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I usually stick to SDL because I can't model anything,
but I stumbled across a free beta version of a piece of
software claiming to be the easiest 3D modeller:
http://www.cbmodelpro.com/
It actually has a very nice user interface and was seriously
fun to play with. Not sure if it has enough control for those
people who actually *can* model, but a nice way to get
organic shapes for someone like me.
Oh, and it wasn't my intention to model anything naughty,
just happened to start out with a sphere and the pull point
tool and free association took over ;)
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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfr de> wrote:
> Oh, and it wasn't my intention to model anything naughty,
Naughty? How do you mean?
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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht
news:49694448@news.povray.org...
>I usually stick to SDL because I can't model anything,
> but I stumbled across a free beta version of a piece of
> software claiming to be the easiest 3D modeller:
>
> http://www.cbmodelpro.com/
>
> It actually has a very nice user interface and was seriously
> fun to play with. Not sure if it has enough control for those
> people who actually *can* model, but a nice way to get
> organic shapes for someone like me.
Interesting. Shall have to try it...
Thomas
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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> http://www.cbmodelpro.com/
They don't say what their licensing model will be once they leave beta phase, do
they?
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On 11-Jan-09 3:22, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
>> Oh, and it wasn't my intention to model anything naughty,
>
> Naughty? How do you mean?
>
I would have understood it if Christian was American. Now I am as
surprised as you are.
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clipka wrote:
> Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
>> http://www.cbmodelpro.com/
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> They don't say what their licensing model will be once they leave beta phase, do
> they?
It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)
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andrel wrote:
>> Naughty? How do you mean?
>>
> I would have understood it if Christian was American. Now I am as
> surprised as you are.
Yes, well, its more the other way round, when posting in
a public newsgroup you don't know who is easily offended.
I recall even an IRTC winner with a nude female ghost
got a bit of a negative comment for that ;)
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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht
news:4969dbca@news.povray.org...
> It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
> I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
> indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
> with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)
Commercial application (Dassault Systèmes) indeed, but I expect it will
probably not be very expensive once beyond the beta stage, as they want
[quote] to promote the discovery and use of 3D to all kinds of consumers, in
particular young users [unquote].
Thomas
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On 11-Jan-09 12:50, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>
>>> Naughty? How do you mean?
>>>
>> I would have understood it if Christian was American. Now I am as
>> surprised as you are.
>
> Yes, well, its more the other way round, when posting in
> a public newsgroup you don't know who is easily offended.
> I recall even an IRTC winner with a nude female ghost
> got a bit of a negative comment for that ;)
Ah, OK. I think the preferred way is to make that clear in the subject.
As in "CB Model Pro [mild nudity]" or even in this case "CB Model Pro
[possible to interpret as mild nudity with a dirty mind]". So easily
offended people can decide not to look, now you read it while the
picture is already on the screen.
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht
> news:4969dbca@news.povray.org...
>> It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
>> I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
>> indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
>> with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)
>
> Commercial application (Dassault Systèmes) indeed, but I expect it will
> probably not be very expensive once beyond the beta stage, as they want
> [quote] to promote the discovery and use of 3D to all kinds of consumers, in
> particular young users [unquote].
Yes, apparently it's based on a technology they initially
developped for kids, which suits my skills just fine ;)
http://www.cosmicblobs.com/
The only thing I can't quite understand is their interest in
spreading the beta and asking for feedback via the forums, but
limiting forum access (even view) to existing customers. I'm
still searching for any kind of email contact to ask if that
is intentional, as I already found a reproducible crash
which I thought it would be nice of me to report.
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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> I'm still searching for any kind of email contact
I'm so blind, there is a support email address on the
forum redirect page ;)
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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>
> It actually has a very nice user interface and was seriously
> fun to play with. Not sure if it has enough control for those
> people who actually *can* model, but a nice way to get
> organic shapes for someone like me.
>
Yes I think that is about right. It offers the next 'level of
abstraction,' so to speak, such that the user does not worry about
underlying geometry but rather manipulates only the look of the figure.
I think an early tool that does something like this was Z-Brush. I have
not looked at Z-Brush in years and I assume, that, as a professional
tool, it would also let you access the actual geometry if you wanted to.
You can get Wings3D to do some of these things, but again, you have to
jump through hoops, but again, you get more control. (Imagine if the
'Poke' tool could be made any shape, not just a sphere.)
The tool is clearly aimed at children. For grown-ups this looks like a
great tool in the keep-it-simple vein. Your first effort has a charming
primitive art feel.
Notice that it cannot import externally produced geometry, btw.
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Jim Charter wrote:
> Your first effort has a charming primitive art feel.
Thanks, I'll try to feel flattered by that ;)
> Notice that it cannot import externally produced geometry, btw.
Yes, although it can import simple obj files which are meant
to be a control mesh for the freeform surfaces. But I'm more
interested in getting something to export anyway. Seems like
I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.
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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht
news:496a104e$1@news.povray.org...
Seems like
> I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.
That is a *sine qua non* (latin for: not possible without (very free
translation) )
Thomas
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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
>
>> Your first effort has a charming primitive art feel.
>
>
> Thanks, I'll try to feel flattered by that ;)
>
You should, actually, I strive for that look with only partial success.
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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.
Ok, got it, so I could make a first attempt at
model -> export -> render.
I quickly noticed this chain is actually more like
model -> export -> import poseray -> fix data -> export
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+--- some problem - + |
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adapt SDL --> perform test render -> perform final render
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+- object not quite where --+ |
it should be |
V
Admire mesh artefacts
(if you see a mess above you have variable font width).
But, ta-dah, here it is. I'm not really sure I understand
the details of who creates and uses which uv mapping, but
after texturing and painting an object inside CB Model Pro
and going through Poseray, everything seems to end up where
it should be. Unfortunately the modeller exports the mtl
file always with ambient, diffuse and specular = 1 which
looks rather silly and needs to be fixed by hand.
On the plus side, all geometric transformation automatically
work on the textures as well, so I could apply the clock
texture (just a cellphone photo of my wall clock) to
the non-liquified clock *before* bending it.
Possible problems with texturing in CB Model Pro:
o All uv-mapped textures seems to end up with
a measly resolution of 256x256.
o Stretching textures does not seem to work, though
applying textures and stretching geometry does.
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> That is a *sine qua non* (latin for: not possible without (very free
> translation) )
.... or, literally, "without which not"...
(which is to say, your "very free" translation quite hits the spot already)
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Maybe this angle shows better how the texture
was bent with the geometry - and hides the ugly
mesh corner at the back side ;)
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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> But, ta-dah, here it is.
Looks like a fitting topic for the current TINA-CHeP contest round...
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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote in message
news:496a561c@news.povray.org...
> Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>
>> I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.
>
> Ok, got it, so I could make a first attempt at
>
> model -> export -> render.
>
> I quickly noticed this chain is actually more like
>
> model -> export -> import poseray -> fix data -> export
> ^ | |
> +--- some problem - + |
> |
> |
> +-----------------------------------------------+
>
> V
> adapt SDL --> perform test render -> perform final render
> ^ | |
> +- object not quite where --+ |
> it should be |
> V
> Admire mesh artefacts
>
> (if you see a mess above you have variable font width).
>
>
> But, ta-dah, here it is.
LOL, that image is REALLY good! :) And the path you have taken is normal
for 3rd party modeling progs.
Keep at it and relish FlyerX's brilliant program because if he didn't
produce it, us modellers would be nowhere.
~Steve~
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clipka wrote:
> Looks like a fitting topic for the current TINA-CHeP contest round...
guess where i looked for inspiration on some test object to model ;)
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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> o Stretching textures does not seem to work, though
> applying textures and stretching geometry does.
>
interesting approach. Of course it depends what you mean by 'works'
For instance, you have a rusty pot, then you add a bulge to the pot.
Does the grain of the rust expand with the bulge or remain constant? I
suspect the former when you want the latter. On the other hand you have
a balloon with a happy face. You distaort the balloon and the happy
face distorts accordingly. This is the desired result.
No worries btw. When you get more sophisticated in all this you will
learn there are tools such as uv-mapper which will allow you to recreate
the uv's that the modelling tool originally assigns.
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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht
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> "Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
>> That is a *sine qua non* (latin for: not possible without (very free
>> translation) )
>
> .... or, literally, "without which not"...
>
> (which is to say, your "very free" translation quite hits the spot
> already)
>
<grin> my latin is extremely rusty these days.....
Thomas
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> > (which is to say, your "very free" translation quite hits the spot
> > already)
>
> <grin> my latin is extremely rusty these days.....
Well, mine has always been - never got polished in the first place ;) But some
of the basics still stick.
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"Cousin Ricky" <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> > Oh, and it wasn't my intention to model anything naughty,
>
> Naughty? How do you mean?
As in revolting and disgusting apparently, the reason I ignored it.
Now if she was hot, as in beauty, symmetry and magnificent splendor, I'd have to
see more.
Really a bad choice to post anything so ... disturbing might be the word I am
looking for ...
NOW! Anyone who gets offend at true grand majesty should be slapped up the
back-side of the head, because they are really just unspeakably jealous.
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