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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 14 Oct 2009 05:22:13
Message: <4ad59845@news.povray.org>
This is a first wip for a couple of scenes I have in mind.

The sky was fist rendered alone as an exr image, using media code by Abe 
Madey. In the scene, this exr image was included as hdri probe; a sun was 
added at the appropriate place; landscape elements added too; radiosity 
brightness was scaled down to 0.5; water is just a blue plane and the object 
is a placeholder; trees by POV-Tree and grass patches by Scott.

I use a ground fog here. I already experimented with a media, but it is 
going to be difficult to emulate this fog correctly. Any idea what I should 
look at particularly?

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All the best,

Thomas


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From: Carlo C 
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 14 Oct 2009 10:45:02
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> This is a first wip for a couple of scenes I have in mind.
>
> The sky was fist rendered alone as an exr image, using media code by Abe
> Madey. In the scene, this exr image was included as hdri probe; a sun was
> added at the appropriate place; landscape elements added too; radiosity
> brightness was scaled down to 0.5; water is just a blue plane and the object
> is a placeholder; trees by POV-Tree and grass patches by Scott.
>
> I use a ground fog here. I already experimented with a media, but it is
> going to be difficult to emulate this fog correctly. Any idea what I should
> look at particularly?
>
> --
> All the best,
>
> Thomas

I have no ideas, but I find the scene very melancholy.
Ergo, I like it!


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 14 Oct 2009 13:55:56
Message: <4ad610ac$1@news.povray.org>
A Monolith?

Very nice, I look forward to seeing the next version.

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Stephen


"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
news:4ad59845@news.povray.org...
> This is a first wip for a couple of scenes I have in mind.
>
> The sky was fist rendered alone as an exr image, using media code by Abe 
> Madey. In the scene, this exr image was included as hdri probe; a sun was 
> added at the appropriate place; landscape elements added too; radiosity 
> brightness was scaled down to 0.5; water is just a blue plane and the 
> object is a placeholder; trees by POV-Tree and grass patches by Scott.
>
> I use a ground fog here. I already experimented with a media, but it is 
> going to be difficult to emulate this fog correctly. Any idea what I 
> should look at particularly?
>
> -- 
> All the best,
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 15 Oct 2009 04:00:17
Message: <4ad6d691$1@news.povray.org>
"Carlo C." <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
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>
> I have no ideas, but I find the scene very melancholy.
> Ergo, I like it!
>

No problem, thank you, Carlo.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 15 Oct 2009 04:02:33
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"Stephen" <mcavoys[at]aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
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>A Monolith?

Hehe... Yes, that would be very close to one of the scenes I have in mind 
indeed, with a number of adaptations. The other scene will have a different 
kind of object :-)

>
> Very nice, I look forward to seeing the next version.

Thanks. Stay tuned.

Thomas


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 15 Oct 2009 06:20:00
Message: <web.4ad6f66a7741b1216dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys[at]aolDOTcom> wrote:
> A Monolith?

Hoho, that was my first thought also :)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 15 Oct 2009 15:33:27
Message: <4ad77907@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
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>
> "Stephen" <mcavoys[at]aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4ad610ac$1@news.povray.org...
>>A Monolith?
>
> Hehe... Yes, that would be very close to one of the scenes I have in mind 
> indeed, with a number of adaptations. The other scene will have a 
> different kind of object :-)
>

Hmm! :-)

>>
>> Very nice, I look forward to seeing the next version.
>
> Thanks. Stay tuned.
>

And turned on ;)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip)
Date: 15 Oct 2009 15:36:20
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"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> "Stephen" <mcavoys[at]aolDOTcom> wrote:
>> A Monolith?
>
> Hoho, that was my first thought also :)
>

It makes me want to model a 1950's space station.

La da de da. :-)

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip)
Date: 16 Oct 2009 09:54:21
Message: <4ad87b0d@news.povray.org>
For those of you with a Monolithic obsession, this is for you :-)

Pylons by somebody I have been unable to identify (2002); city macro by Mike 
Williams; grasstex macro by Rune Johansen.

Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip)
Date: 16 Oct 2009 15:47:15
Message: <4ad8cdc3@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> For those of you with a Monolithic obsession, this is for you :-)
> 
> Pylons by somebody I have been unable to identify (2002); city macro by Mike 
> Williams; grasstex macro by Rune Johansen.
> 
> Thomas 
> 
> 
> 
Cool!


Alain


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 19 Oct 2009 10:24:27
Message: <4adc769b@news.povray.org>
A step closer to completion. Still work to do on fences and enclosures 
and... see if I can get some media right for this image.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 19 Oct 2009 12:48:14
Message: <4adc984e$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> A step closer to completion. Still work to do on fences and enclosures 
> and... see if I can get some media right for this image.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
Arrg! It is no longer a monolith but a standing stone. I might have to 
re-evaluate my scoring ;)
Thanks for the mention BTW :)


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	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 20 Oct 2009 03:07:57
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"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
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> Arrg! It is no longer a monolith but a standing stone. I might have to 
> re-evaluate my scoring ;)

Life is tough  ;-)
The monolith is not really filling the bill in my perception of this scene, 
and the one that will be the *mirror* so to speak of this.

> Thanks for the mention BTW :)

I had to! :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 20 Oct 2009 15:39:58
Message: <4ade120e$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4adc984e$1@news.povray.org...
>> Arrg! It is no longer a monolith but a standing stone. I might have to 
>> re-evaluate my scoring ;)
> 
> Life is tough  ;-)

So it is :)

> The monolith is not really filling the bill in my perception of this scene, 
> and the one that will be the *mirror* so to speak of this.
> 

Well I'm glad that you used the monolith in the Tina Chep. It could have 
been a lost scene from 2001. :D

>> Thanks for the mention BTW :)
> 
> I had to! :-)
> 

Dank U well

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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 22 Oct 2009 03:57:39
Message: <4ae01073$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
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> Well I'm glad that you used the monolith in the Tina Chep. It could have 
> been a lost scene from 2001. :D

Indeed. In any case, I keep the monolith option available in my scene. Just 
a matter of switches.

>
> Dank U well

Graag gedaan :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 22 Oct 2009 13:27:25
Message: <4ae095fd@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4ade120e$1@news.povray.org...
>> Well I'm glad that you used the monolith in the Tina Chep. It could have 
>> been a lost scene from 2001. :D
> 
> Indeed. In any case, I keep the monolith option available in my scene. Just 
> a matter of switches.
> 

Ooo! A coder ;)

>> Dank U well
> 
> Graag gedaan :-)
> 

My pleasure :)

Ah! How would you write “For statistical use only” in het Nederlands? It 
is for a label in a program and I don’t trust Bablefish to give anything 
other than a literal translation.

Mercy buckets ;)


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 22 Oct 2009 14:55:07
Message: <4ae0aa8b@news.povray.org>
That's certainly moody.

Is that woman trying to pull an Obelix? ;)

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 24 Oct 2009 08:10:34
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"Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Ah! How would you write “For statistical use only” in het Nederlands? It 
> is for a label in a program and I don’t trust Bablefish to give anything 
> other than a literal translation.

I would say:  "Uitsluitend voor statistisch gebruik" But maybe there exists 
a truly official expression for it of which I am not aware. However, this 
seems to cover the bill I believe.

> Mercy buckets ;)

There's a hole in mine.... ;-0

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 24 Oct 2009 08:12:35
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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> That's certainly moody.
>
> Is that woman trying to pull an Obelix? ;)

The woman is about twelve years old, so she will not succeed... But yes, it 
seems she has mischief in mind.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 24 Oct 2009 08:42:40
Message: <4ae2f640$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen" <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4ae095fd@news.povray.org...
>> Ah! How would you write “For statistical use only” in het Nederlands? It 
>> is for a label in a program and I don’t trust Bablefish to give anything 
>> other than a literal translation.
> 
> I would say:  "Uitsluitend voor statistisch gebruik" But maybe there exists 
> a truly official expression for it of which I am not aware. However, this 
> seems to cover the bill I believe.
> 

Thanks Thomas.

>> Mercy buckets ;)
> 
> There's a hole in mine.... ;-0
> 

Well fix it dear Thomas
Fix it ;P


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 24 Oct 2009 08:45:32
Message: <4ae2f6ec$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4ae0aa8b@news.povray.org...
>> That's certainly moody.
>>
>> Is that woman trying to pull an Obelix? ;)
> 
> The woman is about twelve years old, so she will not succeed... But yes, it 
> seems she has mischief in mind.
> 

Asterix comes to mind :)

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	Stephen


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Over the fields (wip 2)
Date: 24 Oct 2009 16:36:46
Message: <4ae3655e$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis a écrit :
> That's certainly moody.
> 
> Is that woman trying to pull an Obelix? ;)
> 
Obelix is a menhir (standing stone) carver who carries them in his hands 
for deliveries.
He would barely notice what that lady is doing, but would gladly play 
the game.

http://www.dbis.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~michalek/obelix.gif


Alain


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip 3)
Date: 29 Oct 2009 11:26:58
Message: <4ae9b442@news.povray.org>
Thanks to Ive and TerragenSky.inc, I rediscovered Terragen.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip 3)
Date: 29 Oct 2009 14:38:04
Message: <4ae9e10c$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Thanks to Ive and TerragenSky.inc, I rediscovered Terragen.
> 
> Thomas
> 

Ha! Parallel shadows ;)

I may have to look at this too :)
Nice one!

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	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 2 Nov 2009 07:15:30
Message: <4aeecd62@news.povray.org>
Just a first, wild *shot*, and you can say what you want, but I like this 
impressionistic render :-)

Using Edouard's 35mm camera macro.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 2 Nov 2009 07:54:01
Message: <4aeed669$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Just a first, wild *shot*, and you can say what you want, but I like this 
> impressionistic render :-)
> 
> Using Edouard's 35mm camera macro.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
I’ve always liked pointillism.
Ergo I like this. :D


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	Stephen


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 2 Nov 2009 18:45:00
Message: <web.4aef6eb3da9410214726e92b0@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Just a first, wild *shot*, and you can say what you want, but I like this
> impressionistic render :-)
>
> Using Edouard's 35mm camera macro.
>
> Thomas

Yes, that's a nice effect Thomas, I like this!
I'm *really* going to have to start toying with some of Edouard's macros, I'm
missing out...

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 3 Nov 2009 03:15:54
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"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Yes, that's a nice effect Thomas, I like this!
> I'm *really* going to have to start toying with some of Edouard's macros, 
> I'm
> missing out...
>

I have been raving for quite some time about photography and focal blur and 
such, never remembering those perfect little macros to just do what I rave 
about. Time has come I think to amend that. :-)

Thomas


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 3 Nov 2009 04:48:01
Message: <4aeffc51@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Just a first, wild *shot*, and you can say what you want, but I like this 
> impressionistic render :-)
> 

Me too, and just as a side note: meanwhile I do always use focal blur 
even when there is in fact no blurring visible at all (by using very 
small aperture) because compared to high quality AA settings focal blur 
gives better results in less time. Especially things like the wires in 
your image will even with insane AA settings render with 'gaps' but with 
fairly moderate FB settings they will show as thin lines as they should.

And for the (non-)parallel shadows. In the TC entry it looked to me like 
the shadow lines are merging at a point approximately at the tree line, 
and this seems too close and thus non-parallel shadows, but after 
thinking about it this might be an illusion and the problem seems to be 
(especially given the sun size) there should be no sharp shadows from 
the tree tops at all. In this respect your wip 3 shot looks perfect to 
me. But I did like the calm sky from your TC entry better than the more 
dramatic one you did make with Terragen - but thats just me ;)

-Ive


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Across the fields (wip) with 35mm camera macro
Date: 3 Nov 2009 08:40:36
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"Ive" <"ive### [at] lilysoftorg"> schreef in bericht 
news:4aeffc51@news.povray.org...
> Me too, and just as a side note: meanwhile I do always use focal blur even 
> when there is in fact no blurring visible at all (by using very small 
> aperture) because compared to high quality AA settings focal blur gives 
> better results in less time. Especially things like the wires in your 
> image will even with insane AA settings render with 'gaps' but with fairly 
> moderate FB settings they will show as thin lines as they should.

I agree, as I slowly begin to realize the implications of focal blur. Call 
me stupid, but I always need *some*  time to adjust to a new world vision 
:-)
That said, I am currently experimenting with the different cameras and 
settings, and I am curious to see how the power lines are going to show in 
particular. Render time is certainly not prohibitive in relation to aa.

>
> And for the (non-)parallel shadows. In the TC entry it looked to me like 
> the shadow lines are merging at a point approximately at the tree line, 
> and this seems too close and thus non-parallel shadows, but after thinking 
> about it this might be an illusion and the problem seems to be (especially 
> given the sun size) there should be no sharp shadows from the tree tops at 
> all. In this respect your wip 3 shot looks perfect to me. But I did like 
> the calm sky from your TC entry better than the more dramatic one you did 
> make with Terragen - but thats just me ;)

Yes, I know what you mean. The sharp tree shadows in my first wip are mainly 
due to the use of a point light. An area light should replace it of course.

Thomas


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