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Lately, while I visited our local museum and its huge collection of
historical music instruments, I did spot a virginals made by the Flemish
manufacturer Ruckers ca. 1610.
This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it and to update
my scene from 2002 (some of you might even remember):
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C3da07987%40news.povray.org%3E/?ttop=357010&toff=6500
"PARTHENIA or The Maidenhead" was a popular collection of tunes for the
virginals (a kind of "best of" or "hit list" from the early 17th
century) and might very well have found its way to Delft. And it also
includes my favorite renaissance composition: "The Earl of Salisbury,
Pavane & Galliard" by William Byrd.
-Ive
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Ive wrote:
> This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
> painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it
Impressive! I can't really place the wooden part on the
lower left though, is it part of a seat? Also, I'm a bit
distracted by the surroundings: especially the rough back
wall that doesn't seem to fit with the floor and the
smooth wall with the intricate window.
> "PARTHENIA or The Maidenhead" was a popular collection of tunes for the
> virginals (a kind of "best of" or "hit list" from the early 17th
> century) and might very well have found its way to Delft.
Did you see this virginals in a museum in Delft?
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An impressive image, Ive. Every aspect is wonderfully detailed. Good job!
Sam
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Am 07.02.2011 20:35, schrieb Ive:
> Lately, while I visited our local museum and its huge collection of
> historical music instruments, I did spot a virginals made by the Flemish
> manufacturer Ruckers ca. 1610.
> This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
> painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it and to update
> my scene from 2002 (some of you might even remember):
Impressive modelling, texturing and lighting!
(Upon very, /very/ close inspection, the upper window's lead framing
look flawed though, you might want to have a look at that)
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On 07/02/2011 7:35 PM, Ive wrote:
> This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
> painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it and to update
> my scene from 2002 (some of you might even remember)
What! No dragons? Other than that, excellent!
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 07.02.2011 22:15, schrieb Christian Froeschlin:
> Impressive!
Thank you.
> I can't really place the wooden part on the
> lower left though, is it part of a seat?
It is one of Vermeers lion head chairs. See image below.
> Also, I'm a bit
> distracted by the surroundings: especially the rough back
> wall that doesn't seem to fit with the floor and the
> smooth wall with the intricate window.
>
For the left wall, well, I did forget to enable the hight_field for it
and the floor is not a marble floor but just stone and I think the back
wall and floor together do come pretty close to Vermeers paintings.
>> "PARTHENIA or The Maidenhead" was a popular collection of tunes for
>> the virginals (a kind of "best of" or "hit list" from the early 17th
>> century) and might very well have found its way to Delft.
>
> Did you see this virginals in a museum in Delft?
The reference to Delft is because Vermeer lived there ;)
The museum is the "Germanisches Nationalmuseum" in Nuremberg.
It has a really impressive collection from medieval to baroque
instruments but not a single painting by Albrecht Dürer.
-Ive
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err, the chair, as promised, but I'm still working on some details:
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Am 07.02.2011 22:25, schrieb Samuel Benge:
> An impressive image, Ive. Every aspect is wonderfully detailed. Good job!
>
Thank you Sam.
-Ive
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Am 07.02.2011 23:29, schrieb clipka:
> Impressive modelling, texturing and lighting!
Thanks, but credit for the lighting goes to the used render engine
called POV-Ray ;)
> (Upon very, /very/ close inspection, the upper window's lead framing
> look flawed though, you might want to have a look at that)
Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean. There are a few radiosity artifacts
between the frame and the wall. Is it that?
A higher 'count' value should help and with a render time of about 2h it
was pretty fast - especially when I remember a low quality render did
last days 9 years ago.
But I attempt to rework the wooden frame anyway to give it a more
weathered look (isosurfaces should work well for this) so there is a
good chance that render time will increase dramatically.
Did I already mention that I feel that something is wrong when a
raytracer does finish its job too quickly ;)
-Ive
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Am 07.02.2011 23:41, schrieb Stephen:
> What! No dragons?
But lilies, lots of them ;)
-Ive
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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoft org> wrote:
> Am 07.02.2011 23:29, schrieb clipka:
>
> > Impressive modelling, texturing and lighting!
>
> Thanks, but credit for the lighting goes to the used render engine
> called POV-Ray ;)
>
>
> > (Upon very, /very/ close inspection, the upper window's lead framing
> > look flawed though, you might want to have a look at that)
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean. There are a few radiosity artifacts
> between the frame and the wall. Is it that?
> A higher 'count' value should help and with a render time of about 2h it
> was pretty fast - especially when I remember a low quality render did
> last days 9 years ago.
> But I attempt to rework the wooden frame anyway to give it a more
> weathered look (isosurfaces should work well for this) so there is a
> good chance that render time will increase dramatically.
> Did I already mention that I feel that something is wrong when a
> raytracer does finish its job too quickly ;)
>
> -Ive
Probably is refering to how the horizontal leading 'bumps' out at the vertical
leading. It looks like it was intended to be that way, however you may want to
make it a little smaller in size. From the perspective of the render, it looks
like it is not in-line with the verticals.
-tgq
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> schreef in bericht news:4d50498a@news.povray.org...
> Lately, while I visited our local museum and its huge collection of
> historical music instruments, I did spot a virginals made by the Flemish
> manufacturer Ruckers ca. 1610.
> This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
> painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it and to update
> my scene from 2002 (some of you might even remember):
A truly excellent job. Impressive scene indeed.
> "PARTHENIA or The Maidenhead" was a popular collection of tunes for the
> virginals (a kind of "best of" or "hit list" from the early 17th
> century) and might very well have found its way to Delft. And it also
> includes my favorite renaissance composition: "The Earl of Salisbury,
> Pavane & Galliard" by William Byrd.
I love that music above all.
Thomas
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Am 08.02.2011 07:52, schrieb Trevor G Quayle:
> Probably is refering to how the horizontal leading 'bumps' out at the vertical
> leading. It looks like it was intended to be that way, however you may want to
> make it a little smaller in size. From the perspective of the render, it looks
> like it is not in-line with the verticals.
>
Ah, interesting as this would have never occurred to me as odd. Actually
there *is* an additional horizontal bar in front of the glass leading
that is meant for some lace to be attached to it.
But Vermeer did remove the lace (and so did I) to have a bit more light
that falls through the window.
But I do agree, this looks a bit odd for the given perspective and
actually the lace-bars should be a tiny bit farer away and also not that
perfectly aligned with the lead, even a bit random.
Thanks and I'll keep this in mind.
-Ive
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Am 08.02.2011 09:14, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> A truly excellent job. Impressive scene indeed.
Thank you, Thomas.
> I love that music above all.
>
Just curious, renaissance music in general, the Elizabethan school (John
Dowland, William Kemp, William Byrd etc.) or especially William Byrd?
-Ive
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Am 08.02.2011 07:38, schrieb Ive:
>> (Upon very, /very/ close inspection, the upper window's lead framing
>> look flawed though, you might want to have a look at that)
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean. There are a few radiosity artifacts
> between the frame and the wall. Is it that?
No, no - I mean the (presumably leaden) stripes between the individual
glass tiles; where these stripes meet, there are some bumps that don't
seem to make sense to me - it would make sense to have bulges there, but
they seem to be too thick, or offset to the right, or some such.
> Did I already mention that I feel that something is wrong when a
> raytracer does finish its job too quickly ;)
Then by all means do something about it ;-)
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Le 2011/02/07 16:15, Christian Froeschlin a écrit :
> Ive wrote:
>
>> This virginals did indeed look close to the one seen in the Vermeer
>> painting "The Music Lesson" and so I started to rebuild it
>
> Impressive! I can't really place the wooden part on the
> lower left though, is it part of a seat? Also, I'm a bit
> distracted by the surroundings: especially the rough back
> wall that doesn't seem to fit with the floor and the
> smooth wall with the intricate window.
>
>> "PARTHENIA or The Maidenhead" was a popular collection of tunes for
>> the virginals (a kind of "best of" or "hit list" from the early 17th
>> century) and might very well have found its way to Delft.
>
> Did you see this virginals in a museum in Delft?
I've seen rougher walls with floors having a mirror like finish in real
life.
The window is also quite "normal" in the represented environment.
In fact, the way that the wall becomes much rougher just at it's bottom
is very realist.
Alain
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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:
> err, the chair, as promised, but I'm still working on some details:
Wow, this is really impressive Ive. This kind of painterly Dutch lighting is
*so* beautiful.
Totally inspiring, thank you!
Rob :)
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www.McGregorFineArt.com
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:O ...Truly "Vermeerish"!
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> schreef in bericht news:4d50ffb4@news.povray.org...
> Am 08.02.2011 09:14, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> I love that music above all.
>
> Just curious, renaissance music in general, the Elizabethan school (John
> Dowland, William Kemp, William Byrd etc.) or especially William Byrd?
Renaissance and early Baroque at large in fact.
Thomas
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