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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 16 Sep 2015 23:53:32
Message: <55fa393c@news.povray.org>
I've tried applying your settings to my own scene, but am not getting 
any reflectivity off the bricks. Could you take a look? The finish is 
defined in "l3p_materials_noshadow_1.4_uber.inc" at line 58. Thanks!


Michael


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 17 Sep 2015 00:11:55
Message: <55fa3d8b$1@news.povray.org>
I just noticed I forgot to copy your global_settings. But after doing 
that I still can't see much reflectivity. I'll post again with an update 
when my render is complete.


Michael


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 17 Sep 2015 17:15:54
Message: <55fb2d8a@news.povray.org>

> I've tried applying your settings to my own scene, but am not getting
> any reflectivity off the bricks. Could you take a look? The finish is
> defined in "l3p_materials_noshadow_1.4_uber.inc" at line 58. Thanks!
>
>
> Michael

When you use "fresnel", you also must provide an interior block where 
you set the ior for that material.
If you don't, the ior default's to 1 whitch prety much kill reflectivity.

A good starting point for the ior is in the range 1.4 to 1.8.
Water's ior is about 1.3.
Most plastics are in the 1.45 to 1.67 range, same for common glass.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 17 Sep 2015 21:43:03
Message: <55fb6c27$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/17/2015 5:17 PM, Alain wrote:
> When you use "fresnel", you also must provide an interior block where
> you set the ior for that material.
> If you don't, the ior default's to 1 whitch prety much kill reflectivity.
>
> A good starting point for the ior is in the range 1.4 to 1.8.
> Water's ior is about 1.3.
> Most plastics are in the 1.45 to 1.67 range, same for common glass.


Thanks for the tip.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 17 Sep 2015 21:45:03
Message: <55fb6c9f@news.povray.org>
I've attached my latest experiments using your settings and the LGEO 
library. Things seem to be working okay. I'll post my render when it's done.

Michael


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 18 Sep 2015 12:54:16
Message: <55fc41b8@news.povray.org>
Am 17.09.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Alain:

>> I've tried applying your settings to my own scene, but am not getting
>> any reflectivity off the bricks. Could you take a look? The finish is
>> defined in "l3p_materials_noshadow_1.4_uber.inc" at line 58. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Michael
> 
> When you use "fresnel", you also must provide an interior block where
> you set the ior for that material.
> If you don't, the ior default's to 1 whitch prety much kill reflectivity.

Actually "pretty much" is an understatement; "totally" would be more to
the point ;)

> A good starting point for the ior is in the range 1.4 to 1.8.
> Water's ior is about 1.3.
> Most plastics are in the 1.45 to 1.67 range, same for common glass.

Solid LEGO bricks are made of acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS),
while transparent LEGO bricks are made of Makrolon, a polycarbonate
(PC); for both families of plastics, an ior of about 1.6 is a very good
approximation.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 21 Sep 2015 23:27:39
Message: <5600caab$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2015 5:51 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.06.2015 um 23:39 schrieb clipka:
>> Am 04.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Reuben Pearse:
>>
>>> I would like try some more UberPov renders using the LDraw models that
>>> I've
>>> already converted to POV-Ray - could you share the full code for your
>>> example picture.
>
> Here are the files that make up the scene. I might have made some minor
> changes by now.
>
> NOTE: The include file "lego_colors_.inc" is NOT INTENDED FOR FURTHER
> DISTRIBUTION without my explicit consent. There are reasons I don't want
> it to be spread around outside this newsgroup.
>

How do you tone down the scattering in the reflection? I want it to be a 
little more sharp.


Michael


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 22 Sep 2015 02:27:04
Message: <5600f4b8$1@news.povray.org>
Am 22.09.2015 um 05:27 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> On 6/5/2015 5:51 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Am 05.06.2015 um 23:39 schrieb clipka:
>>> Am 04.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Reuben Pearse:
>>>
>>>> I would like try some more UberPov renders using the LDraw models that
>>>> I've
>>>> already converted to POV-Ray - could you share the full code for your
>>>> example picture.
>>
>> Here are the files that make up the scene. I might have made some minor
>> changes by now.
>>
>> NOTE: The include file "lego_colors_.inc" is NOT INTENDED FOR FURTHER
>> DISTRIBUTION without my explicit consent. There are reasons I don't want
>> it to be spread around outside this newsgroup.
>>
> 
> How do you tone down the scattering in the reflection? I want it to be a
> little more sharp.

Change the "PlasticRoughness" variable to a lower value.

Note that this will affect both reflection and highlights, and for the
sake of realism that's how it should be.


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 21 Jun 2019 23:58:53
Message: <5d0da77d$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2015 5:51 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.06.2015 um 23:39 schrieb clipka:
>> Am 04.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Reuben Pearse:
>>
>>> I would like try some more UberPov renders using the LDraw models that
>>> I've
>>> already converted to POV-Ray - could you share the full code for your
>>> example picture.
> 
> Here are the files that make up the scene. I might have made some minor 
> changes by now.

Old thread, I know, but I just noticed that PlasticTranslucency is set 
to zero. Does that mean SSLT is disabled in your scene? Further, do you 
think SSLT is appropriate for ABS and polycarbonate plastics? Thanks for 
the help.


Michael


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Imitated Bricks
Date: 22 Jun 2019 12:10:45
Message: <5d0e5305$1@news.povray.org>
Le 19-06-21 à 23:59, Mike Horvath a écrit :
> On 6/5/2015 5:51 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Am 05.06.2015 um 23:39 schrieb clipka:
>>> Am 04.06.2015 um 23:17 schrieb Reuben Pearse:
>>>
>>>> I would like try some more UberPov renders using the LDraw models that
>>>> I've
>>>> already converted to POV-Ray - could you share the full code for your
>>>> example picture.
>>
>> Here are the files that make up the scene. I might have made some 
>> minor changes by now.
> 
> Old thread, I know, but I just noticed that PlasticTranslucency is set 
> to zero. Does that mean SSLT is disabled in your scene? Further, do you 
> think SSLT is appropriate for ABS and polycarbonate plastics? Thanks for 
> the help.
> 
> 
> Michael

Setting PlasticTranslucency to zero effectively disable SSLT. It's set 
that way to render faster, often wanted during the construction of the 
scene.

Yes, SSLT is appropriate for ANY plastic unless that plastic have some 
metallic coating.


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