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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:19:03
Message: <36c9fd58.45813062@news.povray.org>
"Andrew Cocker" <and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:

>Now isn't that better? There's a couple of names missing from the
>list..Bob Hughes, Twyst, nd what has happened to Lance Birch?

Can't say, but maybe he got flooded out ?

[He lives in Gympie, Australia, which just experienced its worst
floods in 100 years ...]


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:35:29
Message: <36ca00c1.0@news.povray.org>
Well, with a name like that (Gympie) they probably had real trouble since no
one could run out of the way of the water ...  :)

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povray.org admin team wrote in message
<36c9fd58.45813062@news.povray.org>...
>"Andrew Cocker" <and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>>Now isn't that better? There's a couple of names missing from the
>>list..Bob Hughes, Twyst, nd what has happened to Lance Birch?
>
>Can't say, but maybe he got flooded out ?
>
>[He lives in Gympie, Australia, which just experienced its worst
>floods in 100 years ...]
>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 19:45:10
Message: <36CA10B5.FA348E86@pacbell.net>
Mark Palmquist wrote:
> 
> Damn, Ken I was off by a few miles. Tustin, is the El Toro air base still there?  I
thought it
> was closing down a few years ago.  Saw the Blue Angles there in '93.

Tustin is actualy about 10 miles north of the El Tore marine base.
In Tustin itself is the Marine Air Corps helicopter division stationed
where the old WW II blimp hagers are. Both the Tustin Base and El Toro
are slated for closure very soon and local communities are scrambling
around trying to think up ways to capitolize on all of that valuable
real estate that is going to be released into their custody. There is
a very large contingent of people that would like to turn the El Toro
site into a new international airport to help relieve traffic at John
Wayne and Los Angeleus International but that is still down the road
a few years. The military has been dumping jet fuels and who knows
what else into the soil around there for over 50 years now and it has
been elevated to a superfund toxic cleanup site. I see a couple of
years at least to take care of soil remediation and detoxification
testing for all of the downstream water supplies and aquafiers.

Anyway this is about as much off topic posting I care to be envolved in.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Bob and Kelly Crispen
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 22:12:29
Message: <36CA3325.6531542F@hiwaay.net>
Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where
> you're all from.

Decatur Alabama.  The Heart of Dixie.
--
Bob Crispen
cri### [at] hiwaaynet
"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 11/30/88


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 00:17:43
Message: <36CA2C6F.60F4DC43@geocities.com>
Although I am once again wearing a T-Shirt today ( Microsoft PBSG
International Complex Script), I was wearing my jacket on and off today.

;-)

Spider wrote:

> *growl*
> We had _MORE_ snow today...
> and some -10 C
>
> //Spider
>
> --
> #declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Doug n' Dinsdale
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 04:09:02
Message: <36CA892C.83BEBBDA@networx.net.au>
I'm from the land of Kangaroo's and koala's. More specificly Perth
Western Australia



> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 06:02:00
Message: <36caa1a8.0@news.povray.org>
AUSTRAAAAALIAAAAAA  ;-)

Just kidding, Queensland, Australia

--
Lance.


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 06:23:22
Message: <36CAA55C.E15CAA1C@bahnhof.se>
*sigh*
*snowball in general direction*
-- 
//Spider 
( spi### [at] bahnhofse ) [ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
#declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 07:09:15
Message: <36cab16b.0@news.povray.org>
Oh, *there* you are. Was wondering where you'd got to.

Andy Cocker

--------------------------
and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk

Lance Birch wrote in message <36caa1a8.0@news.povray.org>...
>AUSTRAAAAALIAAAAAA  ;-)
>
>Just kidding, Queensland, Australia
>
>--
>Lance.
>
>
>---
>For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
>The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone
>
>


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 07:28:58
Message: <36cab696.7330093@news.povray.org>
Doug n' Dinsdale <DnD### [at] networxnetau> wrote:

>I'm from the land of Kangaroo's and koala's. More specificly Perth
>Western Australia

I used to live at Glendalough years ago ...


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From: Roland Mas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 07:31:24
Message: <m3k8xh43fn.fsf@clodomir.rezel.enst.fr>
I'm Roland Mas.  I'm from the Southern part of France, although I
currently am in school in Paris.

  I have used POV-Ray since it was called DKB-Trace 2.12, from the
very 1.0 on my Atari ST to the very 3.0 on the
eight-Alpha-600-MHz-4-Go-RAM I had (well, I had access to it) during
my internship.  (Still waiting for the 3.1, by the way.)

  I do not use any modeller.  My brain is my favourite modeller.  I do
not indent my code, either.  Emacs does it for me.  Sometimes even
bash or Perl do it for me, but I do not see it because it is piped
directly to POV-Ray.

  Have fun...

Roland.
-- 
Roland Mas

Sauvez les castors, plantez des arbres.


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From: Matthew Bennett
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 07:58:18
Message: <36cabcea.0@news.povray.org>
Margus Ramst wrote in message <36c9869b.0@news.povray.org>...
>Heh, it seems impossible for the English to pronounce my last name. They
>just can't do it. Never.
>
>Margus


Wouldn't you just pronounce it ram-ss-t? Still, I can see why trying to say
the letters "mst" together at the end  would be a problem for some native
English speakers (me included ;)  Still - that's one of the advantages of
the net - you don't *have* to pronounce it :)


Matt


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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 08:33:02
Message: <MPG.1134e384f8163d6598968e@news.povray.org>
'T was on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:16:16 -0000,
that Matthew Bennett wrote:
> Wouldn't you just pronounce it ram-ss-t? Still, I can see why trying to say
> the letters "mst" together at the end  would be a problem for some native
> English speakers (me included ;)  Still - that's one of the advantages of
> the net - you don't *have* to pronounce it :)

I think that the 'mst' isn't the problem. It's the 'a'...

Phoenix

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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 09:20:03
Message: <36cad013.0@news.povray.org>
Phoenix schrieb in Nachricht ...
>'T was on Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:43:40 -0000,
>that Andrew Cocker wrote:
>> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where
you're all from.
>>
>> Andy Cocker
>>
>> York, England.
>
>Sietse de Ruiter, The Netherlands (Holland if you must).
>
>But since most people get serious tongue injuries trying to pronounce my
>real name, I go by the nick of Phoenix.

Really? I mean Rudy is simple enough, but here in Germany most people have
big problems understanding my last name at the telephone (to them it sounds
like Welltush) and even more to pronounce my name when they read it. So "De
Ruiter" could be more of a problem than Sietse. Only French speaking persons
would propably pronounce it well.

--
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 09:55:18
Message: <MPG.1134f6c563f5612c98968f@news.povray.org>
'T was on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:06:36 +0100,
that Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> Really? I mean Rudy is simple enough, but here in Germany most people have
> big problems understanding my last name at the telephone (to them it sounds
> like Welltush) and even more to pronounce my name when they read it. So "De
> Ruiter" could be more of a problem than Sietse. Only French speaking persons
> would propably pronounce it well.

Forget it. The French can't pronounce even one syllable of my name 
correctly. I always comes out as "Siesse duh Rútèr" (Dutch phonetics).

As for "De Ruiter"... Well, it's the 'ui' thing again, eh?

Phoenix

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From: Fabien Mosen
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:36:07
Message: <36CAFEC5.667AE552@compuserve.com>
Fabien Mosen, 23 years old, Liege, Belgium.

Pov-snobbery : I don't need any dirty modeller to win the IRTC, hehe !
(but I like highly specialised tools such as sPatch or SpilinEditor)

Fabien.


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:48:04
Message: <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:39:17 +0100, Fabien Mosen wrote:
>Pov-snobbery : I don't need any dirty modeller to win the IRTC, hehe !
>(but I like highly specialised tools such as sPatch or SpilinEditor)

sPatch?  Real POV snobs model their bicubics by hand! 

My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with 
176 patches and one with 200 patches, and an object made from a
lathe.  I didn't even use graph paper, let alone a modeler.  And
I had to bang rocks together to get the 1s and 0s, uphill both 
ways in blinding snow...  whoops, sorry, that'd be the geriatric
raytracing thread at the end of the hall.  I'll get my coat.


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From: Roland Mas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 13:00:51
Message: <m3pv7acmmp.fsf@clodomir.rezel.enst.fr>
I'm Roland Mas.  I'm from the Southern part of France, although I
currently am in school in Paris.

  I have used POV-Ray since it was called DKB-Trace 2.12, from the
very 1.0 on my Atari ST to the very 3.0 on the
eight-Alpha-600-MHz-4-Go-RAM I had (well, I had access to it) during
my internship.  (Still waiting for the 3.1, by the way.)

  I do not use any modeller.  My brain is my favourite modeller.  I do
not indent my code, either.  Emacs does it for me.  Sometimes even
bash or Perl do it for me, but I do not see it because it is piped
directly to POV-Ray.

  Have fun...

Roland.
-- 
Les francophones m'appellent Roland Mas,
English speakers call me Rowlannd' Mass,
Nihongode hanasu hitoha [Lolando Masu] to iimasu.
Choisissez ! Take your pick ! Erande kudasai !


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From: Roland Mas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 13:00:52
Message: <m3n22d43mc.fsf@clodomir.rezel.enst.fr>
I'm Roland Mas.  I'm from the Southern part of France, although I
currently am in school in Paris.

  I have used POV-Ray since it was called DKB-Trace 2.12, from the
very 1.0 on my Atari ST to the very 3.0 on the
eight-Alpha-600-MHz-4-Go-RAM I had (well, I had access to it) during
my internship.  (Still waiting for the 3.1, by the way.)

  I do not use any modeller.  My brain is my favourite modeller.  I do
not indent my code, either.  Emacs does it for me.  Sometimes even
Bash or Perl do it for me, but I do not see it because it is piped
directly to POV-Ray.

  Have fun...

Roland.
-- 
Les francophones m'appellent Roland Mas,
English speakers call me Rowlannd' Mass,
Nihongode hanasu hitoha [Lolando Masu] to iimasu.
Choisissez ! Take your pick ! Erande kudasai !


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From: Bruce Duncan
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 13:49:29
Message: <MPG.1133f895209b174d989681@news.povray.org>
I'm in Durbanville, South Africa (look somewhere on the south western 
part of a map of SA and you may be lucky and find it ;-p ).

I've been lurking here for quite some time, make the odd post now and 
then. I fiddle around with POV when I get some time (which is not often, 
unfortunately)

--
Bruce Duncan
dun### [at] intekomcoza
http://home.intekom.com/delirium



In article <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>, Andrew Cocker 
<and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote...
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk
> 
> 
>


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From: Alex McMurray
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:21:30
Message: <36CA9014.B101C92@melbpc.org.au>
Jon A. Cruz wrote:

> Should I mention that I was running around town in my T-Shirt today, despite it
being a
> little chilly for the time? Nahh, I'll just get the area more crowded.
> ;-)

This one's from Melbourne Australia,
A bit chilly to be running around in a T-shirt? try here, over the last two weeks we
have
had days in the mid to high 30's (celcius), and nights in the high 20's.

--
  ,-._|\  Alex McMurray
 /  Oz  \ ale### [at] melbpcorgau               Melbourne PC User Group.
 \_,--.x/Australia
       v


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:36:19
Message: <36cb1a33.0@news.povray.org>
Matthew Bennett wrote in message <36cabcea.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>Wouldn't you just pronounce it ram-ss-t? Still, I can see why trying to say
>the letters "mst" together at the end  would be a problem for some native
>English speakers (me included ;)  Still - that's one of the advantages of
>the net - you don't *have* to pronounce it :)
>
>Matt
>


I'm not entirely sure how you'd pronounce ram-ss-t...
Anyway, English speakers mainly have trouble with the "ram", since it's
pronounced quite differently in Estonian. As far as I know, only Germans get
it almost right.
Many Estonians have trouble spelling it right, too: it's not your typical
Estonian name. I believe it's of Livonian origin - although I doubt that
means anything to you :)
Ahh, enough off-topic rambling for one day.

Margus


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:36:21
Message: <36cb1a35.0@news.povray.org>
Ron Parker wrote in message <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with
>176 patches and one with 200 patches

Hand-coded 200+176 patches?! Please tell me you're joking! I tried to
hand-code a patch object once, but failed rather miserably. Beginning to
feel inferior here...

But really, my logic is that it's inefficient to hand-code bicubics (and
triangle meshes), and I feel no shame using sPatch and mesh editors. So
consider me a man of low morals.

Margus


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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:37:08
Message: <36CB1A90.59769912@fv.aetec.ee>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk

Hello,

another person (beside M. Ramst) from Tallinn, Estonia.
Vahur Krouverk


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:55:51
Message: <36cb1ec7.0@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:32:07 +0200, Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote:
>
>Ron Parker wrote in message <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>...
>>
>>My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with
>>176 patches and one with 200 patches
>
>Hand-coded 200+176 patches?! Please tell me you're joking! I tried to
>hand-code a patch object once, but failed rather miserably. Beginning to
>feel inferior here...

Partly joking.  They're generated and manipulated by a clever series
of loops and equations, but there is still a lot of hand-tuning and
so on involved, plus the need to have a feel for how the control grid
affects a patch, and the need to correlate the grids of adjacent 
patches to avoid creases.  The object with 176 patches actually
only has 4 types of patches, but there are multiple instances of
each type.  The 200-patch object has four different types of patches
in terms of what they do, but their locations are somewhat random
so the crease-avoidance factor comes into play.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:55:55
Message: <36CB1E67.2FBCBA1B@pacbell.net>
Margus Ramst wrote:
> 
> Ron Parker wrote in message <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>...
> >
> >My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with
> >176 patches and one with 200 patches
> 
> Hand-coded 200+176 patches?! Please tell me you're joking! I tried to
> hand-code a patch object once, but failed rather miserably. Beginning to
> feel inferior here...
> 
> But really, my logic is that it's inefficient to hand-code bicubics (and
> triangle meshes), and I feel no shame using sPatch and mesh editors. So
> consider me a man of low morals.
> 
> Margus

Besides it says quite clearly in the Pov docs that Patches are beyond
the capabilites of most users and they recommend using an external
program to generate them for you. If the Pov docs say it's ok to do it
with an external program, then it MUST be considered acceptable, even
to a dedicated Pov snob !!!

I have never seen in the Pov docs where it is recommended that you should
indent your sript on the other hand.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 14:57:59
Message: <36cb1f47.0@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:54:15 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>Besides it says quite clearly in the Pov docs that Patches are beyond
>the capabilites of most users and they recommend using an external
>program to generate them for you. If the Pov docs say it's ok to do it
>with an external program, then it MUST be considered acceptable, even
>to a dedicated Pov snob !!!

The truth, as I mentioned a moment ago, is that I do generate them
with a program.  It's just that the program is written in POV-script.


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 15:05:21
Message: <36cb2101.0@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:54:15 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>I have never seen in the Pov docs where it is recommended that you should
>indent your sript on the other hand.

Not recommended, perhaps, but from the Language Basics section...

    You may add blank lines, spaces or indentations as long as 
    you do not split any keywords or identifiers.

so it's okay to indent.  It won't hurt a bit.


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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:09:00
Message: <36cc2e37.39094916@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:43:40 -0000, "Andrew Cocker"
<and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:

>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.
>
Hi Andy,
As a fellow Yorkshireman turned Scot I salute you from Hamilton,
Scotland
I'm the geriatric of the group and like hand coding (indented).


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:47:09
Message: <36cb38dd.0@news.povray.org>
Vahur Krouverk wrote in message <36CB1A90.59769912@fv.aetec.ee>...
>another person (beside M. Ramst) from Tallinn, Estonia.


Closest neighbours thus far, I believe...

Margus


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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:47:30
Message: <36CB38FA.22A58E33@virginia.edu>
Hey, even I can't complain about the temperature.  I get up at 5:30 just
about every morning and often times am on the water by 6:15, but
recently whenever I get the the boathouse it is around 45F, very
doable... especially since we don't get each other wet much anymore.

Steve
(I have rowed in 12 degrees F that was an experience... Short sleeved
shirt and spandex shorts.  Not only an ugly picture, but pretty damned
cold)


Spider wrote:
> 
> *sigh*
> *snowball in general direction*
> --
> //Spider
> ( spi### [at] bahnhofse ) [ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> #declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:52:13
Message: <36CB3A15.32DA13AD@virginia.edu>
I'd like to indulge this thread with a little bit of source taken from
the POVRay Docs

  #include "colors.inc"
  camera {
    location <0, 0, -6>
    look_at <0, 0, 0>
  }
  light_source { <-20, 30, -100> color White }
  light_source { <10, 30, -10> color White }
  light_source { <0, 30, 10> color White }
  #declare PLAIN_TEXTURE =
    // red/white check
    texture {
      pigment {
        checker
        color rgb<1.000, 0.000, 0.000>
        color rgb<1.000, 1.000, 1.000>
        scale <0.2500, 0.2500, 0.2500>
      }
    }
  // plain red/white check box
  box { <-1, -1, -1>, <1, 1, 1>
    texture {
      PLAIN_TEXTURE
    }
    translate  <-1.5, 1.2, 0>
  }

Notice the indentation?  I did not add it.  Ken, take this as implicit
recommendation to indent.  Perhaps we should ask the authors to add this
in.

Steve


Ken wrote:
> 
> Margus Ramst wrote:
> >
> > Ron Parker wrote in message <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>...
> > >
> > >My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with
> > >176 patches and one with 200 patches
> >
> > Hand-coded 200+176 patches?! Please tell me you're joking! I tried to
> > hand-code a patch object once, but failed rather miserably. Beginning to
> > feel inferior here...
> >
> > But really, my logic is that it's inefficient to hand-code bicubics (and
> > triangle meshes), and I feel no shame using sPatch and mesh editors. So
> > consider me a man of low morals.
> >
> > Margus
> 
> Besides it says quite clearly in the Pov docs that Patches are beyond
> the capabilites of most users and they recommend using an external
> program to generate them for you. If the Pov docs say it's ok to do it
> with an external program, then it MUST be considered acceptable, even
> to a dedicated Pov snob !!!
> 
> I have never seen in the Pov docs where it is recommended that you should
> indent your sript on the other hand.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 03:36:39
Message: <36CBD1E5.D7DFD797@geocities.com>
Ahh, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
I'm comparing my winter to his winter. You're comparing your summer to his winter.
Still, I
imagine that is not too rough either.

Alex McMurray wrote:

> Jon A. Cruz wrote:
>
> > Should I mention that I was running around town in my T-Shirt today, despite it
being a
> > little chilly for the time? Nahh, I'll just get the area more crowded.
> > ;-)
>
> This one's from Melbourne Australia,
> A bit chilly to be running around in a T-shirt? try here, over the last two weeks we
have
> had days in the mid to high 30's (celcius), and nights in the high 20's.
>
> --
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From: Markus Becker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 03:39:58
Message: <36CBD23D.DDEE2C92@zess.uni-siegen.de>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 

Markus Becker, from Germany. Hi!

M.
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 07:32:40
Message: <36CC07FE.652D5000@pacbell.net>
Jon A. Cruz wrote:
> 
> Ahh, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
> I'm comparing my winter to his winter. You're comparing your summer to his winter.
Still, I
> imagine that is not too rough either.

And Jon you failed to mention that where you live near the coast it
is usually cooler because of the onshore wind flow from the ocean.
Ten miles inland and it's suntan time in the middle of February.

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:42:34
Message: <36CC34CC.8FFECD0@aol.com>
That it is.


Bob and Kelly Crispen wrote:
> 
> Decatur Alabama.  The Heart of Dixie.
> --
> Bob Crispen
> cri### [at] hiwaaynet
> "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
> -- Vice President Dan Quayle, 11/30/88

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:48:46
Message: <36CC3640.133E0AF8@aol.com>
Pleasant surprise to see I was mentioned as one of the "missing". I'm
found now. Looks like Lance is too. Twysted is probably way to busy
these days, www.povray.org tending as you know.


Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Hello to you all,
> 
> Now isn't that better? There's a couple of names missing from the list..Bob Hughes,
Twyst,
> and what has happened to Lance Birch?
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:55:39
Message: <36CC37DD.8D4D1D7F@aol.com>
You know my name, you could know my age, and maybe where I live. In case
you don't though:

 Bob Hughes. Age 40. Somerville, Alabama, U.S.A. (born in Decatur, AL)

Hi Bob and Kelly.

P.S. I was re-doing my web space, still not through (recuring theme
there for all it seems).


Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
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From: portelli
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 12:42:58
Message: <36CC7D0F.4BD28AF9@pilot.msu.edu>
True but nothing beats Michigan weather.  Where else can you have it 60
degrees in the morning and by afternoon have the ground covered by snow?

Ken wrote:
> 
> Jon A. Cruz wrote:
> >
> > Ahh, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
> > I'm comparing my winter to his winter. You're comparing your summer to his winter.
Still, I
> > imagine that is not too rough either.
> 
> And Jon you failed to mention that where you live near the coast it
> is usually cooler because of the onshore wind flow from the ocean.
> Ten miles inland and it's suntan time in the middle of February.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 13:22:38
Message: <36cc5a6e.0@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:50:23 -0800, portelli <por### [at] pilotmsuedu> wrote:
>True but nothing beats Michigan weather.  Where else can you have it 60
>degrees in the morning and by afternoon have the ground covered by snow?

Northern Indiana?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 13:25:24
Message: <36CC5AAD.94AF604C@pacbell.net>
portelli wrote:
> 
> True but nothing beats Michigan weather.  Where else can you have it 60
> degrees in the morning and by afternoon have the ground covered by snow?
> 

A small town named Greeley in Colorado where I spent 4 years of
freezing in the winter and smoldering heat in the summer. Of
course while I was there I loved every minute of it.


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Where are you? Is somebody recording this?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 13:58:57
Message: <36cc62f1.0@news.povray.org>
Hi!

Is somebody recording this thread?

It really would be nice to see us all on a map as little red dots or
something (since pin-needles are so hard to transfer over the internet...)
to get an idea of the POV-user distribution all over the world...

Anybody out there with too much time on the hands???

Johannes.


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 14:23:37
Message: <36cc68b9.0@news.povray.org>
Phoenix schrieb in Nachricht ...
>'T was on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:06:36 +0100,
>that Rudy Velthuis wrote:
>> Really? I mean Rudy is simple enough, but here in Germany most people
have
>> big problems understanding my last name at the telephone (to them it
sounds
>> like Welltush) and even more to pronounce my name when they read it. So
"De
>> Ruiter" could be more of a problem than Sietse. Only French speaking
persons
>> would propably pronounce it well.
>
>Forget it. The French can't pronounce even one syllable of my name
>correctly. I always comes out as "Siesse duh Rútèr" (Dutch phonetics).
>
>As for "De Ruiter"... Well, it's the 'ui' thing again, eh?

For the French speaking, you'd propably have to write "Site-ce de
Roeuilteur" and "Rudi Velthoeuis", but then they would pronounce it more or
less right. The German and the English speakers simply CAN'T (Even if I
write "Welthöis", the Germans don't get it right. But they can pronounce
"Alm Öi" for Heidi's uncle). But then some Dutch can't even pronounce it
right ("een broodje èè met öö" <g>).

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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 14:23:39
Message: <36cc68bb.0@news.povray.org>
Margus Ramst schrieb in Nachricht <36cb1a33.0@news.povray.org>...

>Anyway, English speakers mainly have trouble with the "ram", since it's
>pronounced quite differently in Estonian. As far as I know, only Germans
get
>it almost right.

Don't forget us Dutch. We can pronounce almost everything right (this is my
serious opinion). We would pronounce Ramst like the Germans and propably
Scandinavians would. Margus Ramst "sounds" very Scandinavian to me, anyway.

--
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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 14:23:40
Message: <36cc68bc.0@news.povray.org>
Ron Parker schrieb in Nachricht <36cb00d4.0@news.povray.org>...
>On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:39:17 +0100, Fabien Mosen wrote:
>>Pov-snobbery : I don't need any dirty modeller to win the IRTC, hehe !
>>(but I like highly specialised tools such as sPatch or SpilinEditor)
>
>sPatch?  Real POV snobs model their bicubics by hand! 

Yep!

>My upcoming IRTC entry has two objects made of bicubics, one with 
>176 patches and one with 200 patches, and an object made from a
>lathe.  I didn't even use graph paper, let alone a modeler.

I use paper sketches, but not graph paper.

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From: Juan Diez Perez
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 18:04:44
Message: <36CC9D29.441CE985@phidani.be>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


Currently i'm in front of my PC. Usually, it stands in my house.
This one, is (up to now) in Bruxelles, Belgium.

That's it.


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you? Is somebody recording this?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 18:40:12
Message: <36CCA4C6.896679BA@aol.com>
I'm having a bit of trouble following all the places listed so far.
Latitude/longitude anyone?

86 degrees 52 minutes West longitude, 34 degrees 32 minutes North
latitude.

However as far as general areas, think I have a mental picture.


Johannes Hubert wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Is somebody recording this thread?
> 
> It really would be nice to see us all on a map as little red dots or
> something (since pin-needles are so hard to transfer over the internet...)
> to get an idea of the POV-user distribution all over the world...
> 
> Anybody out there with too much time on the hands???
> 
> Johannes.

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 19:36:50
Message: <36ccb222.0@news.povray.org>
I used to live in the terribly named "Gympie", a town in Queensland.  What
kind of a name for a town is that anyway?  It came from some stinging tree I
think...  How apt...  Now I live a little further up along the coast, where
the sun's always out and the water's always great!

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Where are you? - I'm HERE!!!
Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:02:34
Message: <36ccb82a.0@news.povray.org>
Well, actually I live higher up on the coast now.  I moved up 6 months ago
and I'm slowly fitting in.  Gympie was a pretty bad place to live, as the
name suggests, it hasn't really got too much going for it...  The floods
were highly over-rated actually.  I have some friends there still which I
keep in contact with through ICQ.  Floods in Gympie are a regular thing, so
no one was surprised... The media just got a hold of the idea that it was
the worst flood in a century (well, it was), and then said it was
devastating for the town, which it really wasn't.  My oldest brother who is
in London at the moment even said that he saw a short story on Gympie's
floods on Sky News!!!  Now I'm living on the coastline of Australia in the
Fraser Island area.  (HINT:  I can see Fraser Island from here).  The
sunsets are great here too.  Oh yeah, and sorry to everyone that I just
disappeared over the last week or two.  I'm back at school now so I don't
get much time to get on the net.  Especially with the homework I'm getting
from the subjects I'm doing!!!

At least I've finished Certificate III in Arts now for Digital Art, that
should take a little pressure off.  Now I've just got to contend with
English, Math B, Math C (they're the the hardest math subjects), Physics,
Information Processing and Technology (programing, artificial intelligence
etc) and Commercial Art and Design (full computer design for me, the other
people in my class have to slave away with Traditional Media, while I get to
use NT workstations ;-).

I'm lucky that the school I'm going to has huge computer orientation.  The
Art computers are great.  They have a network of over 250 computers in the
school with Proxy Internet access and full access to their Intranet (which I
must say needs a facelift).  I've just started another large project for
Commercial Art and Design.  My last project was a 30 seconder fully
generated in MAX.  I've just finished the rendering of the final 720x576 PAL
TV 25-FPS version for output to video through a Perception Drive and Speed
Razor.

My newest project however is a multimedia CD-ROM career guide called
Horizonz.  It's aimed at getting people of my age interested in what they're
actually going to do with the rest of their lives!!!  I've only just started
doing the interface design for it.  There will be 5 interfaces in the
program, all based around specific themes.  It's certainly going to be a
challenge, but of course it will be really fun!!!

The other thing that has kept me from the net the last few days is my Rio
MP3 player.  I've just got it and it's really cool (it's a portable MP3
player about the size of a cassette tape, actually, it's smaller).

So, in conclusion, sorry to everyone that I haven't been online much
lately!!!  Over the next few days I'll be in Brisbane too so I won't be on
(at least not in news groups).  I think I'll be online pretty much all day
today, I'm helping someone beta test their FTP server.

Gee, that was a pretty big message...

Lance (here to stay!!!)


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From: Psychomek
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 23:51:37
Message: <36CCED6E.6A95FD75@cyberhighway.net>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> That it is.
>
> Bob and Kelly Crispen wrote:
> >
> > Decatur Alabama.  The Heart of Dixie.
> > --
> > Bob Crispen
> > cri### [at] hiwaaynet
> > "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
> > -- Vice President Dan Quayle, 11/30/88
>
> --
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I thought Atlanta, Georgia was the heart of Dixie!


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