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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 23 Sep 2008 19:02:41
Message: <48d97591$1@news.povray.org>
High!

Kepler? Probably I lack some background knowledge on how Kepler found 
the laws of planetary movement, I just see a rendition of (some) 
Platonic solids fitted into concentric spheres! What's so Keplerian 
about it?

See you in Khyberspace - www.khyberspace.de

Yadgar


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From: Jonathan Hunt
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 23 Sep 2008 20:18:42
Message: <48d98762$1@news.povray.org>

> Kepler? ... What's so Keplerian about it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterium_Cosmographicum

-- 
Jonathan Hunt
jon### [at] xlcuscom


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 10:57:35
Message: <48da555f$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> 80 = 20 here:
> #declare tiletex =
> texture {
>     pigment { uv_mapping
>       gradient x
>       pigment_map{
>         [1/20 rgb 0][1/20 gradient y
>           colour_map{
>             [1/20 rgb 0]
>             [1/20 rgb <0.78431, 0.78431, 0.78431>]
>           }
>         ]
>       }
>       scale -<1/10,1/20,1>
>     }
> }
> 
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3Cweb.48aaf1a091e8c8de6fa8d7740%40news.povray.org%3E/mirrorsp
> heres4.png
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3Cweb.48ab05fa91e8c8de6fa8d7740%40news.povray.org%3E/mirrorsp
> heres4.zip
> 

Thanks!  That will be quite helpful, I think.  I can see from your image 
that it works well.

-- 
// The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
#version 3.61;#include"functions.inc"global_settings{assumed_gamma
2.2}isosurface{function{-f_strophoid(x/2-.45,y,z*3,1,1.2,1,1.5)-.05}
contained_by{box{<-2.1,-1,-1/3>,<1.4,1,1/3>}}max_gradient 12inverse
hollow pigment{rgbf 1}interior{media{samples 8 emission<3,80,150>/255
density{crackle metric 1color_map{[0rgb 6][.03rgb 0][1rgb 0]}scale<1,
2,1>warp{turbulence<.5,.75,.5>}scale 1/3}}}translate z*3}


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 10:58:06
Message: <48da557e$1@news.povray.org>
Almalm wrote:
> Nice work! I like it!

Thanks very much!

-- 
// The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
#version 3.61;#include"functions.inc"global_settings{assumed_gamma
2.2}isosurface{function{-f_strophoid(x/2-.45,y,z*3,1,1.2,1,1.5)-.05}
contained_by{box{<-2.1,-1,-1/3>,<1.4,1,1/3>}}max_gradient 12inverse
hollow pigment{rgbf 1}interior{media{samples 8 emission<3,80,150>/255
density{crackle metric 1color_map{[0rgb 6][.03rgb 0][1rgb 0]}scale<1,
2,1>warp{turbulence<.5,.75,.5>}scale 1/3}}}translate z*3}


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 10:59:34
Message: <48da55d6$1@news.povray.org>
Karl Anders wrote:
> Me too, absolutely!
> 
> I just got a minor problem with posting on cgsphere.com...
> 
> Since a bit more than a week, I can't reach that site. Are they having problems
> or do I have problems?

Thanks!  I do recall I wasn't able to get connected to the site last 
week, but then the next day I was.  I haven't tried in a few days. 
Perhaps they are fiddling with the hardware.

-- 
// The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
#version 3.61;#include"functions.inc"global_settings{assumed_gamma
2.2}isosurface{function{-f_strophoid(x/2-.45,y,z*3,1,1.2,1,1.5)-.05}
contained_by{box{<-2.1,-1,-1/3>,<1.4,1,1/3>}}max_gradient 12inverse
hollow pigment{rgbf 1}interior{media{samples 8 emission<3,80,150>/255
density{crackle metric 1color_map{[0rgb 6][.03rgb 0][1rgb 0]}scale<1,
2,1>warp{turbulence<.5,.75,.5>}scale 1/3}}}translate z*3}


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 11:09:23
Message: <48da5823$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> He He!! Reminds me of my image back in 2005.
> 
> (My previous message got the wrong address. Should be:
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C42f0bd88%40news.povray.org%3E/?mtop=6
> 
> Nice!

Thanks, I knew this had been done before, but hadn't yet seen yours yet. 
  Very nice.  Glad I'm just shooting for a cgsphere, I think you've set 
the bar for a Kepler scene :)

-- 
// The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
#version 3.61;#include"functions.inc"global_settings{assumed_gamma
2.2}isosurface{function{-f_strophoid(x/2-.45,y,z*3,1,1.2,1,1.5)-.05}
contained_by{box{<-2.1,-1,-1/3>,<1.4,1,1/3>}}max_gradient 12inverse
hollow pigment{rgbf 1}interior{media{samples 8 emission<3,80,150>/255
density{crackle metric 1color_map{[0rgb 6][.03rgb 0][1rgb 0]}scale<1,
2,1>warp{turbulence<.5,.75,.5>}scale 1/3}}}translate z*3}


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 11:19:42
Message: <48da5a8e$1@news.povray.org>
Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> High!
> 
> Kepler? Probably I lack some background knowledge on how Kepler found 
> the laws of planetary movement, I just see a rendition of (some) 
> Platonic solids fitted into concentric spheres! What's so Keplerian 
> about it?

That's exactly what it is :)  Kepler noted similarities between how 
these platonic solids were nested and the orbital distances of the 
planets.  He published drawings of  this model in a work called the 
Mysterium Cosmographicum.  I think he wanted a real one to be made, but 
I don't think he ever did.

Check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterium_Cosmographicum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler#Mysterium_Cosmographicum

-- 
// The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
#version 3.61;#include"functions.inc"global_settings{assumed_gamma
2.2}isosurface{function{-f_strophoid(x/2-.45,y,z*3,1,1.2,1,1.5)-.05}
contained_by{box{<-2.1,-1,-1/3>,<1.4,1,1/3>}}max_gradient 12inverse
hollow pigment{rgbf 1}interior{media{samples 8 emission<3,80,150>/255
density{crackle metric 1color_map{[0rgb 6][.03rgb 0][1rgb 0]}scale<1,
2,1>warp{turbulence<.5,.75,.5>}scale 1/3}}}translate z*3}


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From: Rich
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 24 Sep 2008 19:56:42
Message: <48dad3ba@news.povray.org>
Blue Herring wrote:

> That's exactly what it is :)  Kepler noted similarities between how 
> these platonic solids were nested and the orbital distances of the 
> planets.  He published drawings of  this model in a work called the 
> Mysterium Cosmographicum.  I think he wanted a real one to be made, but 
> I don't think he ever did.

Kepler struggled for years with this idea, but did use models, probably 
cheaply and simply made by himself, with no success.  I don't remember 
if there was a "prescribed order" to the solids and nesting of same, 
only that each attempt sent him back to another fit of calculation.  It 
was the eccentricity of the orbit of Mars, when he finally got the data 
compiled by Tycho that led him to try to fit the orbit to an ellipse. 
But each of his three laws of planetary motion were many years between 
them.  An admirable and determined man that fully earned the title of 
scientist.

Rich


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 25 Sep 2008 03:11:09
Message: <48db398d$1@news.povray.org>
"Blue Herring" <pov### [at] bherringcotsenet> schreef in bericht 
news:48da5823$1@news.povray.org...
>  Glad I'm just shooting for a cgsphere, I think you've set the bar for a 
> Kepler scene :)

Oh don't say that! CGSphere demands high quality too!!  :-)
I am very curious to see how your scene is going to evolve.

Thomas


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From: Woody
Subject: Re: Kepler CGSphere
Date: 26 Sep 2008 08:00:01
Message: <web.48dcce59f01c7ef549b4acd50@news.povray.org>
Interesting.


Any chance you might be willing to share the source?


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