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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Manna Machine
Date: 15 Aug 2013 18:46:44
Message: <520d5a54@news.povray.org>
One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 19 Aug 2013 16:10:02
Message: <web.52127b5f370ffe57052cdec0@news.povray.org>
James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!

Well I like it, James. I'm looking forward to subsequent versions. Are you going
to keep the black & white retro look?

Has anyone ever built one of these in RL?

Sam


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 19 Aug 2013 16:30:01
Message: <web.52127f99370ffe57052cdec0@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Has anyone ever built one of these in RL?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_Machine
"It is said by Sassoon and Dale that a nuclear reactor used to power the manna
machine was stored in the Ark of the Covenant."

It sounds dangerous to be playing with radiactive materials... like piling them
up to get a larger reaction. It was said that Moses' face was tanned (highly
bronzed) after speaking to God... I hope that thing was made out of a very dense
metal, like lead, or gold....


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 04:15:30
Message: <521325a2$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-8-2013 0:46, James Holsenback wrote:
> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!

Awesome!

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 04:17:51
Message: <5213262f$1@news.povray.org>
On 19-8-2013 22:27, Samuel Benge wrote:
> "Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Has anyone ever built one of these in RL?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_Machine
> "It is said by Sassoon and Dale that a nuclear reactor used to power the manna
> machine was stored in the Ark of the Covenant."
>
> It sounds dangerous to be playing with radiactive materials... like piling them
> up to get a larger reaction. It was said that Moses' face was tanned (highly
> bronzed) after speaking to God... I hope that thing was made out of a very dense
> metal, like lead, or gold....
>

Now I begin to wonder what they are doing in Iran...

Thomas


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 06:37:20
Message: <521346e0$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/19/2013 04:27 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
> "Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Has anyone ever built one of these in RL?

not that I know of ... supposedly that's what the Jews used to produce 
food for the journey across the desert. legend of course as far as I'm 
concerned.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_Machine
> "It is said by Sassoon and Dale that a nuclear reactor used to power the manna
> machine was stored in the Ark of the Covenant."

yes and we all know what happened to that soldier when he opened the lid 
... good thing dr jones closed his eye's

>
> It sounds dangerous to be playing with radiactive materials... like piling them
> up to get a larger reaction. It was said that Moses' face was tanned (highly
> bronzed) after speaking to God... I hope that thing was made out of a very dense
> metal, like lead, or gold....
>

the recovered device has been moved to the lab and cleaned up ... still 
can't find the on/off switch ;-)


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 06:38:59
Message: <52134743$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/20/2013 04:15 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 16-8-2013 0:46, James Holsenback wrote:
>> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!
>
> Awesome!
>
> Thomas

thanks ... lol looks a bit like something that you'd expect see on dr 
who ... eh!


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 16:37:24
Message: <5213d384$1@news.povray.org>
Le 13-08-19 16:27, Samuel Benge a écrit :
> "Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Has anyone ever built one of these in RL?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_Machine
> "It is said by Sassoon and Dale that a nuclear reactor used to power the manna
> machine was stored in the Ark of the Covenant."
>
> It sounds dangerous to be playing with radiactive materials... like piling them
> up to get a larger reaction. It was said that Moses' face was tanned (highly
> bronzed) after speaking to God... I hope that thing was made out of a very dense
> metal, like lead, or gold....
>

About 20 to 30 years ago, it seems that some students started to build a 
scaled down reproduction of the Ark by following the description from 
the bible.

BEFORE it was finished, they where forced to stop. It apparently 
accumulated/generated some rather dangerous electric potential.


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 20 Aug 2013 18:05:36
Message: <op.w14ybif2ufxv4h@xena>
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:46:30 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>  
wrote:

> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!

This would look great with steam-punk textures :)
-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 21 Aug 2013 03:31:38
Message: <52146cda$1@news.povray.org>
On 20-8-2013 22:37, Alain wrote:
>
> About 20 to 30 years ago, it seems that some students started to build a
> scaled down reproduction of the Ark by following the description from
> the bible.
>
> BEFORE it was finished, they where forced to stop. It apparently
> accumulated/generated some rather dangerous electric potential.

Now, that is what I would call an /Urban Legend/ ;-)

Thomas


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 23 Aug 2013 17:28:17
Message: <5217d3f1@news.povray.org>
On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
> can't find the on/off switch ;-)

apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the 
control rods on the reactor.


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 24 Aug 2013 01:41:07
Message: <52184773$1@news.povray.org>
Le 23/08/2013 23:28, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
> 
> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
> control rods on the reactor.
> 
Wooow!

could you just top the exit of the smoke/steam with some
recorder/whistle: not for the sound, but to justify the visual split in
3 of the stream (which is just perfect). So far it's look like an open
pipe, and there is no reason for such steam out of an open pipe.


Next slow down: area light to soften the shadow on the grey wall. :-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 24 Aug 2013 02:43:20
Message: <52185608$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-8-2013 23:28, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
>
> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
> control rods on the reactor.
>

AOI is doing very fine on this machine.

Thomas


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 24 Aug 2013 07:52:09
Message: <52189e69$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/24/2013 01:41 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 23/08/2013 23:28, James Holsenback nous fit lire :
>> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
>>
>> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
>> control rods on the reactor.
>>
> Wooow!
>
> could you just top the exit of the smoke/steam with some
> recorder/whistle: not for the sound, but to justify the visual split in
> 3 of the stream (which is just perfect). So far it's look like an open
> pipe, and there is no reason for such steam out of an open pipe.

Steam is just a 1st stab at something at something coming out the 
exhaust pipe ... according to the description it could be either steam 
or a flame. Leaning towards steam, but hey that could change.

> Next slow down: area light to soften the shadow on the grey wall. :-)

made a 1st pass try with area lighting but the scattering media in steam 
slowed it waaaaay down. thinking about a slightly reflective backdrop to 
try to get a view of the back of the machine.


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 24 Aug 2013 07:55:44
Message: <52189f40$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/24/2013 02:43 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 23-8-2013 23:28, James Holsenback wrote:
>> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
>>
>> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
>> control rods on the reactor.
>>
>
> AOI is doing very fine on this machine.

actually I used irid ... played around with wave length in globals, then 
thickness in the finish side. i /really/ like irid on metal finishes


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 28 Aug 2013 10:33:42
Message: <521e0a46@news.povray.org>
On 08/23/2013 05:28 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
>
> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
> control rods on the reactor.
>

after running for a couple of days, everything green turned blue, then 
the exhaust changed to a more dense fog-like substance that sank to the 
floor


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From: Fractracer
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 28 Aug 2013 19:35:01
Message: <web.521e8839370ffe5e9f5ed2c0@news.povray.org>
James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> On 08/23/2013 05:28 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> > On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
> >> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
> >
> > apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
> > control rods on the reactor.
> >
>
> after running for a couple of days, everything green turned blue, then
> the exhaust changed to a more dense fog-like substance that sank to the
> floor

Great image, I like this machine.


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 28 Aug 2013 23:15:08
Message: <521ebcbc$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/28/2013 07:31 PM, Fractracer wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>> On 08/23/2013 05:28 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> On 08/20/2013 06:37 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>>> can't find the on/off switch ;-)
>>>
>>> apparently there isn't one ... just pulled (only a little) one of the
>>> control rods on the reactor.
>>>
>>
>> after running for a couple of days, everything green turned blue, then
>> the exhaust changed to a more dense fog-like substance that sank to the
>> floor
>
> Great image, I like this machine.
>

Thanks ... I like this set up too, but I think I can do better with the 
ground fog. Scattering media /should/ yield better results over fog ... 
it's just tedious getting it right.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 29 Aug 2013 03:25:32
Message: <521ef76c$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-8-2013 16:33, James Holsenback wrote:
> after running for a couple of days, everything green turned blue, then
> the exhaust changed to a more dense fog-like substance that sank to the
> floor

I like it, except the exhaust which somehow does not seem right to my 
eyes. A somewhat stronger scattering media would do the trick I presume.

Thomas


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 1 Feb 2014 08:27:12
Message: <52ecf630@news.povray.org>
On 08/20/2013 06:05 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:46:30 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>
> wrote:
>
>> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!
>
> This would look great with steam-punk textures :)

still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 1 Feb 2014 08:40:54
Message: <52ecf966$1@news.povray.org>
On 1-2-2014 14:24, James Holsenback wrote:
> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!

A beautiful piece of /ancient/ engineering :-)

Thomas


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 1 Feb 2014 10:39:46
Message: <52ed1542$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/01/2014 08:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 1-2-2014 14:24, James Holsenback wrote:
>> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!
>
> A beautiful piece of /ancient/ engineering :-)
>
> Thomas

hey thanks ... i'm having fun going over some older scenes and 
uber-izing them! well also applying some new techniques i've learned 
along the way ... lol i /have/ to break out of this "metal" tendency 
that i've had lately ;-)


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 2 Feb 2014 21:25:02
Message: <52eefdfe@news.povray.org>
On 02/01/2014 08:24 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!

See my blog post for final image:
http://jholsenback.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-manna-machine/

full sized image makes a cool 16x9 aspect wallpaper


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From: Sean Day
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 3 Feb 2014 04:55:30
Message: <52ef6792$1@news.povray.org>
James Holsenback wrote:
> On 02/01/2014 08:24 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!
>
> See my blog post for final image:
> http://jholsenback.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-manna-machine/
>
> full sized image makes a cool 16x9 aspect wallpaper
>

A very nice image, I like the focus on a specific colour (one of my 
votes for the next tc-rtc is actually for the colour theme (cannot 
remember if it was blue or green though) and of course the shiny metal 
texture us great.

Sean


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 3 Feb 2014 05:22:05
Message: <52ef6dcd$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/03/2014 04:55 AM, Sean Day wrote:
> James Holsenback wrote:
>> On 02/01/2014 08:24 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!
>>
>> See my blog post for final image:
>> http://jholsenback.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-manna-machine/
>>
>> full sized image makes a cool 16x9 aspect wallpaper
>>
>
> A very nice image, I like the focus on a specific colour (one of my
> votes for the next tc-rtc is actually for the colour theme (cannot
> remember if it was blue or green though) and of course the shiny metal
> texture us great.

thanks ... i went through more than several color combinations before 
arriving at my "study of blue"

also like the juxtaposition of ancient technology in a sci-fi setting


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 3 Feb 2014 13:10:00
Message: <web.52efda73370ffe5192ae5f10@news.povray.org>
James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!

Uber nice!


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Manna Machine
Date: 3 Feb 2014 14:28:51
Message: <op.xap0ebi4ufxv4h@xena>
On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 15:24:49 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>  
wrote:

> On 08/20/2013 06:05 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:46:30 +0200, James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One or two more things to add to the "machine" ... textures next!
>>
>> This would look great with steam-punk textures :)
>
> still need to do a "beauty" run ... but I /do/ like this setup better!

Bleautiful!

-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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