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From: Michael Grant
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 14 Aug 2020 16:35:01
Message: <web.5f36f5612c738f26bcc46f8a0@news.povray.org>
"Michael Grant" <mam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Michael Grant" <mam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >


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From: Michael Grant
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 14 Aug 2020 16:40:01
Message: <web.5f36f58e2c738f26bcc46f8a0@news.povray.org>
=?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 22.05.20 20:20, Michael Grant wrote:
> > "Michael Grant" <mam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >>
> >
> Did you post the same image two times? I don't see any difference...
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar
>


Yes.  Accidental re-post


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 29 Aug 2020 16:00:30
Message: <5f4ab3de$1@news.povray.org>
A very deadly fellow, one should not trivialise it. I like the first 
image most. It looks most dangerous. I survived this beast with greatest 
luck (and an emergency surgery). I have no understanding for people 
ignoring the disease and demonstrating for not wearing masks as they do 
it at the moment at Berlin. To wear a mask is inconvenient but saves lifes.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 30 Aug 2020 11:21:23
Message: <5f4bc3f3$1@news.povray.org>
On 2020-08-29 4:00 PM (-4), MichaelJF wrote:
>  I survived this beast with greatest 
> luck (and an emergency surgery).

Glad you're still with us!

> I have no understanding for people 
> ignoring the disease and demonstrating for not wearing masks as they do 
> it at the moment at Berlin. To wear a mask is inconvenient but saves lifes.

There has been an anti-intellectual movement in the USA, being groomed 
for several decades now, and it is coming to fruition. Science, 
expertise, and critical thinking are viewed with suspicion, and even as 
satanic. In this state, facts no longer matter, and you can pour 
literally any idea into people's heads. I think the idea was, "Keep 'em 
stupid, and they'll vote for us."

The anti-intellectual dupes are a minority, less than 30%, but with a 
contagion like COVID-19, we need *everybody* to do their part, and the 
dupes are so pumped up with hyper-individualism that they can't see that 
they are killing everyone--or they don't care. (Hypocritically, these 
exact same people are happy to abandon individualism when it comes to 
forcing their religion on other people.)

One might think that this anti-intellectual project has been a failure. 
Alas, the well being of society has not been their goal; it has been to 
suck ever more money out of the workers, and in this respect it has been 
a spectacular success. The deaths of hundreds of thousands is not a 
problem; they have their money. And the dupes walk right up to the 
slaughter.

America is being dismantled before our eyes, all in the guise of saving 
it. As a German, this should scare the shit out of you.


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 30 Aug 2020 14:38:40
Message: <5f4bf230$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.08.2020 um 17:21 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
> On 2020-08-29 4:00 PM (-4), MichaelJF wrote:

> 
> Glad you're still with us!
> 
Thank you very much. I could breathe but only at the lowest level and 
only to just survive at the hight of the crisis. Fortunatelly no one sat 
on my throat for some eight minutes.
> 
> America is being dismantled before our eyes, all in the guise of saving 
> it. As a German, this should scare the shit out of you.

I have no idea what this phrase really means. An idiom lost in 
translation may be. The actual U.S. president speaks only for a white, 
male subpopulation of the U.S. and tries to regain his success from 2016 
by addressing this people only. He will not be a president to all 
american people ans was never.

Black Lives Matter!
Michael


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 31 Aug 2020 06:26:33
Message: <5f4cd059$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/30/20 2:38 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 30.08.2020 um 17:21 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
>> On 2020-08-29 4:00 PM (-4), MichaelJF wrote:

>>
>> Glad you're still with us!
>>
> Thank you very much. I could breathe but only at the lowest level and 
> only to just survive at the hight of the crisis. Fortunatelly no one sat 
> on my throat for some eight minutes.
>>
>> America is being dismantled before our eyes, all in the guise of 
>> saving it. As a German, this should scare the shit out of you.
> 
> I have no idea what this phrase really means. An idiom lost in 
> translation may be. The actual U.S. president speaks only for a white, 
> male subpopulation of the U.S. and tries to regain his success from 2016 
> by addressing this people only. He will not be a president to all 
> american people ans was never.
> 
> Black Lives Matter!
> Michael

shucks ... the ONE place i go to avoid stuff like this!!!


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 31 Aug 2020 14:01:26
Message: <5f4d3af6$1@news.povray.org>
> shucks ... the ONE place i go to avoid stuff like this!!!

Yes, I admit, I was too lazy to redirect it to the "off topic" section 
and I am it now. But politics are everywhere and have to be addressed 
everywhere. That is one of the basic rules of democracy. At the first 
sight POV is only a ray-tracer and politics doesn't seem to bother it. 
But: we create art-work with it. And we discuss this art-work here. 
Art-Work is political in most cases. As we have deniers of the 
corona-virus (especially the Nazis storming the German Bundestag at the 
08/29/2020) a picture of this virus is political.

You may mask this view since it is inconvenient to you. But be aware, 
the virus is no fake as first pronounced by a certain Mr. Trump.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 1 Sep 2020 06:08:38
Message: <5f4e1da6$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/31/20 2:01 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
>> shucks ... the ONE place i go to avoid stuff like this!!!
> 
> Yes, I admit, I was too lazy to redirect it to the "off topic" section 
> and I am it now. But politics are everywhere and have to be addressed 
> everywhere. That is one of the basic rules of democracy. At the first 
> sight POV is only a ray-tracer and politics doesn't seem to bother it. 
> But: we create art-work with it. And we discuss this art-work here. 
> Art-Work is political in most cases. As we have deniers of the 
> corona-virus (especially the Nazis storming the German Bundestag at the 
> 08/29/2020) a picture of this virus is political.
> 
> You may mask this view since it is inconvenient to you. But be aware, 
> the virus is no fake as first pronounced by a certain Mr. Trump.

just so you know ... i wasn't trying to provoke a response or 
challenging if you believe or don't. i come here to escape and now 
that's been tainted


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 2 Sep 2020 13:55:01
Message: <web.5f4fdbfa2c738f26d98418910@news.povray.org>
MichaelJF <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> A very deadly fellow, one should not trivialise it. I like the first
> image most. It looks most dangerous. I survived this beast with greatest
> luck (and an emergency surgery).

Glad to hear that you survived this scourge. So far, I've been lucky here in
Virginia in the U.S.-- by always wearing a mask around other people, and
'locking down' for months (at my age, it's just too dangerous to ignore the
warnings... or to listen to any of the politicized misinformation swirling
around.) Common sense will prevail, hopefully!

My general outlook is to see the humor in crazy situations-- so here's my
contribution :-) (but certainly not meant to trivialize it). No POV-Ray, just
some fun with Photoshop, combined with my astounding artistic skills(???). With
apologies to Toho Studios...

The Final Showdown!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SARS-COV2
Date: 3 Sep 2020 02:46:14
Message: <5f509136$1@news.povray.org>
Op 02/09/2020 om 19:52 schreef Kenneth:
> MichaelJF <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
>> A very deadly fellow, one should not trivialise it. I like the first
>> image most. It looks most dangerous. I survived this beast with greatest
>> luck (and an emergency surgery).
> 
> Glad to hear that you survived this scourge. So far, I've been lucky here in
> Virginia in the U.S.-- by always wearing a mask around other people, and
> 'locking down' for months (at my age, it's just too dangerous to ignore the
> warnings... or to listen to any of the politicized misinformation swirling
> around.) Common sense will prevail, hopefully!
> 
> My general outlook is to see the humor in crazy situations-- so here's my
> contribution :-) (but certainly not meant to trivialize it). No POV-Ray, just
> some fun with Photoshop, combined with my astounding artistic skills(???). With
> apologies to Toho Studios...
> 
> The Final Showdown!
> 

LOL!

I fully agree with you. Also, Michael, I am glad you survived this. I 
hope you do not suffer from too many after-effects; those do not seem 
trivial either. In NL we have been "relatively" lucky so far. The first 
wave mainly hit the southern half of the country (I live in the northern 
half) but the second wave seems to be more evenly spread with hot spots 
in the major towns. As long as (most) people follow as well as possible 
the official directives, it should be "manageable", but...

I have not yet felt the creative drive to come up with my own covid19 
POV-Ray scene ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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