Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the contest process
?

Chris Holtorf

"Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the contest
process ?

Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere (I think on one of the sponsors'
websites - perhaps Appro's) that the plan was to announce the winners during
this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
Boston).  However, this is just from my memory and should NOT be taken in any
way as being official - this is just what I recall having seen.  The official
word on what's going on will most probably come from Chris Cason during the next
two weeks, so keep an eye out for messages from him on here, and the news
section of the POVCOMP website.

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com

"Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:42005daa@news.povray.org...
> "Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
> news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
>> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the 
>> contest
> process ?
>
> Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere... <snip>


Probably here:
http://www.povcomp.com/rules/ "Competition Timeframe"

Or perhaps the Chris was wondering if there would be something in-between 
the submission and the announcement.  If so, we haven't heard anything 
either way.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
news:4200d645@news.povray.org...
> "Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:42005daa@news.povray.org...
> > "Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
> > news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
> >> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the
> >> contest
> > process ?
> >
> > Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere... <snip>
>
>
> Probably here:
> http://www.povcomp.com/rules/ "Competition Timeframe"

Ah, so it was indeed - and I just found it on the Appro website as well.

> Or perhaps the Chris was wondering if there would be something in-between
> the submission and the announcement.  If so, we haven't heard anything
> either way.

I see what you mean now.  I can't really think of anything that could be
announced between the close of the competition and announcing the winners,
though.  Perhaps only little notes like "judging has begun", "judging is now
finalised", etc.

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com

"Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:4200dac5@news.povray.org...
>
> I see what you mean now.  I can't really think of anything that could be
> announced between the close of the competition and announcing the winners,
> though.  Perhaps only little notes like "judging has begun", "judging is 
> now
> finalised", etc.
>


Once judging is finished, but before any announcement, it might be nice to 
see all of the competing images together.  But I don't have any idea how 
long judging will take, so perhaps that's out of the question.

Hopefully, we'll get some sort of announcement, such as how many competing 
images there are.  Personally, I hope the quality of the submissions has 
improved significantly since October.  POV-Ray can do incredible things. 
Hopefully, we've proven it here.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
news:4200eae4$1@news.povray.org...

> Hopefully, we've proven it here.

Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

G.

-- 

**********************
http://www.oyonale.com
**********************
- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray and Poser computer images
- Posters

"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message 
news:42025c37@news.povray.org...
> "Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
> news:4200eae4$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Hopefully, we've proven it here.
>
> Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

 Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough already.


   ~Steve~


> G.

> > Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> > images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

Yay!

>  Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough
already.


It seems like a lot of people had this attitude about the competition. I
think it's sad. If you put months of hard work into something and get it
into a state that you feel is completed, then you should never be ashamed of
it, regardless of how it looks next to anything else. And more importantly,
everyone who is skilled at something was once unskilled at it. (Even Gilles
Tran's early work looks like everyone else's.) Holding back gets you
nowhere. Povcomp was an excellent opportunity for everyone to develop their
skills and I wish more people had taken advantage of it.

Being critical of one's own work is important, but only for the sake of
self-improvement.

What I'm saying here doesn't apply just to povcomp, or even just to POV-Ray.
Never decide that you aren't capable of being as good as (or better than)
the best! Believing in your own potential is necessary to achieve it.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

Slime wrote:
>>>Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
>>>images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
> 
> 
> Yay!
> 
> 
>> Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough
> 
> already.
> 
> 
> It seems like a lot of people had this attitude about the competition. I
> think it's sad. If you put months of hard work into something and get it
> into a state that you feel is completed, then you should never be ashamed of
> it, regardless of how it looks next to anything else. And more importantly,
> everyone who is skilled at something was once unskilled at it. (Even Gilles
> Tran's early work looks like everyone else's.) Holding back gets you
> nowhere. Povcomp was an excellent opportunity for everyone to develop their
> skills and I wish more people had taken advantage of it.
> 
> Being critical of one's own work is important, but only for the sake of
> self-improvement.
> 
> What I'm saying here doesn't apply just to povcomp, or even just to POV-Ray.
> Never decide that you aren't capable of being as good as (or better than)
> the best! Believing in your own potential is necessary to achieve it.
> 
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
> 
> 
Good words.  But I think they are a bit ironic here since Steve was one 
of the most vocal proponents of that very viewpoint throughout the 
contest, and he was kind of an inspiration to me.  I'm not taking his 
post in a totally straighforward way.  I think he is still trying to 
come to grips with the "loss" of not fielding an entry, after he worked 
so hard and long, rising from the ashes twice if I've understood 
correctly.  He had to make a tough decision to self-edit based on what 
he felt, in the end, were serious technical flaws with his entry.  That 
takes a certain kind of toughness too.

-Jim

> Good words.  But I think they are a bit ironic here since Steve was one
> of the most vocal proponents of that very viewpoint throughout the
> contest, and he was kind of an inspiration to me.  I'm not taking his
> post in a totally straighforward way.  I think he is still trying to
> come to grips with the "loss" of not fielding an entry, after he worked
> so hard and long, rising from the ashes twice if I've understood
> correctly.  He had to make a tough decision to self-edit based on what
> he felt, in the end, were serious technical flaws with his entry.  That
> takes a certain kind of toughness too.

I guess I didn't fully understand Steve's situation. In any case, my post
was also in response to many other posts I've seen on the newsgroups in the
last few days; I just figured this would be a good place to say it.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

Slime wrote:
>>Good words.  But I think they are a bit ironic here since Steve was one
>>of the most vocal proponents of that very viewpoint throughout the
>>contest, and he was kind of an inspiration to me.  I'm not taking his
>>post in a totally straighforward way.  I think he is still trying to
>>come to grips with the "loss" of not fielding an entry, after he worked
>>so hard and long, rising from the ashes twice if I've understood
>>correctly.  He had to make a tough decision to self-edit based on what
>>he felt, in the end, were serious technical flaws with his entry.  That
>>takes a certain kind of toughness too.
> 
> 
> I guess I didn't fully understand Steve's situation. In any case, my post
> was also in response to many other posts I've seen on the newsgroups in the
> last few days; I just figured this would be a good place to say it.
> 
I totally agree.  And you said it well.

The whole thing evidently weighed on people's minds a lot. Several 
people feeling the need to explain their decision, one way or another. 
I think a high-profile event like this is quite a learning experience 
for us, and across several issues.  During the course of the entire 
contest, in both its phases, I believe I have personally experienced 
every feeling of doubt and apprehension that has been voiced here.

> 
> Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
> 
> G.
> 

That is great news. This sort of comment would be great to see posted on the POVCOMP
website. It also makes me feel a whole lot better about the effort that I and everyone
else put into this contest. I also struggled with whether or not to post my results
and decided to go ahead and post it anyway, despite my grave concern about it not
being good enough.
I don't suppose we could see some thumbnail size images of all of the submissions ?
It would be helpful to see all of the different subjects that everyone picked.

Chris Holtorf

"Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote in message 
news:42029465@news.povray.org...
>> > Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of 
>> > superb
>> > images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
>
> Yay!
>
>>  Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough
> already.
>
>
> It seems like a lot of people had this attitude about the competition. I
> think it's sad. If you put months of hard work into something and get it
> into a state that you feel is completed, then you should never be ashamed 
> of
> it, regardless of how it looks next to anything else. And more 
> importantly,
> everyone who is skilled at something was once unskilled at it. (Even 
> Gilles
> Tran's early work looks like everyone else's.) Holding back gets you
> nowhere. Povcomp was an excellent opportunity for everyone to develop 
> their
> skills and I wish more people had taken advantage of it.
>
> Being critical of one's own work is important, but only for the sake of
> self-improvement.
>
> What I'm saying here doesn't apply just to povcomp, or even just to 
> POV-Ray.
> Never decide that you aren't capable of being as good as (or better than)
> the best! Believing in your own potential is necessary to achieve it.

   Slime, trust me my friend, I understood before you posted, exactly what 
you mean and are saying.

    I'm nothing special, and I don't, and won't, believe that for one second 
or minute. I am though, an artist - the same as you and others here. Not an 
an 'on-line' artist like we've 'all' seen and tried to do - but I've done my 
apprenticeship with other mediums when I was younger, and it helps.

 Then PoV-Ray actually came around for me... A different story. Something I 
'could' possibly control/deal with comparative to other <free trial> 
programs, etc. But, if I can't cut the ice, then I have to comply with that 
for now - it's 'really' not a problem for me, I'll get there, because I'm 
stronger than that - really. I won't give up PoVing. The whole thing is not 
about me, it's about the others here, and what they do and try to achieve in 
their own time, and what they share with new people eagerly awaiting around 
the corner - ready to pounce. Yeah, 'pounce' - we all try to do it, which is 
a good thing - competition is always a 'good' thing.

 Ashamed about my image? No way, I just effed-up my details, that's all - 
hence my post above, ("How important...") Remember, I did lose two 'heavy' 
sets of files, (and many previous IRTC image files), that were my efforts 
for the PoVComp, ('Flowers' being one of my early images - it was much 
better than that in the end before losing it), and then I started again with 
another idea after installing XP in December. I compiled my latest image in 
a little over six weeks, not five months.

   See .images.

(Jim, I think this answers your post too - thank you for your kind words, 
appreciated and understood).

(Time for sleep now... I'm cream-crackered! REALLY!)  ;)

  Regards all,

    ~Steve~




>
> - Slime
> [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
>

"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
news:4202cbbc@news.povray.org...
>>
> I totally agree.  And you said it well.

Yep.  A long-race against worthy opponents, perhaps.  I hate to think of 
anyone as being an "opponent" though.  :-)

>
> The whole thing evidently weighed on people's minds a lot. Several people 
> feeling the need to explain their decision, one way or another. I think a 
> high-profile event like this is quite a learning experience for us, and 
> across several issues.  During the course of the entire contest, in both 
> its phases, I believe I have personally experienced every feeling of doubt 
> and apprehension that has been voiced here.

Luckily, I guess I shoved most of my doubt and apprehension aside until 
after I submitted my image.  Then I started looking around at raph.com, 
trying out new ideas, looking at Gilles' Mini Cooper scene, etc.  Suddenly, 
my entry didn't seem good enough anymore.  Eventually it wore me down.  For 
a few days I was convinced that my entry would "suck", and I sunk into a bit 
of depression.  I've shown my entry to some family and friends and I got 
some encouraging words, but also things like, "What's that supposed to 
be???" and, "I don't get it..."  I'm sure everyone gets that.  It's hard to 
know if you should take someone's advice.

Tonight, I feel more relaxed, thanks in part to Gilles' statement.  Funny 
how that works.  Somehow, knowing that the entries are higher quality makes 
me feel better about everyone involved, including me.  Competing in any 
competition always teaches me something about myself.  Regardless of the 
end-result, I think THAT is a good thing.

I'm glad the judging for this competition is anonymous.  Otherwise, I would 
feel less inclined to speak this openly.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

Chris Holtorf wrote:
>>Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
>>images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
>>
>>G.
>>
> 
> 
> That is great news. This sort of comment would be great to see posted on the POVCOMP
> website.

Did you check the website in the last two days...?

	Thorsten

"Jeremy M. Praay" <sla### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4202e327$1@news.povray.org...
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
> news:4202cbbc@news.povray.org...
>>>
>> I totally agree.  And you said it well.
>
> Yep.  A long-race against worthy opponents, perhaps.  I hate to think of 
> anyone as being an "opponent" though.  :-)
>
>>
>> The whole thing evidently weighed on people's minds a lot. Several people 
>> feeling the need to explain their decision, one way or another. I think a 
>> high-profile event like this is quite a learning experience for us, and 
>> across several issues.  During the course of the entire contest, in both 
>> its phases, I believe I have personally experienced every feeling of 
>> doubt and apprehension that has been voiced here.
>
> Luckily, I guess I shoved most of my doubt and apprehension aside until 
> after I submitted my image.  Then I started looking around at raph.com, 
> trying out new ideas, looking at Gilles' Mini Cooper scene, etc. 
> Suddenly, my entry didn't seem good enough anymore.  Eventually it wore me 
> down.  For a few days I was convinced that my entry would "suck", and I 
> sunk into a bit of depression.  I've shown my entry to some family and 
> friends and I got some encouraging words, but also things like, "What's 
> that supposed to be???" and, "I don't get it..."  I'm sure everyone gets 
> that.  It's hard to know if you should take someone's advice.
>
> Tonight, I feel more relaxed, thanks in part to Gilles' statement.  Funny 
> how that works.  Somehow, knowing that the entries are higher quality 
> makes me feel better about everyone involved, including me.  Competing in 
> any competition always teaches me something about myself.  Regardless of 
> the end-result, I think THAT is a good thing.
>
> I'm glad the judging for this competition is anonymous.  Otherwise, I 
> would feel less inclined to speak this openly.

   Jeremy, I agree with you wholeheartedly. What I would like however, is a 
few results with that damned computer. Grrr! Let's see what it can do after 
all this!

  Would be good.  :)

    Now sleep... z

    ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> Jeremy
> www.beantoad.com
>

Jeremy M. Praay wrote:


> of depression.  I've shown my entry to some family and friends and I got 
> some encouraging words, but also things like, "What's that supposed to 
> be???" and, "I don't get it..."  I'm sure everyone gets that.  It's hard to 
> know if you should take someone's advice.
> 
No one answer to that in my experience.  There is the famous and 
mysterious effect of "putting it on the wall"  Merely putting a picture 
you have been working on, up in a public setting can make you see all 
sorts of things you never noticed before.  Also I know one successful 
artist who, when you visited his studio, was clearly listening very 
closely to your reactions, and seemed to be able to make use of that. 
For me the best, and fairly humorous observation came from and old high 
school friend that I had occassion to meet many years after we were out 
of school.  We were comparing the direction our lives had taken.  "Ah, 
artists," he said, "you go into their studio and you see a picture you 
like, but it's never the one they like.  It's always some dismal failure 
in their eyes."  He really nailed it.  That was always my exact 
experience.  You would invite someone into you studio and unerringly 
they would point to either, some studio dog, left unfinished and worked 
on half heartedly on rainy days, or some canvas barely started with just 
the underpainting blocked in. "I like that one :)"  Unerringly!

"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message
news:42025c37@news.povray.org...
> "Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
> news:4200eae4$1@news.povray.org...
>
> > Hopefully, we've proven it here.
>
> Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
>
> G.
>

I just hope we get a little interview with the winner when it's all over.

"Ross" <rli### [at] everestkcnet> a écrit dans le message de news: 
4203de4c$1@news.povray.org...

> I just hope we get a little interview with the winner when it's all over.

That's a good idea, I'll keep that in mind. There has been few formal 
interviews of Povers actually.

G.

-- 
**********************
http://www.oyonale.com
**********************
- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray and Poser computer images
- Posters

> the plan was to announce the winners during
> this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
> Boston).

Well, now that it's the 14th, does anyone know more specifically when we can
expect to hear the results? I'm excited! =)

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

"Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote in message news:42111a0c$1@news.povray.org...
> > the plan was to announce the winners during
> > this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
> > Boston).
>
> Well, now that it's the 14th, does anyone know more specifically when we can
> expect to hear the results? I'm excited! =)

Very soon :)

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com

Lance Birch wrote:
> "Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote in message news:42111a0c$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>>the plan was to announce the winners during
>>>this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
>>>Boston).
>>
>>Well, now that it's the 14th, does anyone know more specifically when we can
>>expect to hear the results? I'm excited! =)
> 
> 
> Very soon :)
> 
> Lance.
> 
> thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
> thehandle - www.thehandle.com
> 
> 
prob missed out on a card :-)

stephen

"stephen parkinson" <ste### [at] zmemw16demoncouk> wrote in message
news:42119365@news.povray.org...
> Lance Birch wrote:
> > "Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote in message
news:42111a0c$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> >>>the plan was to announce the winners during
> >>>this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
> >>>Boston).
> >>
> >>Well, now that it's the 14th, does anyone know more specifically when we can
> >>expect to hear the results? I'm excited! =)
> >
> >
> > Very soon :)
> >
> > Lance.
> >
> > thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
> > thehandle - www.thehandle.com
> >
> >
> prob missed out on a card :-)

Heh :)  Everything is running as planned :)

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com

I wonder if there will be announcement regarding when the announcement will 
be...

Or maybe they'll announce that they will announce when they will announce.

Or maybe it's already been announced, but since I'm not at LinuxWorld, I 
just don't know it.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
news:42124032@news.povray.org...
> I wonder if there will be announcement regarding when the announcement
will
> be...
>
> Or maybe they'll announce that they will announce when they will announce.
>
> Or maybe it's already been announced, but since I'm not at LinuxWorld, I
> just don't know it.
>
> -- 
A google search gave http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/
It is from feb/14 to 17 in Boston
Maybe we can hope results before 18th :)

Marc

"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
news:42124559$1@news.povray.org...
> A google search gave http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/
> It is from feb/14 to 17 in Boston
> Maybe we can hope results before 18th :)
>


Well, yeah, but what day exactly? What time of the day?  Where's the 
count-down timer to the announcement?  ;-)

I'm just kidding of course.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message 
news:42124755$1@news.povray.org...
> "Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
> news:42124559$1@news.povray.org...
>> A google search gave http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/
>> It is from feb/14 to 17 in Boston
>> Maybe we can hope results before 18th :)
>>
>
>
> Well, yeah, but what day exactly? What time of the day?  Where's the 
> count-down timer to the announcement?  ;-)

  Nah, it'll be delayed by three months...  ;)


> I'm just kidding of course.

   Of course... :)

  I want to know if there's going to be another one though.

   ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> Jeremy
> www.beantoad.com
>
>
>

> Well, yeah, but what day exactly? What time of the day?  Where's the
> count-down timer to the announcement?  ;-)

Actually the results are available here already:

ftp.povcomp.org

> I'm just kidding of course.

Me too :)
And now seriously:

Due to the number of entrants many judges reported that they could not
complete their work in time, a decision has been made to extend the judging
process to April 1, 2005. In retrospect we can see that the original time
allowed (only 3 weeks) was just too short. All entrants will receive an
email regarding this shortly.

On April 1st:

Congrats! POVCOMP was just a joke :)

Kidding again :)

Gena.

"Gena" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.421250a1f38030d1ff43ef6f0@news.povray.org...
> Actually the results are available here already:
>
> ftp.povcomp.org

Oh, and the new topic is "Squid".

Squid, Architeuthis, calimari, tentacles, Ken.  Anything that makes you 
think of squid.

> Due to the number of entrants many judges reported that they could not
> complete their work in time, a decision has been made to extend the 
> judging
> process to April 1, 2005. In retrospect we can see that the original time
> allowed (only 3 weeks) was just too short. All entrants will receive an
> email regarding this shortly.

From what I understand, the real reason was that the sponsors felt that the 
quality of the judging was not quite good enough.  While there was some 
exceptional judging, there was not enough.  The current bar for judging is 
very high.  I will provide some links later...

;-)

JUST KIDDING!!!

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

Gena <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Due to the number of entrants many judges reported that they could not
> complete their work in time, a decision has been made to extend the judging
> process to April 1, 2005. In retrospect we can see that the original time
> allowed (only 3 weeks) was just too short. All entrants will receive an
> email regarding this shortly.

> On April 1st:

> Congrats! POVCOMP was just a joke :)

  Where did you get this info?! You are in a big problem now for
making it public!

> Kidding again :)

  Likewise ;)

-- 
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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -

The results will be emailed to entrants on the 16th. We will also post
them here and on the website.

-- chris

In case anyone wants to know, the results will be posted here in less
than one hour.

-- Chris

"Chris Cason" <nos### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote in message
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> In case anyone wants to know, the results will be posted here in less
> than one hour.

Yay!  \o/

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com

Chris Cason <nos### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
> In case anyone wants to know,

There might be few people :-)

> the results will be posted here in less than one hour.

Thanks for the update, very exciting!

"Renderdog" <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote in message 
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> Chris Cason <nos### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
>> In case anyone wants to know,
>
> There might be few people :-)
>
Like me.  :-)

A few more minutes?  :-)

-- 
Jeremy
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"Jeremy M. Praay" <sla### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> "Renderdog" <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote in message
> news:web.4214227bf38030d16bcddb6d0@news.povray.org...
> > Chris Cason <nos### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
> >> In case anyone wants to know,
> >
> > There might be few people :-)
> >
> Like me.  :-)
>
> A few more minutes?  :-)

Patience ;)  The results will be made public very, very soon!  When Chris said
less than an hour what he really meant was "hopefully less than an hour" ;)

Just a few more minutes now...

Lance.

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thehandle - www.thehandle.com

Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> Like me.  :-)
> 
> A few more minutes?  :-)

I'm composing the post now ...

>I'm composing the post now ...

::fidgets wildly in seat::