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From: clipka
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 13 Jul 2012 09:02:11
Message: <50001c53$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.07.2012 09:27, schrieb Ive:
> A few years ago I've posted an early attempt within this NG. Here is the
> non-post-processed and almost final version.
> You'll find the post-processed and *real* final image on my web-page at
> http://www.lilysoft.org/CGI/Blue%20Flower/blueflower.htm
> It is accompanied by an trad. German song from the 18th century that
> fits the theme "German Romanticism".

Wonderful moody image!

(Best viewed on a well-calibrated display, folks.)


I guess you answered the question before already: Why "the blue flower"?


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 13 Jul 2012 13:00:21
Message: <50005425@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:27:05 +0200, Ive wrote:

> A few years ago I've posted an early attempt within this NG. Here is the
> non-post-processed and almost final version.

This should most certainly be put in the HoF....Amazing work.

Jim


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 13 Jul 2012 23:00:00
Message: <web.5000e04e9ab39eadce3665c80@news.povray.org>
I don't see any blue flower, but I do spot a wet bird... ;)

Exceptional render.  So much foliage and the moody morning fumes in the air...
may I ask for rendertime or should be too afraid?


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (explanation)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 03:35:18
Message: <50012136$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.07.2012 15:02, schrieb clipka:
> I guess you answered the question before already: Why "the blue flower"?

Yes ;)

Usually I do hate it to give more than a hint for possible 
interpretations but in this case a bit of explanation might be in place:

"The Blue Flower" - "Die blaue Blume" was coined by the German 18th 
century writer Novalis. The phrase is a metaphor for for search for the 
unreachable, unfulfilled love and desire.
Especially a desire for a "simple world" including an idealized and 
naive picture of nature and the middle ages was characteristic for the 
early German romantic period.
And those ideas (within contemporary esoteric and anti-scientific 
tendencies) have still quite some impact on the cultural and political 
situation in the present while on the other hand already German late 
romantic poets and philosophers (e.g. Heinrich Heine) did use an ironic 
take on this naive world view.

The mixed forest trees seen within the image would have been a common 
view in the 18th century German low mountain range. But nowadays no such 
combination of trees and shrubs does exist anymore in the wild.
You'll need either a time-machine or CGI to do this shot ;)

So there is an image titled "The Blue Flower" that carefully avoids do 
show any blue flower.

-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 03:42:42
Message: <500122f2$1@news.povray.org>
Am 14.07.2012 04:58, schrieb nemesis:
> I don't see any blue flower, but I do spot a wet bird... ;)
>
Se my response to clipka ;)

> Exceptional render.  So much foliage and the moody morning fumes in the air...
> may I ask for rendertime or should be too afraid?
>
When does it start to hurt you?
4 days with an i7### [at] 35GHz due multiple nested media containers. Well, a 
bit slower than the 35fps I did get with Skyrim  but also a bit more 
moody ;)

-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 03:44:34
Message: <50012362$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.07.2012 19:00, schrieb Jim Henderson:
> This should most certainly be put in the HoF....Amazing work.
>
Thank you Jim!

-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 03:45:45
Message: <500123a9$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.07.2012 09:48, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> Oh my, Caspar David Friedrich!
>
Yep!

> I love this!
>
Thank you Thomas.

-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 03:46:26
Message: <500123d2$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.07.2012 10:42, schrieb Paolo Gibellini:




-Ive


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 14 Jul 2012 08:45:46
Message: <500169fa$1@news.povray.org>
Am 14.07.2012 09:41, schrieb Ive:
> Am 14.07.2012 04:58, schrieb nemesis:
>> Exceptional render.  So much foliage and the moody morning fumes in
>> the air...
>> may I ask for rendertime or should be too afraid?
>>
> When does it start to hurt you?
> 4 days with an i7### [at] 35GHz due multiple nested media containers. Well, a
> bit slower than the 35fps I did get with Skyrim  but also a bit more
> moody ;)

Sounds reasonable to me. And definitely worthwhile.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: The Blue Flower (final)
Date: 15 Jul 2012 16:30:00
Message: <50032848$1@news.povray.org>
Em 14/07/2012 04:41, Ive escreveu:
>> may I ask for rendertime or should be too afraid?
>>
> When does it start to hurt you?
> 4 days with an i7### [at] 35GHz

torture.

> due multiple nested media containers.

no doubt.  Some postprocessing should do the trick, no?

> Well, a
> bit slower than the 35fps I did get with Skyrim but also a bit more
> moody ;)

can't deny that.


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