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after a day of basic textures tweaking.

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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Lacking some of the more difficult details (like faux stitching) and
> after a day of basic textures tweaking.
>
> Lighting thanks to Jaime's Studio Lighting include files.

Good attention to detail, as always.  You mean the ones she donated to charity
after the election?

 - Ricky

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"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
>   You mean the ones she donated to charity
> after the election?

Which charity?  The American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons?

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht 
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> Lacking some of the more difficult details (like faux stitching) and
> after a day of basic textures tweaking.
>
> Lighting thanks to Jaime's Studio Lighting include files.
>

Very nice work indeed. I like the texture.

[I always wonder how people are able to *use* those things without breaking 
their ankles.... :-) ]

Thomas

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triple_r wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>Lacking some of the more difficult details (like faux stitching) and
>>after a day of basic textures tweaking.
>>
>>Lighting thanks to Jaime's Studio Lighting include files.
> 
> 
> Good attention to detail, as always.  You mean the ones she donated to charity
> after the election?
> 
>  - Ricky
> 

Yes, the very ones!  Perhaps I didn't make that clear though, lol.  I do 
not take a particular interest in the governor's footwear. I decided to 
model these after they became 'famous' along with her eyewear and 
various clothing style choices, as part of Palin's Cinderella 
'celebrity' during the presidential campaign.

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Thomas de Groot wrote:

> 
> 
> Very nice work indeed. I like the texture.


Thanks :)


> 
> [I always wonder how people are able to *use* those things without breaking 
> their ankles.... :-) ]
> 


I suppose some questions are better left unexplored.

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Are you sure they smell good ?

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"danbo" <dbt### [at] freefr> wrote in message 
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> Are you sure they smell good ?

Are you just proposing that as an addition to the category "Questions better 
left unexplored"?

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danbo wrote:
> Are you sure they smell good ?
> 
> 
> 


Well, shoes like these have less to do with practical utility (by most 
definitions of utility) and more to do with sex.  It is held, especially 
by Freud who originally talked about it, that sexual fetishism for shoes 
is rooted in smell.  Fetishism, that is, which refers to the shoes 
themselves becoming the object of sexual desire.  But here the sex 
involved has more to do with issues of personal and public display.  The 
teetery high heels that have become in our culture a visual cue for 
'female' can also signify 'female on sexual display' but to relative 
degrees and depending on context.  Other design elements of the shoes, 
depending on context, would play into how they are interpreted as a 
choice for personal display.  My sense with these shoes and the Palin 
candicy was that they were intended to give a slightly playful accent to 
an otherwise upscale wardrobe.  But many people just saw 'tart'.

-Jim

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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Well, shoes like these have less to do with practical utility (by most
> definitions of utility)

Just heard on the radio about a woman wo has been wearing high heels ever since
she was 18 - even when at work... repairing cars!

She said the only day she ever wore different shoes, she nearly broke an ankle
when she promptly fell down the stairs ;)

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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Just heard on the radio about a woman wo has been wearing high heels ever 
> since
> she was 18 - even when at work... repairing cars!
>
> She said the only day she ever wore different shoes, she nearly broke an 
> ankle
> when she promptly fell down the stairs ;)
>
>

I shall always remain profoundly amazed by humankind....  :-)

Thomas

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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Just heard on the radio about a woman wo has been wearing high heels ever since
> she was 18 - even when at work... repairing cars!
>
> She said the only day she ever wore different shoes, she nearly broke an ankle
> when she promptly fell down the stairs ;)

Like those women I see wearing high heels at the laundromat.  Her bones must be
molded into that position so that she can no longer walk with her feet in a
natural state.

Does she wear high heels while exercising or playing sports?

Gee, how does she function when she's not wearing shoes at all?  Or does she
wear high heels at the beach, the swimming pool, the bathtub...?

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Cousin Ricky wrote:

> Does she wear high heels while exercising or playing sports?
> 

I seen that!  Soccer moms you know. Sexy in a way, watching a woman in 
heels, skirt, and makeup kick a ball around with her kid.

Actually I was with my daughter at the hockey rink recently and some 
woman actually walked out onto the ice in glossy red high heels!  That's 
what got me off on the Sarah Palin tangent.  Gloss red heels and hockey 
ice.  You'll get it if you watched her campaign.

Of course the other thing is the Meat Packing district in NY, where the 
NY clubbers go to play and women turn themselves out in the highest of 
heels to navigate the area's most treacherous of cobbles. Quite a sight.

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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> I seen that!  Soccer moms you know. Sexy in a way, watching a woman in
> heels, skirt, and makeup kick a ball around with her kid.

I know I'm different from almost every other man on Earth, but I find nothing
sexy about high heels.  In fact, I find them a major turn off.  The image of a
mom playing soccer in high heels just strikes me as pathological.

> Of course the other thing is the Meat Packing district in NY, where the
> NY clubbers go to play and women turn themselves out in the highest of
> heels to navigate the area's most treacherous of cobbles. Quite a sight.

That would gross me out.

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Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>I seen that!  Soccer moms you know. Sexy in a way, watching a woman in
>>heels, skirt, and makeup kick a ball around with her kid.
> 
> 
> I know I'm different from almost every other man on Earth, but I find nothing
> sexy about high heels.  In fact, I find them a major turn off.  The image of a
> mom playing soccer in high heels just strikes me as pathological.
> 

Oh come on, every 8-year-old thinks his mom is Marilyn, and having 
Marilyn come out and kick a soccer ball to you?  The thought is at least 
"cute".


> 
>>Of course the other thing is the Meat Packing district in NY, where the
>>NY clubbers go to play and women turn themselves out in the highest of
>>heels to navigate the area's most treacherous of cobbles. Quite a sight.
> 
> 
> That would gross me out.
> 
> 

There is a sadistic component to strappy high heels that is a turn on 
for some men; it is a turn off for me.  The idea, for instance, of a 
woman walking a mile in foot-biting fashion heels shoes is grotesque to 
me.  It is common in the summer when I am walking home in the early 
morning to see women wandering back from the clubs walking barefoot and 
carrying their stiletto heeled shoes.  It does strike me as something 
between grotesque and absurd.  But the whole Meat Packing scene with the 
crazy tilted cobbles (they must not have buried the bodies deep enough) 
and the elegant slaves-to-fashion tilting over them to get to a cab, 
leaves me more bemused at some of the ironies.

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> Cousin Ricky wrote:
> > I know I'm different from almost every other man on Earth, but I find nothing
> > sexy about high heels.  In fact, I find them a major turn off.  The image of a
> > mom playing soccer in high heels just strikes me as pathological.
>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Oh come on, every 8-year-old thinks his mom is Marilyn, and having
> Marilyn come out and kick a soccer ball to you?  The thought is at least
> "cute".

"Every"?

- I never imagined my mom as anyone other than my mom.

- I don't recall that I knew who Marilyn was when I was 8 (1971 - 72).

- I had no idea what a soccer ball was when I was 8.  I was 13 the first time
  I laid eyes on one (1976 - 77).  (By then, it would have been Farrah kicking
  balls, not Marilyn, who was indisposed at the time.  Come to think of it,
  she *was* kicking balls on _Charlie's Angels_.)

- I'm having trouble conjuring up an image of my mom kicking a soccer ball--
  either now or in 1971.

- I have found high heels alienating as long as I remember--at least to age 6.
  Call me different.  High heels had the immediate effect of making a woman
  seem distant and formal to me.

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht 
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[.....]  But the whole Meat Packing scene with the
> crazy tilted cobbles (they must not have buried the bodies deep enough)
[.....]

Too heavy vehicles, braking and pulling up on certain defined spots; too 
high velocity; too little maintenance....

At a certain stage, it happens to any cobbled road. There are a lot of those 
country roads in the surroundings where I live. They are hell for bicycling 
too... :-)

Thomas

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clipka nous illumina en ce 2009-01-10 03:27 -->
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>> Well, shoes like these have less to do with practical utility (by most
>> definitions of utility)
> 
> Just heard on the radio about a woman wo has been wearing high heels ever since
> she was 18 - even when at work... repairing cars!
> 
> She said the only day she ever wore different shoes, she nearly broke an ankle
> when she promptly fell down the stairs ;)
> 
> 
The explanation is prety simple:
Over the years of wearing high heels, her Achile tendon and tight muscle have 
shortened. Also, her way of walking have adapted to that unnatural posture. Now, 
when she use more normal shoes, it's like she have "high toes" shoes.

-- 
Alain
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I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.
Thomas Jefferson

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Cousin Ricky nous illumina en ce 2009-01-10 16:47 -->
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>> I seen that!  Soccer moms you know. Sexy in a way, watching a woman in
>> heels, skirt, and makeup kick a ball around with her kid.
> 
> I know I'm different from almost every other man on Earth, but I find nothing
> sexy about high heels.  In fact, I find them a major turn off.  The image of a
> mom playing soccer in high heels just strikes me as pathological.
> 
>> Of course the other thing is the Meat Packing district in NY, where the
>> NY clubbers go to play and women turn themselves out in the highest of
>> heels to navigate the area's most treacherous of cobbles. Quite a sight.
> 
> That would gross me out.
> 
> 
Last summer, I saw 3 girls. Two of them wearing sneakers, the third wearing high 
heel stilt shoes. One of them was about 6 feet tall, maybe some more. Guess who 
was wearing the stilt shoes?
Hint, she was looking well above the head of just about everybody in the area... 
and her two friends barely reatched her shoulders.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
You know you've been raytracing too long when you look at waterfalls, dust, 
rain, snow, etc, and think: "If only I had a fractalized, vector based 
particle-system modeler with collision detection!"

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Alain wrote:

> Last summer, I saw 3 girls. Two of them wearing sneakers, the third 
> wearing high heel stilt shoes. One of them was about 6 feet tall, maybe 
> some more. Guess who was wearing the stilt shoes?
> Hint, she was looking well above the head of just about everybody in the 
> area... and her two friends barely reatched her shoulders.
> 

Funny, well that just goes to show that the behavior is not rationally 
explained.  One might argue that, visually, the tall heels exaggerate 
and enhance the already long legs; one might also note that a petite 
woman could 'absorb' the extra height.  Even further contradictory, the 
taller woman would be getting proportionally, a smaller boost in height, 
the shorter woman a greater boost .

My wife is taller than me and so does not own or wear heels much higher 
than a medium 2 inches.  We just look ridiculous together when she does. 
  She walks along beside me with her arm over my shoulder like one would 
a child.

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht 
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> Funny, well that just goes to show that the behavior is not rationally 
> explained.  One might argue that, visually, the tall heels exaggerate and 
> enhance the already long legs; one might also note that a petite woman 
> could 'absorb' the extra height.  Even further contradictory, the taller 
> woman would be getting proportionally, a smaller boost in height, the 
> shorter woman a greater boost .
>
> My wife is taller than me and so does not own or wear heels much higher 
> than a medium 2 inches.  We just look ridiculous together when she does. 
> She walks along beside me with her arm over my shoulder like one would a 
> child.

Interestingly, you breach here the subject of why men - in general - dislike 
to be seen with a taller woman...

Thomas

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