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OK, the survey's over, the totals are in and the calculations have been
done!!!
There were 160 entries from January 6, 1999, 04:29:24 to Wednesday, April 7,
1999 at 04:31:37.
Here are the statistics:
Participant Stats:
Total Participants: 160
Males: 156
Females: 4
Males: 97.5%
Females: 2.5%
Age Stats:
Youngest Participant: 8.5
Oldest Participant: 66
Average Age (not medium): 27.757
Oldest Male: 66
Oldest Female: 40
Youngest Male: 8.5
Youngest Female: 17
User POV-Ray Usage Stats:
Less than 1 year: 12.5%
1-2 years: 12.5%
2-3 years: 12.5%
3-4 years: 12.5%
4-5 years: 11.875%
Greater than 5 years: 18.75%
Other Stats:
IRTC Participation: 30.625%
Upgraded to run POV faster: 38.75%
Use POV-Ray at work: 25.625%
Own Official CD-ROM(s): 23.75%
Use other raytracers: 32.5%
IMP member: 27.5%
Over 1 month rendering time on a trace: 11.875%
Released Custom 'Patch': 3.75%
Email address entered: 69.375%
Operating System Stats:
Multiple Operating Systems: 48.125%
The following are the number of people using each OS:
Win95: 79
Win98: 28
WinNT: 25
Linux: 9
Mac (PPC): 7
SunOS: 4
Win31: 2
OS/2: 2
FreeBSD: 1
Unix (or variant): 1
Mac (68K): 1
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO ENTERED!!! MAY POV-RAY LIVE FOREVER!!! WOO HOO!!!
And also welcome to our youngest POV-Member :)
Feel free to comment everyone!!!
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The time POV-Ray used percentages are interesting.
Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
I guess I missed entering some of these stats, can't remember if I
submitted something just once or a second time too; probably been a
couple months ago in any case.
And gee, what a bunch of Windows users we are. Wasn't DOS a viable
answer?
Windows 3.1?? I feel sorry for you 2, whom-ever you are. j/k!
I used Win3.1 quite prolificly myself once upon a time. That's how I got
to know DOS better :)
In a way the stats seem pretty well rounded out to me.
Lance Birch wrote:
>
> Participant Stats:
> Total Participants: 160
> Males: 156
> Females: 4
> Males: 97.5%
> Females: 2.5%
>
> Age Stats:
> Youngest Participant: 8.5
> Oldest Participant: 66
> Average Age (not medium): 27.757
> Oldest Male: 66
> Oldest Female: 40
> Youngest Male: 8.5
> Youngest Female: 17
>
> User POV-Ray Usage Stats:
> Less than 1 year: 12.5%
> 1-2 years: 12.5%
> 2-3 years: 12.5%
> 3-4 years: 12.5%
> 4-5 years: 11.875%
> Greater than 5 years: 18.75%
>
> Other Stats:
> IRTC Participation: 30.625%
> Upgraded to run POV faster: 38.75%
> Use POV-Ray at work: 25.625%
> Own Official CD-ROM(s): 23.75%
> Use other raytracers: 32.5%
> IMP member: 27.5%
> Over 1 month rendering time on a trace: 11.875%
> Released Custom 'Patch': 3.75%
> Email address entered: 69.375%
>
> Operating System Stats:
> Multiple Operating Systems: 48.125%
>
> The following are the number of people using each OS:
> Win95: 79
> Win98: 28
> WinNT: 25
> Linux: 9
> Mac (PPC): 7
> SunOS: 4
> Win31: 2
> OS/2: 2
> FreeBSD: 1
> Unix (or variant): 1
> Mac (68K): 1
>
> Lance.
>
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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:
: Linux: 9
: SunOS: 4
: FreeBSD: 1
: Unix (or variant): 1
I think that the last line should be better:
Other Unix variant: 1
Why? Because Linux, SunOS and FreeBSD are all unixes.
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Yeah, I know, I realised that after I sent it... (especially after a friend
on ICQ read through it and yelled at me ;-)
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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
> Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or, rather,
how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females in
the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
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Scott Hill wrote:
>
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
>
> I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or, rather,
> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
>
> It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females in
> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
>
If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.
Remco
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There are also a lot in graphic design from my experiance.
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Remco de Korte wrote in message <373A07BB.69177AFA@xs4all.nl>...
>Scott Hill wrote:
>>
>> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
>> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
>> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
>>
>> I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or,
rather,
>> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
>>
>> It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females
in
>> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
>> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
>>
>
>If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.
>
>Remco
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In colleges here, there's a majority of women in CG. I know a
few of them and I never seem to get their attention when I talk about
the groups that I read and all I learn here. They don't doubt it ;
they're just indifferent. We can spend hours drawing side by side but
they really aren't loners.
Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
just like that.
Lance Birch a écrit dans le message <373a52ad.0@news.povray.org>...
>There are also a lot in graphic design from my experiance.
>
>--
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>Remco de Korte wrote in message <373A07BB.69177AFA@xs4all.nl>...
>>Scott Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
>>> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
>>> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to
vary much.
>>>
>>> I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are,
or,
>rather,
>>> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
>>>
>>> It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few
females
>in
>>> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be
different - I
>>> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
>>>
>>
>>If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.
>>
>>Remco
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> Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
>women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
>of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
>just like that.
I haven't noticed many woman posting to thiese newsgroups,
maybe three or four. In my experience there are few women
involved in computers at all.
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There are tons of women using computers! :) They're all in the chat rooms
;)
Well, okay, not all of them... <G>
J/K girlies.
GrimDude
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Hmm, yeah... I think it's a shame really that the whole computer thing seems
to have some kind of stereotype of male users...
Nearly all the people I know however, be them male or female, use computers.
I think I only know a few people that don't really use them... then again, I
guess there is a difference between using a computer for graphix and using a
computer for games :-)
In all honesty however, I think that (and I'm going to make a generalisation
here, no need to attack me over this OK?) women seem to have greater
artistic ability than men (I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on
that anyway), and seem to be able to express themselves better. The
unfortunate thing about male computer users that are heavily into computers
is that a lot of the time when they go to make an image, they make it on
something Sci-Fi, like space stations and stuff (hey, not that I'm saying
there's anything wrong with space stations!!! ;-)
I wish there were more women involved with computers, because I think that a
lot more artistic work would be created that way.
Just my 2 cents :-)
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Gail Shaw wrote in message <373ab3e3.0@news.povray.org>...
>> Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
>>women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
>>of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
>>just like that.
>
>
>I haven't noticed many woman posting to thiese newsgroups,
>maybe three or four. In my experience there are few women
>involved in computers at all.
>
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LOL
No their not!!! Their just guys PRETENDING to be female!!! ;-)
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GrimDude wrote in message <373b33a0.0@news.povray.org>...
> There are tons of women using computers! :) They're all in the chat rooms
>;)
>
> Well, okay, not all of them... <G>
>
> J/K girlies.
>
>GrimDude
>vos### [at] arkansasnet
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Lance Birch schrieb:
> here, no need to attack me over this OK?) women seem to have greater
> artistic ability than men (I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on
Agreed
> that anyway), and seem to be able to express themselves better. The
^^^^^^^^^^
I'd guess that the can express *other* beings (things or humans)
better than men, but just *not themselves* (IMHO a consequence
of the education -- girls are still told to be nice and quiet and
to have no own wishes/needs, (which causes them to neglect their
own emotions (or even, in extreme cases, to be unable to feel
them)), boys the opposite). [The bad consequences of these two
educations are IMHO high criminality by men and lots of
bulimia/depressions etc. by women.]
In order to express something beyond oneself, this something has
to be present, which is why men (who are trivially present to
themselves) like to hack on ASCII consoles (thereby expressing
themselves), whilst women prefer to communicate with people who
are significantly closer to them than 255 TCP/IP hops.
Ralf
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> girls are still told to be nice and quiet and
Not around here :-)
Believe me on that one...
(That's a good thing too)
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Precisely, in what quadrant of the past millenium do you live? [thinking
1902] ;)
GrimDude
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Loads of girls use paint packages and produce artistic looking
web sites but for some reason don't seem to be interested in
raytracing.
A gril where I worked about a year ago was a really good artist,
she used printers, scanners, paintpackages and produced some
stunning work, but when I told her about ray tracing she wasn't
interested.
Ken started a similar thread to this quite some time ago about
the same time as the "Where are you thread?".
GrimDude wrote:
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> There are tons of women using computers! :) They're all in the chat rooms
> ;)
>
> Well, okay, not all of them... <G>
>
> J/K girlies.
>
> GrimDude
> vos### [at] arkansasnet
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Yes, I know what you mean. It seems (as a generalisation here), that most
female graphic artists do 2D work more than 3D work. I know of several
female graphic artists and designers that do amazing 2D work, but aren't
really interested in 3D.
I think I heard something about some difference in the way males visualise
3D objects compared to females... but I can't remember what the difference
was or the technical side to it...
+ACo-sigh+ACo- memory alloc error +ADs--)
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Steve wrote in message +ADw-37763F2B.1B11F906+AEA-ndirect.co.uk+AD4-...
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+AD4-stunning work, but when I told her about ray tracing she wasn't
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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: POV-Survey Statistics!!!
Date: 27 Jun 1999 12:08:09
Message: <37764c69@news.povray.org>
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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
news:377643ed@news.povray.org...
> I think I heard something about some difference in the way males visualise
> 3D objects compared to females... but I can't remember what the difference
> was or the technical side to it...
It's true! I think my '3D object' is a fine example of such things, but my
girlfriend says I'm mistaken! ;-)
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he he he™
Luckily my g/f is 3D minded as well... (WOOHOO!!!®)
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Andrew Cocker wrote in message <37764c69@news.povray.org>...
>
>Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
>news:377643ed@news.povray.org...
>> I think I heard something about some difference in the way males
visualise
>> 3D objects compared to females... but I can't remember what the
difference
>> was or the technical side to it...
>
>
>It's true! I think my '3D object' is a fine example of such things, but my
>girlfriend says I'm mistaken! ;-)
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On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:11:39 +0100, Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote:
>Loads of girls use paint packages and produce artistic looking
>web sites but for some reason don't seem to be interested in
>raytracing.
>
>A gril where I worked about a year ago was a really good artist,
>she used printers, scanners, paintpackages and produced some
>stunning work, but when I told her about ray tracing she wasn't
>interested.
I once knew a girl that made really good pictures with the Win 3.11
paintbrush in 16 colors. The first time I saw one of her
sunset-over-the-sea pics I thought it was a really beautiful photo and
asked if she could switch to 256 colors so that the dithering wouldn't
hurt the picture so badly. Imagine my amazement when she told me that
she had actually drawn the thing! My disbelief must have shown on my
face, too, because she showed me some in-progress pic and how she
worked on it with. It's a real pity she couldn't afford better
equipment or else she could have been reading this too :)
Peter Popov
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Now that sounds like a true definition of an artist to me. Ability to make good with
what one has to work with.
Peter Popov wrote:
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> I once knew a girl that made really good pictures with the Win 3.11
> paintbrush in 16 colors. The first time I saw one of her
> sunset-over-the-sea pics I thought it was a really beautiful photo and
> asked if she could switch to 256 colors so that the dithering wouldn't
> hurt the picture so badly. Imagine my amazement when she told me that
> she had actually drawn the thing!
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I used to love watching "Paint Along With Nancy", she used to
produce some really amazing scenes and didn't use a paint brush,
just palette knives. And she always had a piece of toilet paper
in her hand.
Bob wrote:
>
> Now that sounds like a true definition of an artist to me. Ability to make good with
> what one has to work with.
>
> Peter Popov wrote:
> >
> > I once knew a girl that made really good pictures with the Win 3.11
> > paintbrush in 16 colors. The first time I saw one of her
> > sunset-over-the-sea pics I thought it was a really beautiful photo and
> > asked if she could switch to 256 colors so that the dithering wouldn't
> > hurt the picture so badly. Imagine my amazement when she told me that
> > she had actually drawn the thing!
>
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