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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 04:04:13
Message: <56d2b80d@news.povray.org>
Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 04:15:14
Message: <56d2baa2$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/28/2016 9:04 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLs09J_x6-c

:-)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 04:51:54
Message: <56d2c33a@news.povray.org>
El 28/02/16 a las 10:04, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>

   Nice, feeling very peaceful and calm. Now go for the rush hour. ;)

   BTW, they have very wide streets there...

--
jaime


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 07:15:36
Message: <56d2e4e8@news.povray.org>
On 28-2-2016 10:15, Stephen wrote:
> On 2/28/2016 9:04 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLs09J_x6-c
>
> :-)
>


Oh dear! Memory Lane! :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 07:17:51
Message: <56d2e56f$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-2-2016 10:51, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 28/02/16 a las 10:04, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>>
>
>    Nice, feeling very peaceful and calm. Now go for the rush hour. ;)

That's the purpose.

>
>    BTW, they have very wide streets there...
>

This is some kind of 'Main Street' for this part of town ;-) The others 
are narrower.


-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 08:03:03
Message: <56d2f007$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/28/2016 12:15 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-2-2016 10:15, Stephen wrote:
>> On 2/28/2016 9:04 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLs09J_x6-c
>>
>> :-)
>>
>
>
> Oh dear! Memory Lane! :-)
>

Indeed. :-)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 10:05:00
Message: <web.56d30c0087520843b865121a0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.

Are you going to eventually increase the number of windows on those houses?


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 28 Feb 2016 22:18:30
Message: <56d3b886@news.povray.org>
Maybe there are too many thieves in Gancaloon, too many windows not a
good idea there...   >:D




On 28.02.2016 10:02, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Are you going to eventually increase the number of windows on those houses?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 00:08:02
Message: <56d3d232$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.02.2016 um 16:02 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
> 
> Are you going to eventually increase the number of windows on those houses?

I suspect they have neat atriums where people go if they do want some
sunlight.

You don't want to get all that desert sand into your bedroom and
kitchen, do you.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 01:15:01
Message: <web.56d3e1bc875208432ce3a0c30@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>
> --
> Thomas

It is beautiful. Have a lucky day.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 03:39:02
Message: <56d403a6$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-2-2016 16:02, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>
> Are you going to eventually increase the number of windows on those houses?
>
>

No. The houses are oriented inwards around an atrium. Streets are for 
moving around not for idly peep into you neighbours homes :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 06:08:25
Message: <56d426a9$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 28/02/2016 10.04:
> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>
A very pleasant scene. And I like a lot the trees.
;-)
Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 07:15:42
Message: <56d4366e$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-2-2016 12:08, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 28/02/2016 10.04:
>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>>
> A very pleasant scene. And I like a lot the trees.
> ;-)

Thank you Paolo. I am not yet satisfied with the trees. POVtree is 
sometimes hard to control and get what you really want, but I am slowly 
getting there.


-- 
Thomas


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 29 Feb 2016 12:07:29
Message: <56d47ad1$1@news.povray.org>
Yes, I tried POV-Tree, too, but don't know how to get what I want: a
main stem, curved towards one side, and branches getting out on the
other side. In fact, there is such a tree right in front of my home. :-)



On 29.02.2016 07:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 29-2-2016 12:08, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>> Thomas de Groot wrote on 28/02/2016 10.04:
>>> Sunday morning, while (almost) everybody is at the temple of Apollo.
>>>
>> A very pleasant scene. And I like a lot the trees.
>> ;-)
> 
> Thank you Paolo. I am not yet satisfied with the trees. POVtree is
> sometimes hard to control and get what you really want, but I am slowly
> getting there.
> 
>


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 1 Mar 2016 05:21:18
Message: <56d56d1e$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/29/2016 09:07 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Yes, I tried POV-Tree, too, but don't know how to get what I want: a
> main stem, curved towards one side, and branches getting out on the
> other side. In fact, there is such a tree right in front of my home. :-)
>

Speaking of oddly shaped trees...

There used to be a a famous tree in my locality (Ventura, California) -- locally
famous only, of 
course.  It was a palm tree, the kind that has a very tall, bare trunk, with bushy
fronds only 
at the top.  It was damaged in a storm many years ago and the top broke and fell over
at a right 
angle.  It didn't die, but continued to grow -- upward.  So it resembled this rough
ascii 
representation:

    _\|/_
      |
  ----
  |
  |
  |
  |
  |
  |

Although this diagram doesn't show it, they did add a diagonal brace to support that
original 
right-angle bend.  The street where it was located became named Crooked Palm Drive. 
Unfortunately, it didn't survive a more recent storm which broke the top completely. 
But it was 
a well-known local sight for something like 50-60 years.

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 1 Mar 2016 21:23:40
Message: <56d64eac$1@news.povray.org>
People who grow bonsai trees also intend to give weird, twisted, or
bizarre shapes to those special mini trees.




On 01.03.2016 05:21, Larry Hudson wrote:
> Speaking of oddly shaped trees...
> There used to be a a famous tree in my locality (Ventura, California) --
> locally famous only, of course.  It was a palm tree, the kind that has a
> very tall, bare trunk, with bushy fronds only at the top.  It was
> damaged in a storm many years ago and the top broke and fell over at a
> right angle.  It didn't die, but continued to grow -- upward.


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 1 Mar 2016 21:26:47
Message: <56d64f67@news.povray.org>
Some bonsai tree photos...




On 01.03.2016 21:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> People who grow bonsai trees also intend to give weird, twisted, or
> bizarre shapes to those special mini trees.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 01:25:57
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On 3/2/2016 2:26 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Some bonsai tree photos...
>
>
>
>
> On 01.03.2016 21:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> People who grow bonsai trees also intend to give weird, twisted, or
>> bizarre shapes to those special mini trees.


Links would be a better option in povray.binaries.images than posting 
photographs of plants.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 02:10:24
Message: <56d691e0$1@news.povray.org>
Am 02.03.2016 um 07:25 schrieb Stephen:
> On 3/2/2016 2:26 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Some bonsai tree photos...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01.03.2016 21:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>>> People who grow bonsai trees also intend to give weird, twisted, or
>>> bizarre shapes to those special mini trees.
> 
> 
> Links would be a better option in povray.binaries.images than posting
> photographs of plants.

That depends on whether the poster owns the copyright to the photographs
or at least has a license to distribute them (in which case posting them
in povray.binaries.images is somewhat ok, although we do prefer rendered
images), or whether he just copied them from arbitrary sources on the
internet without checking the terms of license (in which case he should
_recall the post IMMEDIATELY_[*]).

[* In German Thunderbird that would be done via the menu item
"Nachricht->Beitrag zurückziehen".]


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 03:41:58
Message: <56d6a756$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 7:10 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 02.03.2016 um 07:25 schrieb Stephen:
>> On 3/2/2016 2:26 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>>> Some bonsai tree photos...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01.03.2016 21:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>>>> People who grow bonsai trees also intend to give weird, twisted, or
>>>> bizarre shapes to those special mini trees.
>>
>>
>> Links would be a better option in povray.binaries.images than posting
>> photographs of plants.
>
> That depends on whether the poster owns the copyright to the photographs
> or at least has a license to distribute them (in which case posting them
> in povray.binaries.images is somewhat ok, although we do prefer rendered
> images), or whether he just copied them from arbitrary sources on the
> internet without checking the terms of license (in which case he should
> _recall the post IMMEDIATELY_[*]).
>

I didn't even think of copyright reasons. Bad person that I am.

I was thinking more along the lines of. Everyone I know, knows what a 
bonsai tree is. Why take up bandwidth and disk space?

I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 04:12:04
Message: <56d6ae64$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 3:41 AM, Stephen wrote:

> I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)

tweeeeeeeeeet      purrrrr
       Booooooooop      ga-honk ga-honk ga-honk


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 04:23:05
Message: <56d6b0f9$1@news.povray.org>
dick balaska wrote on 02/03/2016 10.12:
> On 3/2/2016 3:41 AM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)
>
> tweeeeeeeeeet      purrrrr
>        Booooooooop      ga-honk ga-honk ga-honk

Praeclara synthesis!
:D
Paolo


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 05:19:59
Message: <56d6be4f$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 9:23 AM, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> dick balaska wrote on 02/03/2016 10.12:
>> On 3/2/2016 3:41 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)
>>
>> tweeeeeeeeeet      purrrrr
>>        Booooooooop      ga-honk ga-honk ga-honk
>

Yip! That's the one. :-)

> Praeclara synthesis!
> :D

Deep and true.

But it did build the habit of frugality.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 09:48:42
Message: <56d6fd4a$1@news.povray.org>
Hi,

I showed these trees only, because of the special shape we spoke about
before. I wanted to show, what kind of shape I have in mind.

Besides, I didn't even know that it is possible to remove a sent
posting. Interesting. Learned something new. Will try it out, later today.






On 02.03.2016 05:19, Stephen wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 9:23 AM, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>> dick balaska wrote on 02/03/2016 10.12:
>>> On 3/2/2016 3:41 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)
>>>
>>> tweeeeeeeeeet      purrrrr
>>>        Booooooooop      ga-honk ga-honk ga-honk
>>
> 
> Yip! That's the one. :-)
> 
>> Praeclara synthesis!
>> :D
> 
> Deep and true.
> 
> But it did build the habit of frugality.
> 
>


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 11:10:01
Message: <web.56d7103e875208435e7df57c0@news.povray.org>
Nice, Thomas   :)
Do you have a map of sorts of Gancaloon, where all of your renders are located?

It would be neat to see them all collected and "globally positioned".


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 2 Mar 2016 15:43:07
Message: <56d7505b$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 9:48 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Hi,


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 3 Mar 2016 03:07:18
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On 2-3-2016 17:09, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Nice, Thomas   :)
> Do you have a map of sorts of Gancaloon, where all of your renders are located?
>
> It would be neat to see them all collected and "globally positioned".
>
>
>

Yes and no. I generally use an orthographic map render of the site, with 
axes and divisions to get my bearings. Generally, not everything is 
shown there, sometimes only with a simplified stand-in. This example 
dates back to 2013. While not up-to-date, it gives a fair approximation.

-- 
Thomas


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 3 Mar 2016 03:25:59
Message: <56d7f517$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/3/2016 3:07 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
 > [ Gancaloon_07.jpg]

Your jpg is broken.  I keep trying to click on it to zoom in, like on 
the amphitheater, and nothing happens.
;)

Interesting that the city fathers built the wall so far out, lots of 
room for expansion. Yet, there appears to be no homesteaders out of the 
city.  Surely, somebody is fed up with the local political bickering and 
moves out. Or farmers.

-- 
dik


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 3 Mar 2016 03:34:54
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On 3-3-2016 9:26, dick balaska wrote:
> On 3/3/2016 3:07 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>  > [ Gancaloon_07.jpg]
>
> Your jpg is broken.  I keep trying to click on it to zoom in, like on
> the amphitheater, and nothing happens.
> ;)

Have you tried a parachute? :-)

>
> Interesting that the city fathers built the wall so far out, lots of
> room for expansion. Yet, there appears to be no homesteaders out of the
> city.  Surely, somebody is fed up with the local political bickering and
> moves out. Or farmers.
>

In reality, there is a lot that needs development but it is true that 
part of the city has been abandoned, particularly at the eastern side.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 4 Mar 2016 23:58:29
Message: <56da6775@news.povray.org>
Here's that tree I spoke about. Hard to get such a result with a tree
software.






On 02.03.2016 09:48, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I showed these trees only, because of the special shape we spoke about
> before. I wanted to show, what kind of shape I have in mind.
> 
> Besides, I didn't even know that it is possible to remove a sent
> posting. Interesting. Learned something new. Will try it out, later today.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 02.03.2016 05:19, Stephen wrote:
>> On 3/2/2016 9:23 AM, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>>> dick balaska wrote on 02/03/2016 10.12:
>>>> On 3/2/2016 3:41 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I still remember the days of dial up. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> tweeeeeeeeeet      purrrrr
>>>>        Booooooooop      ga-honk ga-honk ga-honk
>>>
>>
>> Yip! That's the one. :-)
>>
>>> Praeclara synthesis!
>>> :D
>>
>> Deep and true.
>>
>> But it did build the habit of frugality.
>>
>>


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 5 Mar 2016 00:02:24
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I dislike it that way, because if someone quotes the very long text of
someone else, it is a lot of scrolling until I see the new text finally.
For me, not the old text a second time is more important, but to get
right away to the new text. But i guess, that liking depends on how a
software displays the threads and postings.






On 02.03.2016 15:43, dick balaska wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 9:48 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Hi,
> 
>


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 5 Mar 2016 03:25:14
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Am 05.03.2016 um 06:01 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> I dislike it that way, because if someone quotes the very long text of
> someone else, it is a lot of scrolling until I see the new text finally.
> For me, not the old text a second time is more important, but to get
> right away to the new text. But i guess, that liking depends on how a
> software displays the threads and postings.

While you may dislike it, it is customary here.
Which is a strong indicator that the majority of active users prefer the
reply to be below the quote.

Actually, the preferred format seems to be to interweave quotes and
replies, with the reply sections below the respective quoted sections
they refer to.

Also, long quotes are customarily trimmed down to the important portions
where applicable.


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 5 Mar 2016 04:07:25
Message: <56daa1cd$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/5/2016 12:01 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> I dislike it that way,

That says a lot about you.  You don't care how other people in the 
community interact; you don't listen; you don't observe.  Apparently, 
you only care how your posts appear to you.


-- 
dik


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 6 Mar 2016 13:22:02
Message: <56dc754a$1@news.povray.org>
Le 16-03-04 23:57, Sven Littkowski a écrit :
> Here's that tree I spoke about. Hard to get such a result with a tree
> software.
>
>
>
>

That tree did not grow like that by itself.
It wass trimmed several times on the street side.


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Gancaloon: sunday morning
Date: 6 Mar 2016 22:10:13
Message: <56dcf115@news.povray.org>
We need to avoid getting personal.

The way I see the messages of others is often this way, that I have to
scroll down long source code parts or text, before I finally reach the
part, that's interesting for me (new text). If i have ideas or
suggestions, I usually go ahead and use them, in order to show others
the ways I prefer. That has nothing to do that I don't care for others,
or that I fail to become average or a part of the majority.

I am attaching a screenshot that shows, how the posts are displayed. I
do not want to allow the Auto-Open feature (in regards to e-mail
viruses), thus this integrated view. And that shows, why I prefer older
text to be where it is not in the way for my writing.

If the need to keep old text at the top is really so strong, I will
follow these rules. It is just the more uncomfortable solution for myself.






On 05.03.2016 04:07, dick balaska wrote:
> On 3/5/2016 12:01 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> I dislike it that way,
> 
> That says a lot about you.  You don't care how other people in the
> community interact; you don't listen; you don't observe.  Apparently,
> you only care how your posts appear to you.
> 
>


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