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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 15:45:28
Message: <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>
Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.

Andy Cocker

York, England.

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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 16:00:00
Message: <36C88B6C.E0AC18BE@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 

Physically: as my email address says: Stuttgart, Germany
Mentally:   somewhere else (maybe Povland, my next IRTC Submission ...)
:-)

Bye,
Marc
--
Marc Schimmler


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 16:35:42
Message: <36C892D8.9F2621F2@pacbell.net>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.

Hello Andy Cocker from York, England.


  First off, I am a Pov snob. I don't use no stinking modeling program
to create my scenes and I don't indent my scene files like them wacky,
propeller headed, Poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying, programmer types.

  So with that over with let me introduce myself...

  I am simply referred to around here as Ken and this suits me just fine.
I live on the west coast of North America, the state of California,
approximatly 50 miles (80.45km) south of HollyWood, approximatly 80 miles
(128.72km) north of the Mexico border, and just 10 minutes away from the
original Disneyland, home of Mickey Mouse. I'm also 10 minutes away from
some of the best beaches anywhere in the US and I live smack in the middle
of a high technology, electronics development, and manufacturing region.
It's not paridise but it sure ain't lovely downtown Bagdad either.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Abdul Ajis @ A J  @ man
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:05:03
Message: <36C89A34.A3BA67E5@netnet.com.sg>
Well, lurking here for the past 2 months from Singapore - South East Asia (my first
message here).

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Matthew Bennett
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:08:10
Message: <36c89aca.0@news.povray.org>
Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.


Hiya - I'm Matt from Guildford, England :)


>--------------------------
>and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


Why is it *everyone* (including me) now has a FreeServe account?
(ok, apart from the 15 megs web space, unlimited e-mail addresses, and being
the UK's first 100% free ISP with only the cost of a local call, and with 1
million subscribers since its September '98 launch  ;)

Have fun POVing,


Matt


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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:17:02
Message: <36C89CF9.735109E3@virginia.edu>
I am one of those propeller headed poindexter's Ken is talking about
(wasn't there that "Mr. Tyler" era a few weeks back?) who likes to
indent (apparently in a cockeyed fashion, though I must admit that
charge carries some weight...) but Ken let's me hang around because
sometimes I help him with his math, or create generally useless but neat
looking functions.  Oh...I'm currently at College going to the
University of Virginia which is located in Charlottesville, VA about 50
minutes from the capital Richmond, or 2 hours from my home in
Centreville (part of what is called NoVa or Northern Virginia).

Steve


Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:06:41
Message: <36C8A947.9E4EBE2F@geocities.com>
I'm somewhere in the ballpark of Ken.
Southern California, Orange County, Costa Mesa. A bit near John Wayne airport.
(A map turned up by a quick Yahoo search: http://www.sunrisejet.com/moremaps.html )

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Orrin
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:13:11
Message: <36c8aa04.950312@news.povray.org>
"Andrew Cocker" <and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:

>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>Andy Cocker
>York, England.

Good old New York!


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:18:40
Message: <36c8ab50.0@news.povray.org>
Northville, Michigan USA

--
Jim

Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
and provide scientific insights beyond compare!

Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html




Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.
>
>--------------------------
>and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk
>
>


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:20:50
Message: <36C8AA8A.72140A4A@bahnhof.se>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Andrew Cocker wrote:
> >
> > Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all
from.
> >
> > Andy Cocker
> >
> > York, England.
> 
> Hello Andy Cocker from York, England.
> 
>   First off, I am a Pov snob. I don't use no stinking modeling program
> to create my scenes and I don't indent my scene files like them wacky,
> propeller headed, Poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying, programmer types.
Whoa!
 
>   So with that over with let me introduce myself...
> 
>   I am simply referred to around here as Ken and this suits me just fine.
> I live on the west coast of North America, the state of California,
> approximatly 50 miles (80.45km) south of HollyWood, approximatly 80 miles
> (128.72km) north of the Mexico border, and just 10 minutes away from the
> original Disneyland, home of Mickey Mouse. I'm also 10 minutes away from
> some of the best beaches anywhere in the US and I live smack in the middle
> of a high technology, electronics development, and manufacturing region.
> It's not paridise but it sure ain't lovely downtown Bagdad either.
Far better tahn me :-)
//Spider


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:29:33
Message: <36C8AC94.81CC3C46@bahnhof.se>
Whoa, I see the soul of the newsgroup has answered(mr Tyler, ken, great
high lord...) so I'll just add in.

I'm currently in Helsingborg, Sweden. A very cold climate, (I'm freezing
now:-) and a very wet and windy one is characteristic for this town. I
dislike it(hate was to strong a word).
I'm basicly a coder, doing most of the langauages avaiable. I was
attracted to POV by the same reason, I could code 3D scenes in it, far
easier than doing the 3D gfx programming I had before. And, it was
interesting to use, I could tweak it really good. 
I've never liked any modeller, since they can't do what I want them to
do when I want to. Why this is, is because I don't get the time or
patience of learning any modeller good enough to become as skiled(?)
there as I am(?) in coding.

I'm a student in the university, Software engineering.

//Spider


Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 18:35:18
Message: <36C8AEE1.F59091B9@pacbell.net>
Jon A. Cruz wrote:
> 
> I'm somewhere in the ballpark of Ken.
> Southern California, Orange County, Costa Mesa. A bit near John Wayne airport.
> (A map turned up by a quick Yahoo search: http://www.sunrisejet.com/moremaps.html )

Howdy neigbor. Seems you are right next door. I'm in Tustin at the 5 - 55
freeway interchange. For you people that look at the map follow the arrow
point past the big 405 emblem up and to the right just a little bit and you
will see a town marked Tustin. The town is so small compared to the other
cities in the area I usualy don't even bother calling it by name because
most map makers ignore it's exsistance.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:57:16
Message: <36C8C5AF.9ABD8F2D@mailbag.com>
I'm in Madison, Wisconsin, USA, about 70 miles west of Milwaukee,
Wisconsin.  I'm originally from Mankato, Minnesota, about 70 miles
southwest if Minneapolis, Minnesota.

-Mark Gordon


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 22:12:49
Message: <36C8E221.C4958209@geocities.com>
Kyle
High School Student, age 15,  
Virginia Beach, Virginia



Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.
> 
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 22:46:50
Message: <36C8D579.FF8F4BF3@geocities.com>
Spider wrote:

> Whoa, I see the soul of the newsgroup has answered(mr Tyler, ken, great
> high lord...) so I'll just add in.
>
> I'm currently in Helsingborg, Sweden. A very cold climate, (I'm freezing
> now:-) and a very wet and windy one is characteristic for this town. I
> dislike it(hate was to strong a word).

Should I mention that I was running around town in my T-Shirt today, despite it being
a
little chilly for the time? Nahh, I'll just get the area more crowded.
;-)


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From: Nathan Kopp
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 22:54:31
Message: <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>
Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're just
down the freeway a bit.

I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).  But, I'm
getting ready to graduate from my school (Lawrence Technological University),
so I'll probably be going elsewhere soon.

-Nathan

Jim Kress wrote:
> 
> Northville, Michigan USA
>


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From: portelli
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:41:01
Message: <36C92297.C8D72D9A@pilot.msu.edu>
Hey not to far from me.  I currently reside in East Lansing attending
Michigan State University, becoming one of those wacky,
propeller headed, Poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying, programmer
types.
my permanent home id in Brighton though.

Nick Portelli
por### [at] pilotmsuedu

Jim Kress wrote:
> 
> Northville, Michigan USA
> 
> --
> Jim
> 
> Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
> It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
> and provide scientific insights beyond compare!
> 
> Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
> http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html
> 
> Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
> >Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
> all from.
> >
> >Andy Cocker
> >
> >York, England.
> >
> >--------------------------
> >and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk
> >
> >


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From: Lars W 
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 05:11:27
Message: <36C9449F.C52A0670@snafu.de>
Hi

I am Lars Wolter

Far away from most of you, in Berlin Germany.

And my Homepage is here too :-)

www.snafu.de/~lars.wolter

Andrew Cocker schrieb:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 05:48:04
Message: <36c94ce4.0@news.povray.org>
I'm in Tampere, Finland, studying at Tampere University of Technology.

-- 
main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
*_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Thomas Willhalm
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:06:28
Message: <qqm90dypkff.fsf@goldach.fmi.uni-konstanz.de>
"Andrew Cocker" <and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> writes:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where 
> you're all from.

Constance, Germany. It's located next to the frontier of Switzerland.
(The frontier is more or less in town.) To the east, there is a lovely 
lake, where you can do some iceskating at the moment. The town itself
has some quite old buildings, because it hasn't been bombed in the last
world war, since it's too close to Switzerland.

Thomas

-- 
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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:12:30
Message: <36c96ebe.0@news.povray.org>
Andrew Cocker schrieb in Nachricht <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.

Hi Andy

Originally I'm from Eindhoven, Netherlands, but live (and work) in Gladbeck,
Germany since 1985. Not as nice as Ken's place, but I can live with it. I
don't post a lot of images here (my current PC is way too slow to do
everything I want - but just wait a few weeks), but I'm very interested in
POV-Ray and am trying to write some utilities for it.

BTW: I'm a strong believer of indenting <g>.
--
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:25:21
Message: <36c971c1.0@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:43:40 -0000, Andrew Cocker wrote:
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.

I'm Ron, 27 and a poindexter programmer type who's anal-indentive.
Or something like that.

I'm from Fort Wayne, Indiana, home of the fictional Frank Burns 
from M*A*S*H and of the very real (but sadly deceased) Philo T. 
Farnsworth, father of television.


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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:32:52
Message: <MPG.113391f2693ae2f498968a@news.povray.org>
'T was on Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:43:40 -0000,
that Andrew Cocker wrote:
> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
> 
> Andy Cocker
> 
> York, England.

Sietse de Ruiter, The Netherlands (Holland if you must).

But since most people get serious tongue injuries trying to pronounce my 
real name, I go by the nick of Phoenix.

Phoenix

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:27:54
Message: <36c9806a.0@news.povray.org>
I live in Tallinn, Estonia. It's kinda small, but I like it.

Margus

Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.
>
>--------------------------
>and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk
>
>


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:54:19
Message: <36c9869b.0@news.povray.org>
Heh, it seems impossible for the English to pronounce my last name. They
just can't do it. Never.

Margus

Phoenix wrote in message ...
>
>Sietse de Ruiter, The Netherlands (Holland if you must).
>
>But since most people get serious tongue injuries trying to pronounce my
>real name, I go by the nick of Phoenix.
>
>Phoenix
>
>--
>eag### [at] telekabelnl                       http://users.telekabel.nl/eagle
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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:24:35
Message: <36C98DDA.CB0F34D3@virginia.edu>
Well, so far that makes you the only one even close to me
geograpically...Of course it is all relative since it would probably
take a couple/three hours to get to VB from Charlottesville, which is
much further than Ken and Jon for instance...Wonder what it is about
Michigan that seems to attract the PoVers... I thought Virginia was for
Povers... then again, maybe I got the slogan mixed up somewhere.

Steve
(For those of you who don't know, which I assume is almost anyone
outside of Virginia, the state motto is "Virginia is for Lovers")

Kyle wrote:
> 
> Kyle
> High School Student, age 15,
> Virginia Beach, Virginia
> 
> Andrew Cocker wrote:
> >
> > Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all
from.
> >
> > Andy Cocker
> >
> > York, England.
> >
> > --------------------------
> > and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:24:54
Message: <36C98ECD.86A974D0@spiritone.com>
I'm in Portland, Oregon. I've noticed the phrase "POV Snob" in this thread... I don't
consider myself a snob, I just like the challenge of doing everything in native POV
Code. I like the challenge so much that when I flew to southern California this past
weeked I worked out the pattern of the airline seat in front of me in POV-Ray.

My work with POVRay is not the best, but I think I can explain things fairly well.

My home page is usually at http://www.spiritone.com/~english and should be back up
soon.
I started to apply for a new job as a web designer, and ym personal homepage started
parsing in very strange ways so I took it down for yet another redesign.

Cheers,
Josh English
eng### [at] spiritonecom

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Phoenix
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:49:11
Message: <MPG.1133b1e6334465d498968d@news.povray.org>
'T was on Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:54:10 +0200,
that Margus Ramst wrote:
> Heh, it seems impossible for the English to pronounce my last name. They
> just can't do it. Never.

Yeah, but at least your *first* name is easy for 'em. My name is sheer 
hell.

Most foreigners come up with the ever so funny shitse, because they can't 
get the hang of pronouncing a word unless it's in their native tongue...

Correct sound of my name would be something in the lines of 'Seetser' 
(silent 'R', like in 'er...').

Phoenix

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From: PoD
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 11:42:15
Message: <36C99FE9.7A05@merlin.net.au>
Hi, I'm Phil Carrig and I'm not from Adelaide, South Australia (I'm
still here).
I indent my code so I know what the hell is going on.

Cheers, PoD.


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:17:28
Message: <36c9a828.0@news.povray.org>
Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
>Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
just
>down the freeway a bit.
>
>I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).
[snip]

I love those american town names!

"Northville" being "just down the freeway a bit" from "Southfield"! :-)

How far to "Eastvillage" and "Westhome"?

Johannes.


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:26:51
Message: <36c9aa5b.0@news.povray.org>
Im living in Göteborg, Sweden (for those of you who didn't get the non 7-bit
ASCII characters that would be "Gothenburg" ;-)
But actually I am from Germany where I have lived in Erlangen, Bavaria since
'88 and the years before that near Köln (damn, another non 7-bit char ;-] -
read it as: "Cologne"...)

Anyway, I have *much* to little time for my POV hobby, but if I do, I am a
modeler-snob ;c) being addicted to Moray since good old DOS days. But I know
my way around the POV-Code and, being a professional programmer, I indent
everything: Code, comments, mouse, keyboard, monitor, toaster etc...

Johannes.



Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.
>
>--------------------------
>and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk
>
>


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From: portelli
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:30:57
Message: <36C9D717.AE393B76@pilot.msu.edu>
Actually it is more west of Southfield I think.

Johannes Hubert wrote:
> 
> Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
> >Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
> just
> >down the freeway a bit.
> >
> >I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).
> [snip]
> 
> I love those american town names!
> 
> "Northville" being "just down the freeway a bit" from "Southfield"! :-)
> 
> How far to "Eastvillage" and "Westhome"?
> 
> Johannes.


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:39:05
Message: <36c9ad39.0@news.povray.org>
portelli wrote in message <36C9D717.AE393B76@pilot.msu.edu>...
>Actually it is more west of Southfield I think.


How's that? Did the cartographers screw up?

Joh.


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 12:51:38
Message: <36c9b02a.0@news.povray.org>
Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
all from.
>
>Andy Cocker
>
>York, England.


Hi

I live just outside Stoke on Trent, in a little village called Cheddleton.

Almost neighbours!!!

Mick


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:42:59
Message: <36c9bc33.0@news.povray.org>
Howdie neighbour! ;-)

Andy Cocker

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Mick Hazelgrove wrote in message <36c9b02a.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>Andrew Cocker wrote in message <36c88768.0@news.povray.org>...
>>Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're
>all from.
>>
>>Andy Cocker
>>
>>York, England.
>
>
>Hi
>
>I live just outside Stoke on Trent, in a little village called Cheddleton.
>
>Almost neighbours!!!
>
>Mick
>
>


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:43:00
Message: <36c9bc34.0@news.povray.org>
Hello to you all,

Now isn't that better? There's a couple of names missing from the list..Bob Hughes,
Twyst,
and what has happened to Lance Birch?

BTW, Ken has inspired me, and although putting everything on one line is taking things
a
little too far, I have stopped indenting. I just add comments ie

sphere { <0,0,0>,1
texture {
pigment { rgb 1 }
finish {Shiny}
normal {bumps 1}
} // end texture
} // end sphere

I find that easier to read. Also, I hand code only, but I'm not a programmer ( wish I
was.
It'd make understanding macros and arrays easier )

Goodbye all,

Andy Cocker

--------------------------
and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Jerry Anning
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:51:27
Message: <36c9bc6b.9515573@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:16:33 +0100, "Johannes Hubert"
<jhu### [at] algonetse> wrote:

>Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
>>Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
>just
>>down the freeway a bit.
>>
>>I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).
>[snip]
>
>I love those american town names!
>
>"Northville" being "just down the freeway a bit" from "Southfield"! :-)
>
>How far to "Eastvillage" and "Westhome"?

Add another Michigander.  Dearborn Heights, Michigan.  Maybe we should
hold an International POV Conference here?  Incidentally, Northville
is west and somewhat south of Southfield, and it is also west of
Westland.  Geography is a bit odd in this area, anyway.  When we cross
the bridge to Windsor, Canada, we have to drive south!

Jerry Anning
clem "at" dhol "dot" com


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:09:27
Message: <36c9c267.0@news.povray.org>
Ingo Janssen,
Enschede, The Netherlands

--
Met dank aan de muze met het glazen oog.


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:12:33
Message: <36c9c321.0@news.povray.org>
Eastpointe is on the other side of Detroit (East from here, naturally).
Also Westland is southeast of Northville.

Should I continue or have you had enough?

--
Jim

Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
and provide scientific insights beyond compare!

Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html




Johannes Hubert wrote in message <36c9a828.0@news.povray.org>...
>Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
>>Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
>just
>>down the freeway a bit.
>>
>>I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).
>[snip]
>
>I love those american town names!
>
>"Northville" being "just down the freeway a bit" from "Southfield"! :-)
>
>How far to "Eastvillage" and "Westhome"?
>
>Johannes.
>
>
>


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:19:13
Message: <36c9c4b1.0@news.povray.org>
Lawrence Tech is a good school.  When I was at Ford I used to preferentially
hire people who came from Lawrence Tech (over people from U of M, MSU, etc).
Good luck!

--
Jim

Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
and provide scientific insights beyond compare!

Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html




Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
>Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
just
>down the freeway a bit.
>
>I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).  But, I'm
>getting ready to graduate from my school (Lawrence Technological
University),
>so I'll probably be going elsewhere soon.
>
>-Nathan
>
>Jim Kress wrote:
>>
>> Northville, Michigan USA
>>


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:42:48
Message: <36C9C8ED.5C647898@bahnhof.se>
*growl*
We had _MORE_ snow today...
and some -10 C 

//Spider

-- 
#declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:49:26
Message: <36C9CA7A.A072C5AB@bahnhof.se>
Andrew Cocker wrote:
> 
> Now isn't that better? There's a couple of names missing from the list..Bob Hughes,
Twyst,
> and what has happened to Lance Birch?
Well, It is nice.


 
> BTW, Ken has inspired me, and although putting everything on one line is taking
things a
> little too far, I have stopped indenting. I just add comments ie
Nooooo!!!
Don't let the evil anti indenter get you !!!
*Creating a indenter prog for POV soon....
*Creating an anti indenter for Ken as well. (kill all EOL signs except
the last, delete //markings until EOL)
(This last should be easy enogh. Anyone actually want it*) 
sphere { 
  <0,0,0>, 1
  texture {
    pigment { rgb 1 }
    finish {Shiny}
    normal {bumps 1}
  } // end texture
} // end sphere


//Spider
-- 
#declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 15:20:36
Message: <36C9D33E.641F148B@virginia.edu>
> #declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);
So what is this?? Life = the imaginary random version of the answer to
life the universe and everything?  So life is an imaginary unreachable
goal?

Steve


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 15:37:33
Message: <36C9D5C2.BC0AE89F@bahnhof.se>
Stephen Lavedas wrote:
> 
> > #declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);
> So what is this?? Life = the imaginary random version of the answer to
> life the universe and everything?  So life is an imaginary unreachable
> goal?
Yup... I still haven't found a place to download it. And POV hasn't done
it either.

So I just figured, taht with a true random generator(not a pseudo random
generator, as in POV), with the answer to it all as a seed, and then
returning an unexisting number, it would be prett ylikely to be life,
wouldn't it ?
I just have to render it... (haven't got any good results yet)

//Spider


-- 
#declare life = rand(seed(42))*sqrt(-1);


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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:56:35
Message: <36C9EAE1.6D736300@tiac.net>
<HTML>
I'm living in New Hampshire 45min north of Boston(depending how fast
<BR>you drive!).

<P>--
<BR>...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
<BR> </HTML>


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:10:52
Message: <36c9ecec.0@news.povray.org>
Greg from Poughkeepsie, NY, USA.

I discovered POV through the UK mag Computer Arts.  My job involves failure analysis
and
materials engineering, both of which make use of my genetically enhanced 3-D reasoning
skills.  I was doing raytracing on my notepads before I had a computer!

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk


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From: Psychomek
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:22:10
Message: <36C9EF1A.70BEC08@cyberhighway.net>
Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all from.
>
> Andy Cocker
>
> York, England.
>
> --------------------------
> and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk

My name is Jeremy Smith. I'm not a snob or any such thing....   and i am hopelessly
addicted to Moray and Povray!  (Although my lover thinks it is a waste of time *GASP*)
I
live in Gainesville Georgia, 40 miles North of Atlanta ('96 summer Olympics) I'm 21
yo,
interest include Povray (Obviously!), Music, Sci-fi/ Fantasy books, and RPGs....  as
far
as i can tell I'm the only one in the South eastern US on the NG...  but then i
haven't
read through all this thread.. :}

Psychomek


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From: Mark Palmquist
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:53:56
Message: <36C9F745.1C091D82@earthlink.net>
Well Ken, I'm guessing irvine ior Coasta Mesa but could be wrong.  I used to live in
Murrieta and commute to Santa Monica (95 miles each way) got old REAL quick.  Moved to
San
Jose, the real center of the universe, at least according to some:)  Now commute 5
Miles.
And yes Ken I am a "wacky, propeller headed,  poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying,
programmer type!  But I think I can get along with your unprogrammed personality.  I
too
use no stinking modeling programs.

I love POV and wish I could get by with less than my normal 4 hours of sleep.  Just
don't
have as much time to play with POV.  Other hobbies are Shooting, Archery, computer
games
(DELTA FORCE), pop music and photography. So Ken quit knocking programmers or we'll
stop
writing code and you will have to raytrace with pen and paper.....

did you catch the pov typo? :) decided to leave it in after reading it and laughing.

Ken wrote:

> Andrew Cocker wrote:
> >
> > Having only recently discovered this group, I'm curious as to where you're all
from.
> >
> > Andy Cocker
> >
> > York, England.
>
> Hello Andy Cocker from York, England.
>
>   First off, I am a Pov snob. I don't use no stinking modeling program
> to create my scenes and I don't indent my scene files like them wacky,
> propeller headed, Poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying, programmer types.
>
>   So with that over with let me introduce myself...
>
>   I am simply referred to around here as Ken and this suits me just fine.
> I live on the west coast of North America, the state of California,
> approximatly 50 miles (80.45km) south of HollyWood, approximatly 80 miles
> (128.72km) north of the Mexico border, and just 10 minutes away from the
> original Disneyland, home of Mickey Mouse. I'm also 10 minutes away from
> some of the best beaches anywhere in the US and I live smack in the middle
> of a high technology, electronics development, and manufacturing region.
> It's not paridise but it sure ain't lovely downtown Bagdad either.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Mark Palmquist
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:03:04
Message: <36C9F969.59FB5836@earthlink.net>
Damn, Ken I was off by a few miles. Tustin, is the El Toro air base still there?  I
thought it
was closing down a few years ago.  Saw the Blue Angles there in '93.

Mark Palmquist wrote:

> Well Ken, I'm guessing irvine ior Coasta Mesa but could be wrong.  I used to live in
> Murrieta and commute to Santa Monica (95 miles each way) got old REAL quick.  Moved
to San
> Jose, the real center of the universe, at least according to some:)  Now commute 5
Miles.
> And yes Ken I am a "wacky, propeller headed,  poindexter, pocket pen pouch carrying,
> programmer type!  But I think I can get along with your unprogrammed personality.  I
too
> use no stinking modeling programs.
>
> I love POV and wish I could get by with less than my normal 4 hours of sleep.  Just
don't
> have as much time to play with POV.  Other hobbies are Shooting, Archery, computer
games
> (DELTA FORCE), pop music and photography. So Ken quit knocking programmers or we'll
stop
> writing code and you will have to raytrace with pen and paper.....
>
> did you catch the pov typo? :) decided to leave it in after reading it and laughing.


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: Where are you?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:04:53
Message: <36c9f995.0@news.povray.org>
Westland is West of Garden City, South of Livonia (and I96), East of
Plymouth (and I-275).  Southfield is way North and East of Livonia.

--
Jim

Check out my web site http://www.kressworks.com/
It'll blow your mind (politically), stimulate your senses (artistically)
and provide scientific insights beyond compare!

Be sure to read the Warp maintained POV VFAQ:
http://iki.fi/warp/povVFAQ.html




portelli wrote in message <36C9D717.AE393B76@pilot.msu.edu>...
>Actually it is more west of Southfield I think.
>
>Johannes Hubert wrote:
>>
>> Nathan Kopp wrote in message <36C8EC2B.66B41C50@Kopp.com>...
>> >Northville, huh???  hmm... quick search on MapsOnUs.com... wow.. you're
>> just
>> >down the freeway a bit.
>> >
>> >I'm currently living in Southfield, Michigan, USA (near Detroit).
>> [snip]
>>
>> I love those american town names!
>>
>> "Northville" being "just down the freeway a bit" from "Southfield"! :-)
>>
>> How far to "Eastvillage" and "Westhome"?
>>
>> Johannes.


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