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While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
adapted - the one by Sean Day.
Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
superposition involved.
Still, I thought I would share with you.
Thomas
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On 22/05/2013 3:37 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
I am glad that you did it is impressive.
As for scale I don't think that is a problem. Geology is fractal and the
way that the scale of the image changes, as you focus on the eagle, is
as real as looking at some photographs in National Geographic.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Le 13-05-22 10:37, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
> Thomas
The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
Alain
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Nice scene, Thomas; it shows promise. The cracked appearance of the landscape is
neat. Combined with the gas cloud, one gets the impression that this terrain is
relatively new.
Sam
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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degroot org> wrote:
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
Hi Thomas,
This is a great image, I like the eagle and think it definitely adds to the
image. Good use of a bit of media as well. Well worth entering it into the
competition.
I had not heard of geocontrol before, it looks pretty good, most of the images
in the gallery would make good entries to the elements of geology round.
Sean
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On 23-5-2013 0:20, s.day wrote:
> This is a great image, I like the eagle and think it definitely adds to the
> image. Good use of a bit of media as well. Well worth entering it into the
> competition.
Thanks Sean. I think I shall tweak a couple of little things before
rendering a bigger image for the Challenge.
>
> I had not heard of geocontrol before, it looks pretty good, most of the images
> in the gallery would make good entries to the elements of geology round.
It is an excellent program. I do not own the latest version which is
still better, but it makes for very realistic landscapes. It also is
relatively cheap.
Thomas
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On 22-5-2013 23:09, Samuel Benge wrote:
> Nice scene, Thomas; it shows promise. The cracked appearance of the landscape is
> neat. Combined with the gas cloud, one gets the impression that this terrain is
> relatively new.
Thanks Sam. I also liked the cracked erosional features. I am still not
sure about the /type/ of landscape represented. As you say, it could be
young and volcanic or, as I first thought, a kind of erosional sink
hole. In both cases, I might need to change the texture ;-)
Thomas
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On 22-5-2013 21:44, Alain wrote:
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> The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
>
Ah! Thanks Alain. That was the intention but I feel as if the relative
sizes are in conflict. Maybe I need a little feature on the terrain to
emphasize the contrast and/or a bit of atmospheric media. I shall try
one or another.
Thomas
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On 22-5-2013 17:54, Stephen wrote:
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> I am glad that you did it is impressive.
Thanks Stephen. It hit me immediately while fussing around with the
camera position.
> As for scale I don't think that is a problem. Geology is fractal and the
> way that the scale of the image changes, as you focus on the eagle, is
> as real as looking at some photographs in National Geographic.
Yes, I thought so too and NG came to my mind ;-) I probably need to work
a bit more on the issue though...
Thomas
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>Thomas de Groot on date 22/05/2013 16.37 wrote:
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
> Thomas
It is a splendid image, and for the eagle... could be Gwaihir returning
home after rescuing Gandalf :-P?
GeoControl seems interesting. It's simpler to use respect to Terragen?
Paolo
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On 23-5-2013 10:17, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
It is a splendid image, and for the eagle... could be Gwaihir returning
> home after rescuing Gandalf :-P?
Thank you Paolo. Yes, maybe Gwaihir, although I don't believe that was a
'bald' eagle... ;-)
>
> GeoControl seems interesting. It's simpler to use respect to Terragen?
It is very different from Terragen indeed, but certainly extremely
simple to use. One of its main assets is that it enables you to work
with 'layers', i.e. different separate terrains which can then be
averaged, added, multiplied, etc. Also the large sizes to be used is
good. Up to 4096x4096. The present image is based on a 1024x1024 tga
height_field map.
Thomas
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:51 +0200, Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg>
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> On 22-5-2013 21:44, Alain wrote:
>>
>> The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
>>
>
> Ah! Thanks Alain. That was the intention but I feel as if the relative
> sizes are in conflict. Maybe I need a little feature on the terrain to
> emphasize the contrast and/or a bit of atmospheric media.
How about a lone bush or a dead tree?
--
-Nekar Xenos-
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Off to a good start. Would appear more ominous, perhaps with a road or some
other sign of endangered life present.
-Shay
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On 23-5-2013 23:58, Shay wrote:
> Off to a good start. Would appear more ominous, perhaps with a road or
> some other sign of endangered life present.
>
Thanks. I am exploring different options...
Thomas
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Some changes and a couple of additions (for you to find).
I think this is about the final stage. I feel that I should not work
much more on this.
Thomas
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An interesting alternative
Thomas
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On 24/05/2013 12:23 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Some changes and a couple of additions (for you to find).
>
> I think this is about the final stage. I feel that I should not work
> much more on this.
>
I hate to say it bit I prefer the mist in the first image.
The texture of the eagle is better in the second one and your other
things have been designed intelligently to evolve good camouflage. ;-)
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Stephen
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On 24-5-2013 15:56, Stephen wrote:
> I hate to say it bit I prefer the mist in the first image.
I lost the first :-(
> The texture of the eagle is better in the second one and your other
> things have been designed intelligently to evolve good camouflage. ;-)
>
Yes, the original eagle wings were wrongly textured by Poser, so I had
to go back to nature. Still have to do something about the tail.
Thomas
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On 24/05/2013 2:55 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> An interesting alternative
>
It is in Bolivar. Some one has dropped his marching powder. :-P
I like this too.
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Stephen
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On 24/05/2013 3:41 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 24-5-2013 15:56, Stephen wrote:
>> I hate to say it bit I prefer the mist in the first image.
>
> I lost the first :-(
>
The way of the World, I'm afraid.
>> The texture of the eagle is better in the second one and your other
>> things have been designed intelligently to evolve good camouflage. ;-)
>>
> Yes, the original eagle wings were wrongly textured by Poser, so I had
> to go back to nature. Still have to do something about the tail.
>
That does happen.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Wonderful work again!
Like Stephen I prefer the first version of the smoke but the second version of
the stone texture. The eagle gives the scale to the picture so I can see no
scaling problem. May it be Gwaihir, who must have the size of a condor at least.
But he still has blueish tail feathers which is not natural I think. On the
other hand you need to contrast the bird against the brown texture of the
stones. With the more or less brown feathers of a golden eagle you cannot get
this contrast. The black feathers makes the bird recognizable and may be this is
the best compromise. But due to this issue I liked your first picture better.
Why not have a fantasy eagle with blue-green feathers as with the first picture?
Best regards,
Michael
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Everything considered, this would be the result.
Thomas
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Don't know if it's a difference in our monitors or our tastes, but "levels >
auto" in Gimp brings out rich colors and details I didn't notice before.
-Shay
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From: "Thomas de Groot" <tho### [at] degrootorg>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:13 AM
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology: Take 4
> Everything considered, this would be the result.
>
> Thomas
>
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On 27-5-2013 14:40, Shay wrote:
> Don't know if it's a difference in our monitors or our tastes, but
> "levels >
> auto" in Gimp brings out rich colors and details I didn't notice before.
>
Well, /that/ completely changes the image :-) What it does is giving
more contrast to the colours it seems.
Nice, but I am not sure if I like that more, though...
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Everything considered, this would be the result.
>
> Thomas
Definitely an improvement. I think the texture on the rock and eagle are
better. Funny I only noticed the animals (deer I assume) on this image
and had to look back to see when you added them. Say's a lot about my
powers of observation.
Sean
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