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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 04:54:27
Message: <4c5141c3@news.povray.org>
Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the 
project petters slowly out.

In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal 
with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.

Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added the 
ideograms and seal with screen,inc.

Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.

I like it :-)


Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 05:19:16
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On 29/07/2010 9:54 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the
> project petters slowly out.
>
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
>
> Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added the
> ideograms and seal with screen,inc.
>
> Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.
>
> I like it :-)

So do I and I think that I have seen it before but I might be confusing 
it with one of several I've seen in RL. Yours is very convincing.

BTW Why sign it on the bottom when you have applied your chop? ;-)

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 06:23:23
Message: <4c51569b$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> a écrit dans le 
message de news: 4c5141c3@news.povray.org...
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the 
> project petters slowly out.
>
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal 
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
>
> Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added 
> the ideograms and seal with screen,inc.
>
> Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.
>
> I like it :-)
>
>
> Thomas
>
Oh I love it !
I'm far from an expert in chinese art but it looks to me as Roger Dean went 
to  China
It is worth a YES 30cm  double LP sleeve ;-)

Marc


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 06:41:22
Message: <4c515ad2$1@news.povray.org>
Am 29.07.2010 10:54, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the
> project petters slowly out.
>
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
>
> Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added the
> ideograms and seal with screen,inc.
>
> Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.

Holy moly!

> I like it :-)

Me too! Want a high-res version, pleeeeease!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:16:54
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"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
news:4c514794$1@news.povray.org...
> So do I and I think that I have seen it before but I might be confusing it 
> with one of several I've seen in RL. Yours is very convincing.

Thank you indeed, Stephen.

>
> BTW Why sign it on the bottom when you have applied your chop? ;-)

Because some few may not be able to read the chop :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:18:44
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"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht 
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> Oh I love it !
> I'm far from an expert in chinese art but it looks to me as Roger Dean 
> went to  China
> It is worth a YES 30cm  double LP sleeve ;-)

Wow, thanks! That an honour, to be compared to Roger Dean whose sleeves I 
admire.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:19:36
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"clipka" <ano### [at] anonymousorg> schreef in bericht 
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> Me too! Want a high-res version, pleeeeease!

Thanks! and can do. On its way...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:27:09
Message: <4c51658d$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/07/2010 12:16 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen"<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>  schreef in bericht

>>
>> BTW Why sign it on the bottom when you have applied your chop? ;-)
>
> Because some few may not be able to read the chop :-)
>

I forget the ignorance of youth. ;-)

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:45:52
Message: <4c5169f0@news.povray.org>
A larger version here.

Some technical details:
- height_field made with Leveller
- water texture by Gilles Tran
- island, boat, and figure are meshes, originally modelled with Hamapatch
- trees through macros by Tom Aust and Paul T. Dawson


Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:51:37
Message: <4c516b49@news.povray.org>
Forgot to tell that the mist is just a ground fog. The trick here is that it 
is inclined towards the camera, in such a way that it plunges into the lake 
a little behind the island.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 07:55:39
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"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
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> I forget the ignorance of youth. ;-)

That is way I pass the time on my barge, drinking mao tai and reciting  Li 
Bai's poems...  ;-)

Thomas


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 08:37:14
Message: <4c5175fa$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> a écrit dans le 
message de news: 4c516b49@news.povray.org...
> Forgot to tell that the mist is just a ground fog. The trick here is that 
> it is inclined towards the camera, in such a way that it plunges into the 
> lake a little behind the island.
>
> Thomas
>
I was just wondering how you tuned the haze so well to get the mountain 
peaks emerging range after range.
Pure art !!

Marc


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 09:09:01
Message: <4c517d6d@news.povray.org>
On 29/07/2010 12:55 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen"<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>  schreef in bericht
> news:4c51658d$1@news.povray.org...
>> I forget the ignorance of youth. ;-)
>
> That is way I pass the time on my barge, drinking mao tai and reciting  Li
> Bai's poems...  ;-)
>

Indolence becomes you. :-)

	All the birds have flown up and gone;
	A lonely cloud floats leisurely by.
	We never tire of looking at each other -
	Only the mountain and I.


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 09:30:00
Message: <web.4c5181a08cbbad7b6dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
Absolutely superb. I get a great sense of tranquility!

I shall remember the trick of tilting the ground fog, too - very useful. :)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 14:30:01
Message: <web.4c51c83ef45ffc201da93fae0@news.povray.org>
Perfect!

All those 3000+ ideograms is the real Great Wall of China! ;)


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 15:34:57
Message: <4c51d7e1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Forgot to tell that the mist is just a ground fog. The trick here is that it 
> is inclined towards the camera, in such a way that it plunges into the lake 
> a little behind the island.

Ah, I was wondering about that. Great image, Thomas!


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From: Dre
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 29 Jul 2010 19:29:24
Message: <4c520ed4@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
news:4c5141c3@news.povray.org...
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the 
> project petters slowly out.
>
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal 
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
>
> Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added 
> the ideograms and seal with screen,inc.
>
> Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.
>
> I like it :-)
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
Oh wow that is really nice!

You have inspired me to try something similar :)

Cheers Dre


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From: Dre
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 29 Jul 2010 19:47:40
Message: <4c52131c@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
news:4c516b49@news.povray.org...
> Forgot to tell that the mist is just a ground fog. The trick here is that 
> it is inclined towards the camera, in such a way that it plunges into the 
> lake a little behind the island.
>
> Thomas
>
>

You can rotate a ground fog?!?!?  I had no idea, but thats so cool!

Cheers Dre


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:13:42
Message: <4c527ba6@news.povray.org>
"Dre" <and### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:4c52131c@news.povray.org...
> You can rotate a ground fog?!?!?  I had no idea, but thats so cool!

No, you do not *rotate* the ground fog, but orient the up parameter 
differently, like this:

up  <0, 0.5, -0.2>

Simple and effective :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:16:15
Message: <4c527c3f$1@news.povray.org>
"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht 
news:4c5175fa$1@news.povray.org...
> I was just wondering how you tuned the haze so well to get the mountain 
> peaks emerging range after range.
> Pure art !!
>
Thank you, Marc. I think this is the only instance where I used this trick, 
by orienting the up parameter of the ground fog. Since then I forgot about 
it (or did not need it, which is almost the same)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:17:22
Message: <4c527c82$1@news.povray.org>
"stbenge" <myu### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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> Ah, I was wondering about that. Great image, Thomas!

Thanks, Sam. Different orientation of  *up* is all you need. :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:21:49
Message: <4c527d8d$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4c5181a08cbbad7b6dd25f0b0@news.povray.org...
> Absolutely superb. I get a great sense of tranquility!

Thank you, Bill. Sometimes I think I did better work in the past than 
nowadays... I remember I had a series in mind with different perspectives 
and in different scroll styles. I never went any further but it might be 
worthwhile to explore that line of work again. So much to do, really; or 
rather so many different ideas to explore...

>
> I shall remember the trick of tilting the ground fog, too - very useful. 
> :)

Yes, that is very useful. I totally forgot about it, until I revisited the 
scene by chance.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:24:51
Message: <4c527e43@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4c51c83ef45ffc201da93fae0@news.povray.org...
> Perfect!
>
> All those 3000+ ideograms is the real Great Wall of China! ;)
>

Thank you! And yes, they are the greatest challenge, and excellent for 
memory training :-)  But there is some rationale behind them which helps a 
bit.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:27:31
Message: <4c527ee3$1@news.povray.org>
"Dre" <and### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:4c520ed4@news.povray.org...
> Oh wow that is really nice!

Thank you!

>
> You have inspired me to try something similar :)

Ah! Excellent! Inspiration is all we need really. There are many tracks to 
follow in this vein ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 03:36:07
Message: <4c5280e7$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
news:4c517d6d@news.povray.org...
> On 29/07/2010 12:55 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> "Stephen"<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>  schreef in bericht
>> news:4c51658d$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I forget the ignorance of youth. ;-)
>>
>> That is way I pass the time on my barge, drinking mao tai and reciting 
>> Li
>> Bai's poems...  ;-)
>>

(I was already far gone, writing *way* instead of *why*...)  ;-)

>
> Indolence becomes you. :-)

The Jade Emperor looks kindly on me... However:

Buy only wine, when you have money -
Never buy land in the Southern Mountains!
That draws tax collectors, to your dismay,
Under the misty blue pine trees.

Which are wise words by Li Deng.

>
> All the birds have flown up and gone;
> A lonely cloud floats leisurely by.
> We never tire of looking at each other -
> Only the mountain and I.

Ah! Very appropriate and one of those little Li Bai jems.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 06:05:41
Message: <4c52a3f5$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/07/2010 8:36 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen"<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>  schreef in bericht
> news:4c517d6d@news.povray.org...
>> On 29/07/2010 12:55 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> "Stephen"<mca### [at] aolDOTcom>   schreef in bericht
>>> news:4c51658d$1@news.povray.org...
>>>> I forget the ignorance of youth. ;-)
>>>
>>> That is way I pass the time on my barge, drinking mao tai and reciting
>>> Li
>>> Bai's poems...  ;-)
>>>
>
> (I was already far gone, writing *way* instead of *why*...)  ;-)
>

That makes a difference. No dilettante, you.

>
> Buy only wine, when you have money -
> Never buy land in the Southern Mountains!
> That draws tax collectors, to your dismay,
> Under the misty blue pine trees.
>
> Which are wise words by Li Deng.
>

Appropriate even today.

>>
>> All the birds have flown up and gone;
>> A lonely cloud floats leisurely by.
>> We never tire of looking at each other -
>> Only the mountain and I.
>
> Ah! Very appropriate and one of those little Li Bai jems.
>

To maybe finish off, a haiku by Issa, suitable for Povers.

     O snail
     Climb Mount Fuji,
     But slowly, slowly!


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 06:18:47
Message: <4c52a707$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.07.2010 12:05, schrieb Stephen:

> To maybe finish off, a haiku by Issa, suitable for Povers.
>
> O snail
> Climb Mount Fuji,
> But slowly, slowly!

I guess it's a proper haiku in the original language...? From the little 
I know about haikus, the translation doesn't qualify.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 06:36:39
Message: <4c52ab37$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/07/2010 11:18 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 30.07.2010 12:05, schrieb Stephen:
>
>> To maybe finish off, a haiku by Issa, suitable for Povers.
>>
>> O snail
>> Climb Mount Fuji,
>> But slowly, slowly!
>
> I guess it's a proper haiku in the original language...? From the little
> I know about haikus, the translation doesn't qualify.

Interesting, what makes you say that?
I must admit to knowing it from J. D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey, not 
from a study of haiku.

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 06:41:50
Message: <4c52ac6e@news.povray.org>
Am 30.07.2010 12:36, schrieb Stephen:
> On 30/07/2010 11:18 AM, clipka wrote:
>> Am 30.07.2010 12:05, schrieb Stephen:
>>
>>> To maybe finish off, a haiku by Issa, suitable for Povers.
>>>
>>> O snail
>>> Climb Mount Fuji,
>>> But slowly, slowly!
>>
>> I guess it's a proper haiku in the original language...? From the little
>> I know about haikus, the translation doesn't qualify.
>
> Interesting, what makes you say that?
> I must admit to knowing it from J. D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey, not
> from a study of haiku.

AFAIK a haiku has three lines, each with a certain number of syllables 
(IIRC it is 5-7-5).


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 07:21:06
Message: <4c52b5a2$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/07/2010 11:41 AM, clipka wrote:

>>> I guess it's a proper haiku in the original language...? From the little
>>> I know about haikus, the translation doesn't qualify.
>>
>> Interesting, what makes you say that?
>> I must admit to knowing it from J. D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey, not
>> from a study of haiku.
>
> AFAIK a haiku has three lines, each with a certain number of syllables
> (IIRC it is 5-7-5).

Not wishing to get into an argument, as I am an egg.
You may find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English to be of 
interest.


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 07:39:46
Message: <4c52ba02$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <ano### [at] anonymousorg> schreef in bericht 
news:4c52ac6e@news.povray.org...
> AFAIK a haiku has three lines, each with a certain number of syllables 
> (IIRC it is 5-7-5).

True, but as western languages are much less suited for that than Japanese, 
one can also follow the mood/intention rules instead within the three lines. 
For translations, the syllabic rule is almost impossible to follow if one 
wants to catch the meaning correctly. There are western poets who have 
followed the strict syllabic rules, but with few satisfactory results. It 
sounds much more artificial.

Apart from the English speaking world, there are a few Dutch haiku poets of 
quality. Dutch and English seem to be rather suited to this verse form.

Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 07:42:01
Message: <4c52ba89$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.07.2010 13:21, schrieb Stephen:
> On 30/07/2010 11:41 AM, clipka wrote:
>
>>>> I guess it's a proper haiku in the original language...? From the
>>>> little
>>>> I know about haikus, the translation doesn't qualify.
>>>
>>> Interesting, what makes you say that?
>>> I must admit to knowing it from J. D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey, not
>>> from a study of haiku.
>>
>> AFAIK a haiku has three lines, each with a certain number of syllables
>> (IIRC it is 5-7-5).
>
> Not wishing to get into an argument, as I am an egg.
> You may find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English to be of
> interest.

Me being a nitpicker, I conclude that the article supports my layman 
assertion, and that the poem in question - though qualifying as an 
"English haiku" or "haiku in English" - does indeed not qualify as a 
regular "haiku" ;-)


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 07:50:00
Message: <web.4c52bbdef45ffc2034d207310@news.povray.org>
tres cool!


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 08:34:17
Message: <4c52c6c9@news.povray.org>
On 30/07/2010 12:41 PM, clipka wrote:
>
> Me being a nitpicker,

I'm sure I have a few more decades practice than you. :-P

> I conclude that the article supports my layman
> assertion, and that the poem in question - though qualifying as an
> "English haiku" or "haiku in English" - does indeed not qualify as a
> regular "haiku" ;-)

I concur and it is not in Japanese, either.

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 12:49:38
Message: <4c5302a2@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the 

> project petters slowly out.
> 
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and sea
l 
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
> 
	Nice. Reminds me of Mick Hazelgrove's work
(http://www.mhazelgrove.fsnet.co.uk/ for all the youngsters who
don't remember him).

		Jerome
-- 
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http://jeberger.free.fr
Jabber: jeb### [at] jabberfr


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 12:58:19
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Inspiration is all we need really.

Not according to the Beatles ;P


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 30 Jul 2010 19:43:42
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Once every so many years, I intend to learn Chinese, and each time the 
> project petters slowly out.
> 
> In 2003, I built this landscape, to which I added the ideograms and seal 
> with a paint program. I don't remember if I ever showed it here.
> 
> Now, I revisited the scene, upgraded the code to 3.7 beta 38, and added the 
> ideograms and seal with screen,inc.
> 
> Finally, also with screen.inc, I gave the image the aspect of old paper.
> 
> I like it :-)
> 
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 

There is something about cg art, especially ray-tracing, that seems to 
elevate the art of the pastiche.  This is a gorgeous example.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 31 Jul 2010 03:12:15
Message: <4c53cccf$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht 
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> There is something about cg art, especially ray-tracing, that seems to 
> elevate the art of the pastiche.  This is a gorgeous example.

You are absolutely correct, Jim. There is that fascination in trying to 
recreate in cg what exists otherwise. It feels like the early photographers 
recomposing early paintings, sometimes to excellent effect.

Happily, cg is not only that, but it plays a significant role.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 31 Jul 2010 03:13:15
Message: <4c53cd0b$1@news.povray.org>
Long time no see Mick here....   :-(

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 31 Jul 2010 03:13:40
Message: <4c53cd24@news.povray.org>
"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> schreef in bericht 
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> tres cool!

Thanks! :-)

Thomas


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003)
Date: 31 Jul 2010 17:37:47
Message: <4c5497ab$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Long time no see Mick here....   :-(
> 
	Yes, unfortunately. I loved what he used to do...

		Jerome
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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 2 Aug 2010 04:22:53
Message: <4c56805d@news.povray.org>
>Thomas de Groot  on date 29/07/2010 13:45 wrote:
> A larger version here.
>
> Some technical details:
> - height_field made with Leveller
> - water texture by Gilles Tran
> - island, boat, and figure are meshes, originally modelled with Hamapatch
> - trees through macros by Tom Aust and Paul T. Dawson
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
Superb.
Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 2 Aug 2010 10:38:06
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"Paolo Gibellini" <p.g### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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> Superb.

Thank you, Paolo!

Thomas


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 5 Aug 2010 11:28:01
Message: <4c5ad881$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/29/2010 06:45 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Thomas

Excellent. Your having achieved such a faithful interpretation of the 
original style, an interesting direction for a series would be a 
succession of increasingly interpretive, less faithful variants.

  -Shay


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 6 Aug 2010 03:51:09
Message: <4c5bbeed@news.povray.org>
"Shay" <n@n.n> schreef in bericht news:4c5ad881$1@news.povray.org...
> On 07/29/2010 06:45 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Thomas
>
> Excellent. Your having achieved such a faithful interpretation of the 
> original style, an interesting direction for a series would be a 
> succession of increasingly interpretive, less faithful variants.

Yes, I have been thinking along that line too :-)  This one really was an 
exercice in reproduction, also for technical reasons. Next steps would 
necessarily depart from that, if only to allow creative freedom in again. 
Maybe one day. Life is short ;-)

Thomas


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From: Dre
Subject: Re: Morning on the lake (revisited from 2003) - large version
Date: 8 Aug 2010 18:33:16
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
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>
> "Dre" <and### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4c52131c@news.povray.org...
>> You can rotate a ground fog?!?!?  I had no idea, but thats so cool!
>
> No, you do not *rotate* the ground fog, but orient the up parameter 
> differently, like this:
>
> up  <0, 0.5, -0.2>
>
> Simple and effective :-)
>
> Thomas
>
>

Oh ok, cool, thanks!

Cheers Dre


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