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At the TC-RTC Challenge /Garden/ I uploaded a view of the private garden
of the Sultana, in the imperial city of Neoilion.
http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/418/The_Secret_Garden.html
We had not yet had the honour to be presented to her imperial majesty,
but recently we were summoned from Gancaloon to make her portrait.
This is a first one. Unfortunately, the Sultana was not yet really
satisfied with our work and commanded us to make some necessary
corrections. She found herself too /earthy/, following the exact
phrasing of her imperial majesty.
We shall now work on this task.
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (and her garden): wip 1
Date: 25 Nov 2012 04:12:39
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She was in a bad mood yesterday and impatient with us. Today, she was
more friendly.
Thomas
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: The Sultana (and her garden): wip 1
Date: 25 Nov 2012 05:12:00
Message: <50b1eef0$1@news.povray.org>
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El 25/11/12 10:12, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> She was in a bad mood yesterday and impatient with us. Today, she was
> more friendly.
>
Somehow I liked better the previous expression... looked very much
like the haughty attitude one would expect from an imperial majesty,
specially if posing for a portrait.
--
Jaime
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (and her garden): wip 2
Date: 27 Nov 2012 03:49:06
Message: <50b47e82@news.povray.org>
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A next step here. Subtle differences, especially the (maybe) little
known tool: /add thickness to free mesh edges/ in Poseray. In the
previous images the cornea too had got lost and is restored here. I
followed up Jaime's comment and subtly tweaked the face expression.
Still working on decreasing the collision depth of the cloth. Against
skin that is not too difficult but cloth-to-cloth brings more of a
challenge...
Thomas
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Le 2012-11-27 03:48, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> A next step here. Subtle differences, especially the (maybe) little
> known tool: /add thickness to free mesh edges/ in Poseray. In the
> previous images the cornea too had got lost and is restored here. I
> followed up Jaime's comment and subtly tweaked the face expression.
>
> Still working on decreasing the collision depth of the cloth. Against
> skin that is not too difficult but cloth-to-cloth brings more of a
> challenge...
>
> Thomas
>
She sure look like she have a lot of character... I pity those who want
or need her to change a decision on anything.
Alain
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Le 27/11/2012 09:48, Thomas de Groot nous fit lire :
> A next step here. Subtle differences, especially the (maybe) little
> known tool: /add thickness to free mesh edges/ in Poseray. In the
> previous images the cornea too had got lost and is restored here. I
> followed up Jaime's comment and subtly tweaked the face expression.
>
> Still working on decreasing the collision depth of the cloth. Against
> skin that is not too difficult but cloth-to-cloth brings more of a
> challenge...
>
> Thomas
>
Yummy... is it me, or does she show some cross-eye ?
Her right eye seems to look on her left, while her left eye seems to
look straight ahead.
Personal note, for safety: do not journey to the Sultana, life is in danger.
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On 27-11-2012 19:27, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Yummy... is it me, or does she show some cross-eye ?
> Her right eye seems to look on her left, while her left eye seems to
> look straight ahead.
This is a puzzle. *All* figures coming with *Poser 8* show this after
passing through Poseray. It is not noticeable in Poser itself, neither
in Poseray's Preview, but during the export to POV-Ray something happens.
> Personal note, for safety: do not journey to the Sultana, life is in danger.
What do you know! After giving two (2!) sons to the Sultan, she is
entitled to some authority ;-)
Thomas
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On 27-11-2012 18:58, Alain wrote:
> She sure look like she have a lot of character... I pity those who want
> or need her to change a decision on anything.
She has a reputation...
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 1
Date: 29 Nov 2012 08:04:15
Message: <50b75d4f@news.povray.org>
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Getting to know the general settings for the portrait better.
In the palace of Neoilion, overlooking the Hellespont (Dardalelles)
across to the Gallipoli peninsula. June 5th, 4:10 PM
Thomas
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On 11/29/2012 08:04 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Getting to know the general settings for the portrait better.
>
> In the palace of Neoilion, overlooking the Hellespont (Dardalelles)
> across to the Gallipoli peninsula. June 5th, 4:10 PM
>
> Thomas
>
Hey cool ... I like back-lit scenes with the camera in the shadows
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 1
Date: 30 Nov 2012 02:57:54
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On 29-11-2012 19:27, James Holsenback wrote:
> Hey cool ... I like back-lit scenes with the camera in the shadows
Me too. What about this?
Thomas
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On 24/11/2012 1:05 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> At the TC-RTC Challenge /Garden/ I uploaded a view of the private garden
> of the Sultana, in the imperial city of Neoilion.
>
> http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/418/The_Secret_Garden.html
>
Following on from a conversation with Jim Henderson, on p.o.t I
submitted my own entry for the Garden.
http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/421/The_Garden_of_Remembrance_.html
</end plug for TC-RTC>
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 30.11.2012 20:35, schrieb Stephen:
> Following on from a conversation with Jim Henderson, on p.o.t I
> submitted my own entry for the Garden.
So /that/ is the Sultana's Garden? Uh-oh... no surprise she has a
reputation :-)
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Le 2012-11-30 14:55, clipka a écrit :
> Am 30.11.2012 20:35, schrieb Stephen:
>
>> Following on from a conversation with Jim Henderson, on p.o.t I
>> submitted my own entry for the Garden.
>
> So /that/ is the Sultana's Garden? Uh-oh... no surprise she has a
> reputation :-)
>
Wanted.
We need some lobeyist to influence the Sultana. The applicants need to
be able to sustain the gase of the Medusa and make her blink. They must
also be able to wrestle down TWO minautors at once.
Good pay with substantial high risks bonus. They will replace the 23
lost since the beggining of this year.
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On 30-11-2012 20:55, clipka wrote:
> So /that/ is the Sultana's Garden? Uh-oh... no surprise she has a
> reputation :-)
>
I am entitled to announce that /that/ is /not/ the Sultana's garden. The
Sultana vehemently denies any dealing with or influence upon any event
happening in the distant future.
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 1
Date: 2 Dec 2012 04:14:09
Message: <50bb1be1@news.povray.org>
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This would be the next version.
Fog replaced by (directional) media (cut off at foreground);
Area light only for the foreground;
...among other subtle changes.
Approaching final render.
Thomas
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On 02/12/2012 9:14 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> This would be the next version.
Nice.
Is that a flying carpet in the midground?
I hope that she does not see any black sails. ;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 2-12-2012 11:45, Stephen wrote:
> On 02/12/2012 9:14 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> This would be the next version.
>
> Nice.
Thanks :-)
>
> Is that a flying carpet in the midground?
?? Did I miss something here?
>
> I hope that she does not see any black sails. ;-)
She can deal with that all right ;-)
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degroot org> wrote:
....
> > Is that a flying carpet in the midground?
>
> ?? Did I miss something here?
....
I also had to look twice for the bird landing on the railing ;-)
I have enjoyed your work in the series.
Stephen S
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On 02/12/2012 12:42 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 2-12-2012 11:45, Stephen wrote:
>> Is that a flying carpet in the midground?
>
> ?? Did I miss something here?
>
Until StephenS metioned it, I could not make it out. :-(
>>
>> I hope that she does not see any black sails. ;-)
>
> She can deal with that all right ;-)
>
As with most things in life, I guess.
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 1
Date: 2 Dec 2012 10:06:07
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On 2-12-2012 14:44, StephenS wrote:
> I also had to look twice for the bird landing on the railing ;-)
Really? Well, I am biased of course...
>
> I have enjoyed your work in the series.
Thank you indeed :-)
Thomas
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On 2-12-2012 15:03, Stephen wrote:
> Until StephenS metioned it, I could not make it out. :-(
The angle of approach is probably at fault here ;-)
>>>
>>> I hope that she does not see any black sails. ;-)
>>
>> She can deal with that all right ;-)
>>
>
> As with most things in life, I guess.
Oh yes!
Thomas
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>Stephen on date 02/12/2012 15.03 wrote:
> On 02/12/2012 12:42 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 2-12-2012 11:45, Stephen wrote:
>>> Is that a flying carpet in the midground?
>>
>> ?? Did I miss something here?
>>
>
> Until StephenS metioned it, I could not make it out. :-(
Yes, it looks like a jumping Dolphin.
;-)
Paolo
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 2
Date: 3 Dec 2012 08:19:41
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This is going to be the final version (more or less).
Apart from the curtains, the most notable change is the atmospheric
media which has been made conforming the surface of the Earth (yes, the
surface is curved in this scene) and not to interact with the water media.
Happily, the curtains made a mess in Poser, not wanting to keep to the
curtain rod as all well-behaved curtains should do. The result is a
rather more interesting draping of tissue.
Turned the pigeons round and round but without a really satisfying
result. I am too lazy to re-pose them so, take it or leave it ;-)
Thomas
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El 03/12/12 14:19, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> Apart from the curtains, the most notable change is the atmospheric
> media which has been made conforming the surface of the Earth (yes,
> the surface is curved in this scene) and not to interact with the
> water media.
>
> Happily, the curtains made a mess in Poser, not wanting to keep to
> the curtain rod as all well-behaved curtains should do. The result is
> a rather more interesting draping of tissue.
They look funny, but nice.
> Turned the pigeons round and round but without a really satisfying
> result. I am too lazy to re-pose them so, take it or leave it ;-)
>
Just before reading this, looking at the image, I figured what's he
problem: the still-flying pigeon needs to be much closer to the rail.
This new shot shows better the pose, and it seems to me like the kind of
pose a bird would adopt just seconds before landing.
--
Jaime
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On 3-12-2012 14:41, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 03/12/12 14:19, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> Apart from the curtains, the most notable change is the atmospheric
>> media which has been made conforming the surface of the Earth (yes,
>> the surface is curved in this scene) and not to interact with the
>> water media.
>>
>> Happily, the curtains made a mess in Poser, not wanting to keep to
>> the curtain rod as all well-behaved curtains should do. The result is
>> a rather more interesting draping of tissue.
>
> They look funny, but nice.
Yes, it is a weird draping but it looks functional in the context, so I
shall keep it.
>
>> Turned the pigeons round and round but without a really satisfying
>> result. I am too lazy to re-pose them so, take it or leave it ;-)
>>
>
> Just before reading this, looking at the image, I figured what's he
> problem: the still-flying pigeon needs to be much closer to the rail.
> This new shot shows better the pose, and it seems to me like the kind of
> pose a bird would adopt just seconds before landing.
Yes, the distance should be less maybe. Oh well, a bit of artistic
licence ;-)
Thomas
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> Happily, the curtains made a mess in Poser, not wanting to keep to the
> curtain rod as all well-behaved curtains should do. The result is a
> rather more interesting draping of tissue.
I like how the curtains capture the light.
Paolo
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Sultana (in her palace): wip 2
Date: 4 Dec 2012 07:45:03
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On 4-12-2012 10:27, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> I like how the curtains capture the light.
The backside illumination diffuse is contributing much towards this in fact.
Thomas
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Am 04.12.2012 13:44, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 4-12-2012 10:27, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>> I like how the curtains capture the light.
>
> The backside illumination diffuse is contributing much towards this in
> fact.
It's good to see that feature being used in serious renders at last.
Until now it didn't seem to get any of the attention I think it deserves.
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On 4-12-2012 21:25, clipka wrote:
> Am 04.12.2012 13:44, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 4-12-2012 10:27, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>>> I like how the curtains capture the light.
>>
>> The backside illumination diffuse is contributing much towards this in
>> fact.
>
> It's good to see that feature being used in serious renders at last.
> Until now it didn't seem to get any of the attention I think it deserves.
>
Really? I am surprised. I use it each time I have a semi-transparent
object (and don't forget about it first). In the present scene, the
sails of the ships also use the feature.
Thomas
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