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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 04:20:13
Message: <537db33d@news.povray.org>
For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do 
you think?

Thomas


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 05:39:23
Message: <537dc5cb$1@news.povray.org>
Le 22/05/2014 10:19, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
> you think?
> 
> Thomas

Nice.
A bit too much peeled, assuming the paint is red.
The cracks are fine.
can you reduce the white big area, while keeping the cracks ?


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 07:08:56
Message: <537ddac8@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2014 11:39, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Nice.
> A bit too much peeled, assuming the paint is red.
> The cracks are fine.
> can you reduce the white big area, while keeping the cracks ?
>

The code is a bit messy at present, but I work towards a macro that will 
enable the whole range. For instance this image.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 07:39:12
Message: <537de1e0@news.povray.org>
A first version of the macro would yield this.

Thomas


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 10:05:00
Message: <537e040c$1@news.povray.org>
Le 22/05/2014 13:38, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> A first version of the macro would yield this.
> 
> Thomas

lovely.

The red is paint... crackling, peeling. So real.

The green might be interesting for moss if a quick gradient is available
at the boundary... give me a finger, I take the whole arm!

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 22 May 2014 10:25:15
Message: <537e08cb@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2014 16:05, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> lovely.
>
> The red is paint... crackling, peeling. So real.
>
> The green might be interesting for moss if a quick gradient is available
> at the boundary... give me a finger, I take the whole arm!
>

My final macro (for the time being?) gives the following output. Paint 
can be peeled from 0 to 100%.

I shall post the macro in p.b.s-f. Usage is included.

Enjoy!

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 23 May 2014 03:07:39
Message: <537ef3bb$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2014 16:05, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> The green might be interesting for moss if a quick gradient is available
> at the boundary... give me a finger, I take the whole arm!
>

To me, moss would need a different kind of macro...

I have not done it (yet) but you might want to use the macro in 
combination with a proximity pattern.

Thomas


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 23 May 2014 14:15:00
Message: <web.537f8f6b606e4229192ae5f10@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
> you think?

The cracking looks great.  It doesn't look like it's peeling, though.  (PeelED,
yes; peelING, no.)


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 23 May 2014 14:34:26
Message: <537f94b2$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/05/14 19:11, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
>> you think?
> 
> The cracking looks great.  It doesn't look like it's peeling, though.  (PeelED,
> yes; peelING, no.)
> 
> 
So, improve it. Thomas has given us a starting position.

Don't criticise, improve

John
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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 23 May 2014 15:05:01
Message: <web.537f9b26606e4229192ae5f10@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 23/05/14 19:11, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> > Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> >> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
> >> you think?
> >
> > The cracking looks great.  It doesn't look like it's peeling, though.  (PeelED,
> > yes; peelING, no.)
> >
> >
> So, improve it. Thomas has given us a starting position.
>
> Don't criticise, improve

Thomas asked us what we think; what was I supposed to say?  In order to improve,
one must know what to improve.  But the way I saw it, this is Thomas's texture,
and I was leaving it up to him to carry it in whatever direction he desires.

Racking my brain a bit, I recalled the cracked mud in "Age of Innocence"
(Cathy's World).  Perhaps the peeling effect in that texture can somehow be
merged with the cracked paint texture.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 23 May 2014 16:09:09
Message: <537faae5$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/05/2014 20:01, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas asked us what we think; what was I supposed to say?

Yes, to me it is peeled. Peeling needs another dimension. It is very 
good as Thomas's textures generally are.

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 07:08:27
Message: <53807dab$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2014 20:11, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
>> you think?
>
> The cracking looks great.  It doesn't look like it's peeling, though.  (PeelED,
> yes; peelING, no.)
>
>
Aaahh... I would like it to /peel/ indeed, but how? The peeling should 
follow the texture. I have experimented with some mesh generation but 
that remains totally unconvincing.

Your mention of Age of Innocence is correct but that will not work here 
and it only concerns the cracking not the peeling.

I need somebody smart... ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 07:10:12
Message: <53807e14$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2014 22:09, Stephen wrote:
> On 23/05/2014 20:01, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> Thomas asked us what we think; what was I supposed to say?
>
> Yes, to me it is peeled. Peeling needs another dimension. It is very
> good as Thomas's textures generally are.
>

Thanks Stephen. As said above, the peeling is the most difficult part 
and I do not know how to do that presently. However, I am quite 
satisfied with the texture :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 07:12:37
Message: <53807ea5$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2014 20:34, Doctor John wrote:
> On 23/05/14 19:11, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> The cracking looks great.  It doesn't look like it's peeling, though.  (PeelED,
>> yes; peelING, no.)
>>
>>
> So, improve it. Thomas has given us a starting position.
>
> Don't criticise, improve
>

It is a challenge for all of us ;-)

Somehow, I am certain there is somebody somewhere who would know exactly 
what to do...

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture: Urbex wip
Date: 24 May 2014 07:39:47
Message: <53808503@news.povray.org>
It is maybe a bit too soon, but I would like to show what the texture is 
presently used for.

I have taken as a working basis a photograph by Urbex (Urban 
Exploration) photographer Daanoe (http://www.daanoe.nl/en/): German 
Hospital aka Red.

The scene is heavily under construction, not in the least because 
degradation of structures is quite difficult to achieve in a natural 
looking way.

Staircase, outside pavement, and outside wall, are macros by Chris B. 
The building is mesh2 using Silo.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 09:01:30
Message: <5380982a$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/05/2014 12:10, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 23-5-2014 22:09, Stephen wrote:
>> On 23/05/2014 20:01, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>> Thomas asked us what we think; what was I supposed to say?
>>
>> Yes, to me it is peeled. Peeling needs another dimension. It is very
>> good as Thomas's textures generally are.
>>
>
> Thanks Stephen. As said above, the peeling is the most difficult part
> and I do not know how to do that presently. However, I am quite
> satisfied with the texture :-)
>

Well it is a texture and it looks great in your hospital image.
We cannot expect lifting and curling of a surface to be more than an 
impression unless the surface is actually uneven. Normals help but 
shadows and edges give the game away.
Your texture works perfectly in your dilapidated hospital.


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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 10:11:35
Message: <5380a897$1@news.povray.org>
On 24-5-2014 15:01, Stephen wrote:
> Well it is a texture and it looks great in your hospital image.
> We cannot expect lifting and curling of a surface to be more than an
> impression unless the surface is actually uneven. Normals help but
> shadows and edges give the game away.
> Your texture works perfectly in your dilapidated hospital.
>
>
Indeed. And yet, as I constantly compare the image with the original, I 
feel the need for curling edges, especially where you expect their 
shadows to be. I would like to go beyond the texture.

Maybe I should do something with EvalPig()... I am stuck, no doubt about 
it :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 24 May 2014 12:34:40
Message: <5380ca20$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/05/2014 15:11, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 24-5-2014 15:01, Stephen wrote:
>> Well it is a texture and it looks great in your hospital image.
>> We cannot expect lifting and curling of a surface to be more than an
>> impression unless the surface is actually uneven. Normals help but
>> shadows and edges give the game away.
>> Your texture works perfectly in your dilapidated hospital.
>>
>>
> Indeed. And yet, as I constantly compare the image with the original, I
> feel the need for curling edges, especially where you expect their
> shadows to be. I would like to go beyond the texture.
>
> Maybe I should do something with EvalPig()... I am stuck, no doubt about
> it :-)
>

I don't see how it can be faked. The Mesh route is too mich, I think.
Do you think that it would be possible to throw triangles at it using trace?


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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 25 May 2014 03:27:30
Message: <53819b62$1@news.povray.org>
On 24-5-2014 18:34, Stephen wrote:
> I don't see how it can be faked. The Mesh route is too mich, I think.
> Do you think that it would be possible to throw triangles at it using
> trace?
>

Faking is impossible indeed as far as I can judge. As a prove of 
concept, I have written a macro that draws little triangles randomly 
down from a surface, but that is totally ugly. I wonder how one could 
trace the paint boundary and place little pre-made peels of paint there, 
correctly oriented of course ;-)

Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 4 Jun 2014 07:32:00
Message: <538f03b0@news.povray.org>
>Thomas de Groot  on date 22/05/2014 10.19 wrote:
> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
> you think?
>
> Thomas
Nice texture, It remembers somehow the one I used for an old IRTC entry. 
My start point was a tutorial of Alex Ivanov (the link seems to be no 
longer active).
;-)
Paolo

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#declare t_stone=texture{
	pigment{
         granite
         color_map {
            [0.0 rgb<0.67, 0.50, 0.32>]
            [1.0 rgb<0.94, 0.88, 0.79>]
         }
         turbulence 0.75
         ramp_wave
         scale  0.01
	}
}

#declare t_grunge_wall=	texture{pigment{color rgbt <0.8,0.8,1,1>}}
	texture{
	    pigment {
	        granite
	        color_map {
	            [0.0 rgbt <0.60, 0.60, 0.60, 0.005>]
	            [0.4 rgbt <0.70, 0.70, 0.70, 0.007>]
	            [0.5 rgbt <0.70, 0.70, 0.70,1>]
	            [0.6 rgbt <0.50, 0.50, 0.50,1>]
	            [1.0 rgbt <0.60, 0.60, 0.60,1>]
			}
		}
		normal{
			granite 1.2
		}
	}
	texture{
	    pigment {
	        granite
	        color_map {
	            [0.0 rgbt <0.60, 0.55, 0.50, 0.005>]
	            [0.4 rgbt <0.70, 0.60, 0.50, 0.007>]
	            [0.5 rgbt <0.70, 0.65, 0.60,1>]
	            [0.6 rgbt <0.50, 0.45, 0.40,1>]
	            [1.0 rgbt <0.60, 0.55, 0.50,1>]
			}
		}
		normal{
			granite 0.6
		}
		rotate 20*z
		scale 0.1
	}

#declare t_grunge_moss=texture{
	pigment{
		bumps
         color_map {
             [0.0 rgbt <0.11, 0.29, 0.02, 0.31>]
             [0.4 rgbt <0.03, 0.15, 0.00, 0.32>]
             [0.45 rgbt <0.03, 0.20, 0.00, 0.32>]
             [0.5 rgbt <0.11, 0.25, 0.00, 1>]
             [0.6 rgbt <0.03, 0.19, 0.08, 0.8>]
             [1.0 rgbt <0.11, 0.29, 0.02, 0.9>]
		}
		turbulence 1.5
	}
	normal {
		bumps 0.6
		turbulence 1.5
	}
	scale .04
}

#declare t_final=	texture{t_stone}
			texture{t_grunge_wall}
			texture{t_grunge_moss}


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 4 Jun 2014 17:30:01
Message: <538f8fd9$2@news.povray.org>
Am 04.06.2014 13:31, schrieb Paolo Gibellini:
>  >Thomas de Groot  on date 22/05/2014 10.19 wrote:
>> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture. What do
>> you think?
>>
>> Thomas
> Nice texture, It remembers somehow the one I used for an old IRTC entry.
> My start point was a tutorial of Alex Ivanov (the link seems to be no
> longer active).
> ;-)

Now that's one living breathing texture.


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Peeling paint texture
Date: 9 Jun 2014 06:12:58
Message: <539588aa@news.povray.org>
>clipka  on date 04/06/2014 23.29 wrote:
> Am 04.06.2014 13:31, schrieb Paolo Gibellini:
>>  >Thomas de Groot  on date 22/05/2014 10.19 wrote:
>>> For a new scene, I have been working on a peeling paint texture.
> Now that's one living breathing texture.
>
Thank you!
;-)
Paolo


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