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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Illegal Entry? (IRTC related)
Date: 23 Jun 2009 19:36:25
Message: <4a4166f9$1@news.povray.org>

> Here is a suggestion to help to filter painted images from truely computed.
> 
> What about a post-dead-line mandatory submission of nearly the same image, with a
> substitution, addition and/or removal with/of basic shape and texture, along with a
move
> of an existing object.
> 
> For instance, for your picture:

> vertical axis (either clockwise or counter, up to you)
>   2. Put a sheet of paper in front-side of fridge. To hold it, use either
> red/black/blue/yellow magnet (small cylinders are ok)
>     For extra bonus, the sheet of paper is the original picture. (not mandatory)
>   3. Put a duplicate of the cup, upside down, near the coffee-machine. Colours can
be changed.
> 
> Submitted second picture MUST match the original one, excepted for the requested
features.
> 
> It's a bit of work for the IRTC-men, but that way, basic collage/transformation of
format
> are still allowable, and painted become a pain to really win something (even
respect).
> 
> 
> 
> Real suggestion for your image: all the wooden doors are missing a knob...

Some other possible variations:
Change in the colour of one light source.
Change in the location of one or several light source(s).
Add or remove a light source.
Add a mirror somewhere where it's obviously visible.
If there is already a mirror, change it's location or orientation.
Move the camera around the scene.
If focal blur was used, remove it, if not, add it.


Alain


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Illegal Entry? (IRTC related)
Date: 24 Jun 2009 03:41:37
Message: <4a41d8b1$1@news.povray.org>
I don't know why  (of course I do!)  :-)

.... but this whole discussion about rules and such reminds me of how and 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_des_Ind%C3%A9pendants

Thomas


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Illegal Entry? (IRTC related)
Date: 24 Jun 2009 13:20:00
Message: <web.4a425b538f017c6b85627c70@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> I don't know why  (of course I do!)  :-)
>
> .... but this whole discussion about rules and such reminds me of how and

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_des_Ind%C3%A9pendants
>
> Thomas




....Also:
Many thanks to those who looked at the image carefully and thoughtfully enough
to offer positive criticism. (Since several people have noted that it can be
hard to tell with me, I wish to confirm that this is sincere and not sarcasm.)
The truth about this image is that it was created for the "Before & After"
round of the TC-RTC way back when.  As usual, I started on my actual entry way
too late after spending most of my time tinkering with various ideas that were
too ambitious to be finished on time and stopped work when the time ran out. At
this point, I would probably have to recover the source code from the contest
site* if I wanted to do further work on the image.  Since going back to an old
project would just add to my list of excuses for not concentrating on current
ones properly, that probably wouldn't be the such a great idea.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


* When folks list the various reasons for participating in events like the IRTC,
one positive aspect that is frequently overlooked is "free storage and backup".
I am often able to recover copies of images and their source code from contest
sites long after I have lost, deleted or misplaced every copy in my possession.
  ;-)


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