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Jim Charter wrote:
> Oh yeah? What school?
Northern Illinois University. Only took 2 years worth before moving to
Florida, tho.
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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clipka <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote:
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> Still, I really don't like shots /without/ any focal blur. Aside from
> giving a sense of scale, it also gives a sense of depth, and helps add
> emphasis to some elements of the image (by literally putting them in
> focus), so you lose a lot if you don't use at least some subtle focal blur.
I tend to agree (even though I almost never use it in my POV scenes--due
primarily to the length of time it takes to render! I get impatient...) Thomas
mentioned some of the great photographers/filmmakers who didn't seem to want or
need it--Cartier Bresson, Frank Capra--and their work is of course quite
beautiful. Yet my own 'favorites' are the cinematographers (mostly of the
pre-1960's) who selectively used DOF for 'zero-ing in' on the important
elements of a scene, particularly close-ups of actors. Used well, DOF can take
a very 'cluttered' scene and bring out the most important element, focusing
attention on it (the surrounding details being even detrimental to the
emotional response that was intended.) Though I admit that part of that
*artistic decision* was purely a technical one--a rather shallow depth of field
due to 'slow' camera lenses of the time; and, for example, the 3-strip
Technicolor camera, which required enormous amounts of light--oftentimes
impractical. But given those limitations, some great art was achieved
nonetheless, with a true 'style.'
Regarding the first image here, I do have to agree with some of what Thomas has
said, though: I think the image would have been more effective if the cat had
been more or less totally in-focus, with perhaps a detailed background of some
sort that could then have been thrown *out* of focus. As-is, the cat looks
like a *very* tiny figure that the photographer had trouble focusing
on--there's no obvious 'point of interest.'
Ken W.
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Stephen wrote:
> I agree, I'm not a great fan of focal blur myself, I seldom use it preferring
> fog to cover up inadequacies in an image. :)
I have a tendency to go overboard with effects like focal blur, media,
radiosity, et cetera. Typically, I have to force myself to dial it back
to where it's barely noticeable... which is often where it looks best ;)
...Chambers
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> It's alright ;) Everything is subjective of course!
Not to me, it isn't!
;)
...Chambers
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
news:4a89f1c4@news.povray.org...
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> The closest I have come to a universal tenent with Art is:
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> "Meaning lies with the viewer."
>
> Sometimes tough to accept.
>
> Othertimes no help at all.
>
Yes indeed, and which underlines the fact that debates similar to these now
have been raging for many, many decades.
Thomas
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
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> A study in comparative sentience? The plane in focus defines the closest
> part of the cat to the viewer and the framing of the shot places that
> plane of focus almost coincident with the picture surface. So the picture
> space begins just at the limit of the cat's bodily space along the viewing
> axis.
>
> What humans sentiently perceive to be their personal, bodily space is a
> very important thing to them psychologically. At a very basic level it
> involves a sense of self. What about cats?
I mentioned to Mike and, re-examining the photograph again, I become even
more convinced that the real troublemaker is the cat itself. Your comment
here seems to confirm this. The cat's personality (as the expression of
self-awareness which cats certainly possess) draws the viewer to its eyes in
an absolutely compulsive way, which makes any other possibility of focus
impossible, with the exception maybe of the point of its nose :-)
There are cases where the personality of the subject completely subjugates
the artist's actions. I know this can happen in photography, I think this
can also happen in portrait painting.
Thomas
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"Mike Raiford" <mraXXXiford.at.@g1023mail.com> schreef in bericht
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> The critter in it's original texturing ...
>
>
> Now.... to customize the texture!
LOL!
I love this.
Thomas
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I absolutely agree with what you are saying.
Thomas
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BTW, this is the first render ... Same DOF as the crystal one,
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:31:38 -0400, Tim Cook wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
>> Oh yeah? What school?
>
> Northern Illinois University. Only took 2 years worth before moving to
> Florida, tho.
Small world, I've got a friend who works in the IT department at NIU....
Jim
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