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The weather is good, so time to sail a bit on the river.
The ship is a model of the Kyrenia vessel, a third century BC Cypriot
merchant vessel, very appropriate to sail the approaches of Gancaloon.
The original model comes from the Taschen 3D Objects Collection but its
quality left much to be desired. I carefully restored it in Silo over a
number of years though it is not finished yet (uv-mapping, sails,
textures, etc...). It featured in an earlier version in my first
Gancaloon scene - Eavesdropping - back in 2006/2007. This is a preview
of the latest developments.
Thomas
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On 28/05/2012 12:40 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> The weather is good, so time to sail a bit on the river.
It is getting better and better. :-D
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Stephen
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On 28-5-2012 14:03, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/05/2012 12:40 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> The weather is good, so time to sail a bit on the river.
>
> It is getting better and better. :-D
>
Ha! Bits and pieces here and there, slowly growing towards a
comprehensive goal... ;-)
I also want to model a dhow, but I shall have to start from scratch. I
shall probably start with the DelftShip program
(http://www.delftship.net/) to get a basic hull. It has been a very long
time since I last used it, so back to school once again :-)
Thomas
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On 28/05/2012 3:46 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> Ha! Bits and pieces here and there, slowly growing towards a
> comprehensive goal... ;-)
>
Slowly, slowly catchy monkey. ;-)
> I also want to model a dhow, but I shall have to start from scratch. I
> shall probably start with the DelftShip program
> (http://www.delftship.net/) to get a basic hull. It has been a very long
> time since I last used it, so back to school once again :-)
>
I remember that you mentioned it before. I had difficulty getting
anything built properly IIRC. Good luck.
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Stephen
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On 28-5-2012 17:30, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/05/2012 3:46 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>> Ha! Bits and pieces here and there, slowly growing towards a
>> comprehensive goal... ;-)
>>
>
> Slowly, slowly catchy monkey. ;-)
<grin>
>
>> I also want to model a dhow, but I shall have to start from scratch. I
>> shall probably start with the DelftShip program
>> (http://www.delftship.net/) to get a basic hull. It has been a very long
>> time since I last used it, so back to school once again :-)
>>
>
> I remember that you mentioned it before. I had difficulty getting
> anything built properly IIRC. Good luck.
>
Yes. Neither have I got very far but that was with a difficult shape
when working on a 16th century hull. I may have more luck this time....
Thomas
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On 29-5-2012 8:56, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 28-5-2012 17:30, Stephen wrote:
>> I remember that you mentioned it before. I had difficulty getting
>> anything built properly IIRC. Good luck.
>>
> Yes. Neither have I got very far but that was with a difficult shape
> when working on a 16th century hull. I may have more luck this time....
>
...Although I got something already workable at the time...
Thomas
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On 29/05/2012 8:29 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>> Yes. Neither have I got very far but that was with a difficult shape
>> when working on a 16th century hull. I may have more luck this time....
>>
>
> ....Although I got something already workable at the time...
Hmm! it looks as if it has been around the block a few times. And how
can they float when you only get half a hull? ;-)
Keep us posted as you progress.
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Stephen
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On 5/28/2012 6:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> The weather is good, so time to sail a bit on the river.
Oompa loompa doopity-doo...
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On 29-5-2012 21:21, Stephen wrote:
> Hmm! it looks as if it has been around the block a few times.
Too many times! ;-)
And how
> can they float when you only get half a hull? ;-)
On half an ocean? ;-)
>
> Keep us posted as you progress.
I will.
Thomas
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On 30-5-2012 3:41, John VanSickle wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 6:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> The weather is good, so time to sail a bit on the river.
>
> Oompa loompa doopity-doo...
>
<grin>
Thanks Willy :-)
Thomas
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With the hull uv mapped as intended.
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Sailing on the Yann - dhow building
Date: 1 Jun 2012 04:14:35
Message: <4fc879eb@news.povray.org>
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Well, I am rather satisfied with the first approximation of a dhow hull
built in DELFTship. Now I need to explore the more arcane possibilities
of the program...
Workflow (till now):
1) draw outlines of the ship (side view, top view);
2) draw timber profiles at regular locations along the hull;
3) measure xyz coordinate control points along each timber and put them
in a timber-plan spreadsheet;
4) in DELFTship, import the timber-plan spreadsheet and let the program
calculate the hull.
ToDo:
5) smooth the hull and correct outlines; add creases where necessary;
6) export the hull as OBJ object and import in modeller for further
shipbuilding.
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Sailing on the Yann - dhow building
Date: 2 Jun 2012 07:52:21
Message: <4fc9fe75@news.povray.org>
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I have been hammering away at the dhow hull, made it leak-free, and
launched it on the Yann. It floats, by Poseidon! :-)
All done so far within the DELFTship program (free version). Still some
more smoothing needs to be done. The free version does not have the
automatic options coming with the professional one, but using the
available shading modes it can be done manually as well.
In comparison with the "Kyrenia" ship which is about 14m long, the dhow
here is about 24m long.
I am very happy :-)
Thomas
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Sailing on the Yann - dhow building (wip)
Date: 8 Jun 2012 07:54:15
Message: <4fd1e7e7@news.povray.org>
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A screenshot from Silo2Pro to show the progress in building the dhow.
Essentially, the rigging and the sail(s) are missing. Most of the uv
mapping is done now too.
Thomas
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The Dhow is almost ready for sailing, and finally bring in some money
with trading up river ;-)
Rigging and sail still missing.
Thomas
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On 09/06/2012 3:40 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> The Dhow is almost ready for sailing,
Keep them coming :-D
> and finally bring in some money
> with trading up river ;-)
No need to prove that you are a Nederlander. :-P
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Stephen
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On 9-6-2012 17:26, Stephen wrote:
> On 09/06/2012 3:40 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> The Dhow is almost ready for sailing,
>
> Keep them coming :-D
I will :-)
>
>> and finally bring in some money
>> with trading up river ;-)
>
> No need to prove that you are a Nederlander. :-P
Ha! Hypocrite! Most of the time we have been fighting the British to
defend our own! :-P
Thomas
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On 10/06/2012 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Ha! Hypocrite! Most of the time we have been fighting the British to
> defend our own! :-P
You got your own back by disposing James VII (James II of England) with
William of Orange. And look at the trouble that has caused, even unto
today. :-P
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Stephen
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On 10-6-2012 11:08, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/06/2012 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Ha! Hypocrite! Most of the time we have been fighting the British to
>> defend our own! :-P
>
> You got your own back by disposing James VII (James II of England) with
> William of Orange. And look at the trouble that has caused, even unto
> today. :-P
>
Never refuse a throne when it is offered to you? :-)
Thomas
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On 10/06/2012 12:19 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Never refuse a throne when it is offered to you? :-)
I think that I will hold out for a Cherubim or even a Seraphim, if I'm
lucky. ;-)
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Stephen
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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degroot org> wrote:
> On 10-6-2012 11:08, Stephen wrote:
> > On 10/06/2012 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> >> Ha! Hypocrite! Most of the time we have been fighting the British to
> >> defend our own! :-P
> >
> > You got your own back by disposing James VII (James II of England) with
> > William of Orange. And look at the trouble that has caused, even unto
> > today. :-P
> >
> Never refuse a throne when it is offered to you? :-)
>
> Thomas
Ah, monarchies. I shall never understand them (said the American).
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On 10-6-2012 13:27, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/06/2012 12:19 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Never refuse a throne when it is offered to you? :-)
>
> I think that I will hold out for a Cherubim or even a Seraphim, if I'm
> lucky. ;-)
>
You have me back up in a corner now ;-) Excellent answer indeed! :-)
Thomas
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On 11-6-2012 6:25, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Thomas de Groot<tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> On 10-6-2012 11:08, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 10/06/2012 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Ha! Hypocrite! Most of the time we have been fighting the British to
>>>> defend our own! :-P
>>>
>>> You got your own back by disposing James VII (James II of England) with
>>> William of Orange. And look at the trouble that has caused, even unto
>>> today. :-P
>>>
>> Never refuse a throne when it is offered to you? :-)
>>
>> Thomas
>
> Ah, monarchies. I shall never understand them (said the American).
They give us opportunities to go boating... ;-)
Which brings us back to the original topic... :-)
Thomas
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On 11/06/2012 7:31 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Ah, monarchies. I shall never understand them (said the American).
>
> They give us opportunities to go boating... ;-)
With "Mad King Ludwig", maybe? ;-)
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On 11-6-2012 10:17, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/06/2012 7:31 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Ah, monarchies. I shall never understand them (said the American).
>>
>> They give us opportunities to go boating... ;-)
>
> With "Mad King Ludwig", maybe? ;-)
>
Ah! Who knows? Monarchies love boats and ships it seems... ;-)
Thomas
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Hoisting the sail; catching the wind...
A first sailing try-out. Using Poser for blowing wind in the sail: Some
fine tuning is needed but the result is already acceptable.
Thomas
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Great render to go !
Are you the last french pover ? ;-)
A bientôt !
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On 19-7-2012 17:11, LightBeam wrote:
> Great render to go !
> Are you the last french pover ? ;-)
> A bientôt !
>
Well, not being /really/ French, I am not even the last one ;-) but
aside from that trivial point, yes, my impression is that I am the last
one indeed.... (mais où sont-ils donc tous...?)
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 19-7-2012 17:11, LightBeam wrote:
>> Great render to go !
>> Are you the last french pover ? ;-)
>> A bientôt !
>>
>
> Well, not being /really/ French, I am not even the last one ;-) but
> aside from that trivial point, yes, my impression is that I am the last
> one indeed.... (mais où sont-ils donc tous...?)
>
Lurking? But not POVing much, I'm afraid...
Jerome
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