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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 22 Sep 2009 06:57:34
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"Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote in message 
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> That's a great image. It's so crisp that I keep looking for artifacts, but 
> I can't find any. The lighting, the colors, and the shapes are all very 
> appealing.

thanks! almost seven hours (not counting rad run) on my poor old single core 
machine ... +am2 +a0.1 +r2


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 22 Sep 2009 10:45:58
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The lamp is awesome!
Perhaps the edges of the table are too sharp compared to the object on 
his surface.
Nice work!
;-)
Paolo

 >Jim Holsenback  on date 21/09/2009 13:50 wrote:
> This is the brass lamp that I'd been working on for a while. I finally 
> solved the problems with the lamp globe.
> 
> Came up with the normal on the globe after working through Warps slope map 
> tutorial!
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
>


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 22 Sep 2009 11:41:42
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I like how you dared to put the lamp somewhere else than at the very
center of the image. The main object at the very center of the image is
almost always a very poor choice of composition (although there are some
exceptions). Being slightly on the side gives a much stronger artistic
feeling to the image.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 23 Sep 2009 04:56:12
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"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> schreef in bericht 
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> "Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
> news:4ab884a8@news.povray.org...
>> Excellent work, Jim. The only thing I find a bit perturbing is the big 
>> yellowish shadow on the wall as it does not relate to something visible 
>> or even recognizable in the scene. Maybe that needs some thought.
>
> Hmmm .... the lamp flame?
>

That big shadow carving out a triangle on the back wall is not made by the 
lamp flame I guess? or is it? I cannot relate it to something and it is what 
troubles me :-)

Thomas


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 23 Sep 2009 06:55:22
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> That big shadow carving out a triangle on the back wall is not made by the 
> lamp flame I guess? or is it? I cannot relate it to something and it is 
> what troubles me :-)
>
I see it as a shadow from a more luminous and remote lamp to something as a 
stair and its post.
I like it because it gives us a hint of the scene behind the camera :-)

Marc


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 24 Sep 2009 03:24:40
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"m_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht 
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>>
> I see it as a shadow from a more luminous and remote lamp to something as 
> a stair and its post.
> I like it because it gives us a hint of the scene behind the camera :-)

That is what I thought too... but there is something in the geometry or in 
the relative position of this shadow that I find disturbing... I am unable 
to be much clearer I am afraid.

On the other hand, it nicely frames the lamp.

Thomas


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 24 Sep 2009 04:59:55
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote in message 
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> That big shadow carving out a triangle on the back wall is not made by the 
> lamp flame I guess? or is it? I cannot relate it to something and it is 
> what troubles me :-)
>
> Thomas

There is a big window and you are seeing the shadow of the framework of that 
window (half moon shape in center with panels forming a larger half moon). 
Having the light from the lamp as the only light source was a problem. The 
wideness of the base just under the lamp globe made a zone of darkness and I 
needed an outside light source to get the lamp base looking like I wanted.

Jim


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 24 Sep 2009 05:13:53
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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>  I like how you dared to put the lamp somewhere else than at the very
> center of the image. The main object at the very center of the image is
> almost always a very poor choice of composition (although there are some
> exceptions). Being slightly on the side gives a much stronger artistic
> feeling to the image.

Thanks .... used a subtle trick I discovered by mistake! Basically the 
camera orbits the table located at origin, depending how much "zoom" you use 
a very small rotation of the camera around the origin works nicely. In this 
case just 5 degrees.

Jim


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 24 Sep 2009 05:19:00
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"Paolo Gibellini" <p.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> The lamp is awesome!
> Perhaps the edges of the table are too sharp compared to the object on his 
> surface.
> Nice work!
> ;-)
> Paolo

Ha-ha ... I've already started work on the table. I've made a "tool" (box 
differened by a cylinder) that I'm using to trim some of the edges. The lamp 
DID turn out nice .... Thanks


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Brass Lamp
Date: 25 Sep 2009 04:25:09
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"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> schreef in bericht 
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>
> There is a big window and you are seeing the shadow of the framework of 
> that window (half moon shape in center with panels forming a larger half 
> moon). Having the light from the lamp as the only light source was a 
> problem. The wideness of the base just under the lamp globe made a zone of 
> darkness and I needed an outside light source to get the lamp base looking 
> like I wanted.
>

Yes, I thought it was something like that. Maybe it is the alignment of the 
window's shadow with the table which should be shifted a tiny bit in order 
to break its symmetry. It is rather subtle what I have in mind and would 
need a bit of experimentation. Also the wall would be great with fine lines 
or cracks here and there, and/or some irregularities... Oh well, I should 
stop now ;-)

To be sure, this is a great scene anyway, Jim, especially the lamp, but also 
the feeling/touch of the objects.

Thomas


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