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From: Lance Birch
Subject: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 4 Jan 1999 21:50:04
Message: <36917ddc.0@news.povray.org>
OK, as promised, here are the results from the POV-Survey I ran:

People that completed the survey: 75
No. Males: 72
No. Females: 3
Oldest person: 66
Youngest person: 15
Average age: 28.52

Male percent: 96
Female percent: 4

Youngest male: 15
Youngest female: 22
Oldest male: 66
Oldest female: 40

There we are, and WOW!  I'm still amongst the youngest! (turning 16 in
March)

I was surprised by the number of females, but then again the survey isn't
very representative of all the POV-Ray users, because only a small percent
use this newsgroup (that's what I assume anyway...).

I will soon be posting a more comprehensive survey, stay tuned!!!

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 4 Jan 1999 21:51:55
Message: <36917e4b.0@news.povray.org>
BTW, all email addresses submitted remain totally confidential.
This survey was in no way connected to or endorsed by the POV-Team.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 5 Jan 1999 03:48:49
Message: <3691D181.ECBDA9C4@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> OK, as promised, here are the results from the POV-Survey I ran:
> 
> People that completed the survey: 75
> No. Males: 72
> No. Females: 3
> Oldest person: 66
> Youngest person: 15
> Average age: 28.52
> 
> Male percent: 96
> Female percent: 4
> 
> Youngest male: 15
> Youngest female: 22
> Oldest male: 66
> Oldest female: 40
> 
> There we are, and WOW!  I'm still amongst the youngest! (turning 16 in
> March)
> 
> I was surprised by the number of females, but then again the survey isn't
> very representative of all the POV-Ray users, because only a small percent
> use this newsgroup (that's what I assume anyway...).
> 
> I will soon be posting a more comprehensive survey, stay tuned!!!
> 
> --
> Lance.

What ! No graphs ? Sheesh !

Statisticaly I don't feel your percentages will hold
up if the time period for the survey were longer, and
it's wise to remember that older folk will consider
such surveys pointless, old age dulls enthusiasm, and
might not feel obliged to fill it out. But it is
kinda interesting. The female respondant numbers support
my assertaions in my why aren't there more females out
there using the program thread.

The oldest female is my age. That's neat.

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 5 Jan 1999 07:24:59
Message: <3692049b.0@news.povray.org>
Well, actually Mr Tyler, you can still submit things to the survey, in fact,
I just got 5 new submitions, so when I post the new survey up, I'll include
any new ones as well.

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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 5 Jan 1999 10:38:52
Message: <3692320c.0@news.povray.org>
Lance,

Glad to see you putting effort into the survey.  I look forward to
future surveys.

Mike

P.S.  Did you post your survey announcement in the
comp.graphics.raytracing??
Perhaps not, since it was geared for POV-Ray only.....(sigh)


Lance Birch wrote in message <36917ddc.0@news.povray.org>...
>OK, as promised, here are the results from the POV-Survey I ran:
>


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From: Pedro Graterol
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 5 Jan 1999 14:46:47
Message: <36926c27.0@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote in message <3691D181.ECBDA9C4@pacbell.net>...
>What ! No graphs ? Sheesh !
>
>Statisticaly I don't feel your percentages will hold
>up if the time period for the survey were longer, and
>it's wise to remember that older folk will consider
>such surveys pointless,

That's the reason I did not include my e-mail

>old age dulls enthusiasm, and
>might not feel obliged to fill it out. But it is
>kinda interesting.

Of course, I do not agree with the first statement....:)

The female respondant numbers support
>my assertaions in my why aren't there more females out
>there using the program thread.


Your post about this is pretty interesting.  I am preparing some kind
of organized thoughts about that. And I will publish it in the thread right
after it is done - if my english improves a little-

>The oldest female is my age. That's neat.


Very proud to be the oldest female -mostly reading- this newsgroup.!

 Marjorie Graterol
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From: Kyle
Subject: That's me!
Date: 5 Jan 1999 17:26:10
Message: <36929117.803D97EC@geocities.com>
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#0000EE" vlink="#551A8B" alink="#FF0000">
Lance Birch wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>OK, as promised, here are the results from the POV-Survey
I ran:
<p>Youngest person: 15
<br>Youngest male: 15</blockquote>
Hey, that's me! WooHoo I'm famous!  You're 15 too?  I don't turn
16 until August :-( I think the survey is a great idea and I'll be sure
to respond to the next one.
<br>                   
kyle
</body>
</html>


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:56:52
Message: <3692df04.0@news.povray.org>
Hi Kyle, thanks, I got your email!  It's great to know that there is someone
MY age in here!!!  I'm going to have to start calling everyone Mr ... and
Mrs ... from now on!!! <g>

I'll upload the new survey in a minute.  I've just got a bit of code fixing
to do...

Keep on tracing!!!

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: The Results of the POV-Survey
Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:59:52
Message: <3692dfb8.0@news.povray.org>
Sorry Mike, I don't have a USENET news server any more it seems.  I've tried
for the last two weeks to connect to it but it seems it's been removed.  I'm
going to ring my ISP about it soon.  There new survey will be ready in a few
minutes...

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 7 Jan 1999 01:33:21
Message: <3694553B.E85D87DD@aol.com>
Oh, good...
I could use a couple of youngsters to do my text input for me. These
arthritic fingers are a pain!

Kyle wrote:
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> > OK, as promised, here are the results from the POV-Survey I ran:
> >
> > Youngest person: 15
> > Youngest male: 15
> 
> Hey, that's me! WooHoo I'm famous!  You're 15 too?  I don't turn 16
> until August :-( I think the survey is a great idea and I'll be sure
> to respond to the next one.
>                     kyle

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 7 Jan 1999 23:18:13
Message: <36958705.0@news.povray.org>
What's this?  Slave labour??? :)  LOL

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From: Stephen Lavedas
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 00:46:17
Message: <36959BB0.9D6A13FC@virginia.edu>
If you call me Mr or Sir or anything like that I'll smack you.. that
goes for if you call Ken Mr. Tyler as well!:)  I just couldn't stand for
that:)) jk

Steve


Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Hi Kyle, thanks, I got your email!  It's great to know that there is someone
> MY age in here!!!  I'm going to have to start calling everyone Mr ... and
> Mrs ... from now on!!! <g>
> 
> I'll upload the new survey in a minute.  I've just got a bit of code fixing
> to do...
> 
> Keep on tracing!!!
> 
> --
> Lance.
> 
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:56:44
Message: <3695AC33.81FDA0DB@aol.com>
Um, please pay no attention to the little "mister" in the bottom left
corner of my message posts due to the Netscape address card I candidly
filled out (think only Netscape and IE users with this feature enabled
see it, not sure).
And hey, it wouldn't be slave-labor at coupon-cash-value-per-hour would
it?

Stephen Lavedas wrote:
> 
> If you call me Mr or Sir or anything like that I'll smack you.. that
> goes for if you call Ken Mr. Tyler as well!:)  I just couldn't stand for
> that:)) jk
> 
> Steve
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kyle, thanks, I got your email!  It's great to know that there is someone
> > MY age in here!!!  I'm going to have to start calling everyone Mr ... and
> > Mrs ... from now on!!! <g>
> >
> > I'll upload the new survey in a minute.  I've just got a bit of code fixing
> > to do...
> >
> > Keep on tracing!!!
> >
> > --
> > Lance.
> >
> > ---
> > For the latest MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
> > The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 03:16:17
Message: <3695BE55.2881FC0C@pacbell.net>
Stephen Lavedas wrote:

> If you call me Mr or Sir or anything like that I'll smack you.. that
> goes for if you call Ken Mr. Tyler as well!:)  I just couldn't stand for
> that:)) jk
>
> Steve

I do not mind if young Lance wishes to call me "Mr. Tyler". It is after all
a sign of respect all youngsters should give their elders. "Sir" and "Master"
are also agreeable with me. He may also refer to me as "The Great Mr.
Tyler" or "The Honorable Mr. Tyler" and I will not challenge this. He may
NOT call me "Sphincter Boy" on the other hand as this will cause several
living generations of "Tyler's" world wide to scedual a trip to Austrailia to
extract a bit of flesh from his down under.

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 04:17:05
Message: <3695CC62.6F42426@xs4all.nl>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Stephen Lavedas wrote:
> 
> > If you call me Mr or Sir or anything like that I'll smack you.. that
> > goes for if you call Ken Mr. Tyler as well!:)  I just couldn't stand for
> > that:)) jk
> >
> > Steve
> 
> I do not mind if young Lance wishes to call me "Mr. Tyler". It is after all
> a sign of respect all youngsters should give their elders. "Sir" and "Master"
> are also agreeable with me. He may also refer to me as "The Great Mr.
> Tyler" or "The Honorable Mr. Tyler" and I will not challenge this. He may
> NOT call me "Sphincter Boy" on the other hand as this will cause several
> living generations of "Tyler's" world wide to scedual a trip to Austrailia to
> extract a bit of flesh from his down under.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> tyl### [at] pacbellnet

Hehe, me thinks the young squire is very impressed Master Ken, sir.

("My name? Sodoff, that's what my mother used to call me...")


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 05:54:18
Message: <3695E366.9FCA4625@pacbell.net>
Remco de Korte wrote:

> Hehe, me thinks the young squire is very impressed Master Ken, sir.
>
> ("My name? Sodoff, that's what my mother used to call me...")

 Sodoff ? Like a shot gun ?

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 09:16:35
Message: <36961343.0@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:56:51 -0600, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>Um, please pay no attention to the little "mister" in the bottom left
>corner of my message posts due to the Netscape address card I candidly
>filled out (think only Netscape and IE users with this feature enabled
>see it, not sure).

Unfortunately, no.  The rest of us (using SLRN here) get to see this 
monstrosity at the bottom of each of your posts:

>--------------015EEE92D8E282DA89218226
>Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
> name="inverse.vcf"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Description: Card for Bob Hughes
>Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="inverse.vcf"
>
>begin:vcard 
>n:Hughes;Bob
>x-mozilla-html:FALSE
>url:http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
>org:omniVERSE;xyz
>adr:;;;;;;
>version:2.1
>email;internet:inv### [at] aolcom
>title:Mister
>note:Mental note:
>fn:Inverse
>end:vcard
>
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 10:18:26
Message: <36960323.15E308EC@xs4all.nl>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> > Hehe, me thinks the young squire is very impressed Master Ken, sir.
> >
> > ("My name? Sodoff, that's what my mother used to call me...")
> 
>  Sodoff ? Like a shot gun ?
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> tyl### [at] pacbellnet

Could be. I wonder, would that work for my brothers, Pissoff, Buzzoff and, the
retarded little No-POV?


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From: Jerry Anning
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 11:32:07
Message: <36963304.5BA7440B@dhol.com>
Ken wrote:

> I do not mind if young Lance wishes to call me "Mr. Tyler". It is after all
> a sign of respect all youngsters should give their elders. "Sir" and "Master"
> are also agreeable with me. He may also refer to me as "The Great Mr.
> Tyler" or "The Honorable Mr. Tyler" and I will not challenge this. He may
> NOT call me "Sphincter Boy" on the other hand as this will cause several
> living generations of "Tyler's" world wide to scedual a trip to Austrailia to
> extract a bit of flesh from his down under.

So should I refer to you as "that barely-weaned young whelp" or regard
you as a fellow (not quite as) wizened old geezer?

Jerry Anning
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 8 Jan 1999 13:20:35
Message: <36964C03.1062B3A8@pacbell.net>
Jerry Anning wrote:

> So should I refer to you as "that barely-weaned young whelp" or regard
> you as a fellow (not quite as) wizened old geezer?
>
> Jerry Anning
> cle### [at] dholcom

Ken is easy to type :)
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 9 Jan 1999 07:43:58
Message: <36974F10.8F277AF0@aol.com>
Unholy cattle!
What kind of newsreader is that anyway?! Well, never you mind, I
promptly removed the check from the box telling Netscape to add that
into my message posts. I had seen other peoples Address Cards in IE and
WinVN but don't recall such a bunch of gibberish when using those.
All who saw what Ron was seeing may now thank me ;)


Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:56:51 -0600, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
> >Um, please pay no attention to the little "mister" in the bottom left
> >corner of my message posts due to the Netscape address card I candidly
> >filled out (think only Netscape and IE users with this feature enabled
> >see it, not sure).
> 
> Unfortunately, no.  The rest of us (using SLRN here) get to see this
> monstrosity at the bottom of each of your posts:
> 
> >--------------015EEE92D8E282DA89218226
> >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
> > name="inverse.vcf"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Content-Description: Card for Bob Hughes
> >Content-Disposition: attachment;
> > filename="inverse.vcf"
> >
> >begin:vcard
> >n:Hughes;Bob
> >x-mozilla-html:FALSE
> >url:http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
> >org:omniVERSE;xyz
> >adr:;;;;;;
> >version:2.1
> >email;internet:inv### [at] aolcom
> >title:Mister
> >note:Mental note:
> >fn:Inverse
> >end:vcard
> >
> >--------------015EEE92D8E282DA89218226--

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 9 Jan 1999 21:54:14
Message: <36981656.0@news.povray.org>
You have no idea what Australia is really like do you?  :)

I bet all you Americans think that there are kangaroos and koalas everywhere
around here, don't you?  Well, I've only seen *1* koala in real life in my
entire existence, and that was at a sanctuary!!!  As for kangaroos, only a
few.  Believe me, it isn't a desert wasteland!!!

Just thought I'd clear that up, The Great Mr Tyler. ;-)

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 9 Jan 1999 21:55:27
Message: <3698169f.0@news.povray.org>
That's what you think ;-)

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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 09:15:27
Message: <3698b60f.5544609@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" <zon### [at] satcomnetau> wrote:

>You have no idea what Australia is really like do you?  :)
>
>I bet all you Americans think that there are kangaroos and koalas everywhere
>around here, don't you?  Well, I've only seen *1* koala in real life in my
>entire existence, and that was at a sanctuary!!!  As for kangaroos, only a
>few.  Believe me, it isn't a desert wasteland!!!

Hmmm ... wait until you're old enough to drive. Then you'll see more than a
'few' kangaroos (maybe one -too- many - they didn't invent 'roo bars' for
nothing ;)


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From: george erhard
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 15:40:00
Message: <36991087.C7D947B2@NOSPAM.pacbell.net>
No, it's known as an 'apprenticeship'.

(I should shut up, i'm barely into the POV acolyte stage as it is. :)

Lance Birch wrote:

> What's this?  Slave labour??? :)  LOL
>
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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:47:01
Message: <3699202D.31412E8A@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Ken wrote:
> I do not mind if young Lance wishes to call me "Mr. Tyler". It is after all
> a sign of respect all youngsters should give their elders. "Sir" and "Master"
> are also agreeable with me. He may also refer to me as "The Great Mr.
> Tyler" or "The Honorable Mr. Tyler" and I will not challenge this. He may

Well Ken, I really have no respect for age are disrespect for the lack
of it! But I *DO* have respect for craftmanship and devotion,
... *SIR* !!!  :-)

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That's me!
Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:47:50
Message: <369a7f96.0@news.povray.org>
Well, yeah, you're right, cause most of the ones I've seen are dead on the
side of main highways...

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