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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:01:57
Message: <519dbee5@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2013 0:20, s.day wrote:
> This is a great image, I like the eagle and think it definitely adds to the
> image. Good use of a bit of media as well. Well worth entering it into the
> competition.

Thanks Sean. I think I shall tweak a couple of little things before 
rendering a bigger image for the Challenge.

>
> I had not heard of geocontrol before, it looks pretty good, most of the images
> in the gallery would make good entries to the elements of geology round.

It is an excellent program. I do not own the latest version which is 
still better, but it makes for very realistic landscapes. It also is 
relatively cheap.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:04:54
Message: <519dbf96$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 23:09, Samuel Benge wrote:
> Nice scene, Thomas; it shows promise. The cracked appearance of the landscape is
> neat. Combined with the gas cloud, one gets the impression that this terrain is
> relatively new.

Thanks Sam. I also liked the cracked erosional features. I am still not 
sure about the /type/ of landscape represented. As you say, it could be 
young and volcanic or, as I first thought, a kind of erosional sink 
hole. In both cases, I might need to change the texture ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:07:56
Message: <519dc04c$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 21:44, Alain wrote:
>
> The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
>

Ah! Thanks Alain. That was the intention but I feel as if the relative 
sizes are in conflict. Maybe I need a little feature on the terrain to 
emphasize the contrast and/or a bit of atmospheric media. I shall try 
one or another.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:10:45
Message: <519dc0f5$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 17:54, Stephen wrote:
>
> I am glad that you did it is impressive.

Thanks Stephen. It hit me immediately while fussing around with the 
camera position.

> As for scale I don't think that is a problem. Geology is fractal and the
> way that the scale of the image changes, as you focus on the eagle, is
> as real as looking at some photographs in National Geographic.

Yes, I thought so too and NG came to my mind ;-) I probably need to work 
a bit more on the issue though...

Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 04:17:24
Message: <519dd094$1@news.povray.org>
>Thomas de Groot  on date 22/05/2013 16.37 wrote:
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
> Thomas
It is a splendid image, and for the eagle... could be Gwaihir returning 
home after rescuing Gandalf :-P?

GeoControl seems interesting. It's simpler to use respect to Terragen?

Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 07:29:16
Message: <519dfd8c$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2013 10:17, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
  It is a splendid image, and for the eagle... could be Gwaihir returning
> home after rescuing Gandalf :-P?

Thank you Paolo. Yes, maybe Gwaihir, although I don't believe that was a 
'bald' eagle... ;-)

>
> GeoControl seems interesting. It's simpler to use respect to Terragen?

It is very different from Terragen indeed, but certainly extremely 
simple to use. One of its main assets is that it enables you to work 
with 'layers', i.e. different separate terrains which can then be 
averaged, added, multiplied, etc. Also the large sizes to be used is 
good. Up to 4096x4096. The present image is based on a 1024x1024 tga 
height_field map.

Thomas


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 15:31:00
Message: <op.wxjxturtufxv4h@xena>
On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:51 +0200, Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg>  
wrote:

> On 22-5-2013 21:44, Alain wrote:
>>
>> The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
>>
>
> Ah! Thanks Alain. That was the intention but I feel as if the relative  
> sizes are in conflict. Maybe I need a little feature on the terrain to  
> emphasize the contrast and/or a bit of atmospheric media.

How about a lone bush or a dead tree?



-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 17:59:02
Message: <519e9126@news.povray.org>
Off to a good start. Would appear more ominous, perhaps with a road or some 
other sign of endangered life present.

 -Shay


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 24 May 2013 03:13:08
Message: <519f1304@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2013 23:58, Shay wrote:
> Off to a good start. Would appear more ominous, perhaps with a road or
> some other sign of endangered life present.
>

Thanks. I am exploring different options...

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology: Take 2
Date: 24 May 2013 07:23:36
Message: <519f4db8@news.povray.org>
Some changes and a couple of additions (for you to find).

I think this is about the final stage. I feel that I should not work 
much more on this.

Thomas


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