger I'm going to have to set it up as a data
base and install a search engine for it. Eventually it will probably
move to a ftp server with mirrors around the world but that is
something to consider for next year and not quite yet.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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As long as you believe, anything can happen.
Besides, I don't mind Uncle Ken taking over the world. He would probably
make law that the only thing allowed to be done at all is to raytrace or
surf his site so I wouldn't mind at all... ;)
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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:30:04
Message: <371BBDEB.EE8D1361@tiac.net>
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>He would probably
<BR>>make law that the only thing allowed to be done at all is to raytrace
or
<BR>>surf his site so I wouldn't mind at all... ;)
<P>I don't know....did you read his post in povray.images Nuke 'Em?
<BR>Scary stuff *laughing*
<P>--
<BR>...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
<BR> </HTML>
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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:46:11
Message: <371BC173.74B8CC77@tiac.net>
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Thanks for not putting banners on your web site.
<BR>Especially those geocites banners! Ya' gotta' hand it to
<BR>'em though, they're resilient. They're like Borg banners...
<BR>"We are geocites, you will be bannerised, resistence is futile."
<BR>--
<BR>...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
<BR> </HTML>
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From: Ben Paschke
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 19 Apr 1999 21:45:45
Message: <371BCE29.E8B5C4ED@jello.com>
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Have you even spoke to him about this ?
Maybe, just maybe he would like to keep his work sacred ...
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If Gilles would agree, I'd like him to
choose the winner himself. Just to get things going,
I want to read that like:
"unless Gilles comes attacking us, or asks us not to, we will go on."
Ben Paschke wrote:
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> Have you even spoke to him about this ?
> Maybe, just maybe he would like to keep his work sacred ...
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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> "unless Gilles comes attacking us, or asks us not to, we will go on."
Not exactly what I had in mind, but...sorta
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Whew, looks like I have real fans out there :D
Big thanks to everybody. I should hire some of you people as worldwide
sales managers, but you have a too bright future in 3D !
I wish I had Kenneth "Lynx" Tyler's talent for well-phrased answers, but
here are a few thoughts.
- AFAIK I'm not dead (wait a minute... checking... OK, I'm still alive), so
seeing my name in an "award" is kinda spooky (though flattering of course)
!
- Competitions in art or in anything related to feelings don't feel right
somehow, even if the challenge itself can be very exciting. I understand
(and appreciate) a "best-looking laser sabre competition" because it is
pure skill, dedication and good work, but originality depends too much on
what one calls "originality".
- I always had trouble judging artworks ; this is just me, I don't know how
to praise nicely, and I hate being critical, because it can always hurt
people. In fact, I really feel bad about this, because I know too well how
important it is when what you create gets some recognition (even in tiny
amounts), and constructive criticism is obviously very helpful.
- Now if anyone wants to write stories around his/her pictures, makes some
music, creates anything, good or not, and make a competition out of it or
not, don't worry, I'll be happy.
Keep on tracing !
Gilles
Lewis wrote:
> > "unless Gilles comes attacking us, or asks us not to, we will go on."
> Not exactly what I had in mind, but...sorta
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We have an answer, and a good one :-)
Anyway, I've been working on a pice like this for some time, and I've come a bit
too far to abbandon it.. *smiles*
But, competition is off.
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Announce: The Gilles Tran Raytracing Competition
Date: 20 Apr 1999 15:09:59
Message: <371cc2f7.0@news.povray.org>
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Lewis wrote in message <371BB84E.E2AC570B@netvision.net.il>...
[snip]
>Besides, I don't mind Uncle Ken taking over the world.
[snip]
So you don't mind being controlled by the anti-indentation police? ;-)
Johannes.
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Johannes Hubert wrote:
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> Lewis wrote in message <371BB84E.E2AC570B@netvision.net.il>...
> [snip]
> >Besides, I don't mind Uncle Ken taking over the world.
> [snip]
>
> So you don't mind being controlled by the anti-indentation police? ;-)
>
> Johannes.
For some reason the first thing I thought of when I read this was
of the musical score from the famed Pink Panther movies. I'm now
stuck sitting here mentaly humming to myself the tune with the words
indent, indent, indent,.... well you get the idea.
Thanks a heck of a lot for that little mind implant Johannes. Da_m
thing will probably be stuck in there for the rest of the day now !
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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> But, competition is off.
Well you're probably right.
However, I still think that this story-picture thing is a great idea, so
please people lets see some. It won't be as a competition tho.
I really would like to see some other people's ideas about this kind of
art.
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For some reason, the photorealistic nature of raytraced images make them
quite suited to narratives or poetry. You can see for instance some
collaborative haikus written by several people around Tsutomu Higo's povray
& photoshop work.
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~nj2t-hg/haiku/indexe.htm
Something like this could be done, with some people posting pictures and
other people (or the authors themselves) writing things "around" them,
stories, poems or even music.
Gilles
Lewis wrote:
> > But, competition is off.
> Well you're probably right.
>
> However, I still think that this story-picture thing is a great idea, so
> please people lets see some. It won't be as a competition tho.
> I really would like to see some other people's ideas about this kind of
> art.
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