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before Myrna did become famous with the "Thin Man" movies
she appeared quite often as the "sinister Asian lady" in
b-pictures - probably most well known from this period:
"The Mask of Fu Manchu" from 1932.
A few years ago, while reading Thomas Pynchon's Vineland -
where one of the main characters starts to sing a song
about "...lookin' for that Myrna Loy" - I coincidently
found at a flee market an old signed picture card of her.
So I got interested in her work and carrier and now,
just for fun, have tried to create a Hollywood glamor shot
in the style of the early 30ies, featuring Myrna Loy...
The figure is Vicky 4.1 from DAZ. But as it was not possible
to morph her face into something that does come close to
Myrna's face (e.g. her nose was surprisingly big) I had to
do it the hard way and created my own "Myrna-Face-Morph"
with Blender by using all images of her that I could find as
reference.
The 30ies hairstyle was also a problem. As I am usually lazy,
I just wanted to buy one from DAZ or Renderosity, but did not
find any that looked the way I wanted. So I was finally forced
to created some "trans mapped" hair by myself. It looks not
very convincing in closeups but it is not so bad for a first
try. The flower is made with XFrog and PoseRay was used for
all the mesh conversion. The old style movie camera is just
some quick CSG.
The dragon is hand painted and imported with a flatbed scanner
into Photoshop where the image got its final touch.
Rendered with POV-Ray beta 25 using 7 lightsources (and the
new area_illumination feature does not only help in realistic
lighting, it also prevents mesh artefact's - thanks Warp).
Comments of course welcome and BTW the "Technicolor" version
is currently rendering.
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Outstanding, really! I would never have guessed it weren't a real photograph
from seventy years ago if I hadn't seen it here. Very nice job. Hand painted
dragon, huh?
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Very nice! Better than real.
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Wow. I sure don't need to tell you how impressive this is. At first the right
hand struck me as too posed, but then I realized it's supposed to be. And it'd
seem a shame to add film grain or a tone to such a nice clean image. So I guess
I can't even offer much for constructive criticism. Nice work.
- Ricky
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoft com> wrote in message news:480e840a@news.povray.org...
> before Myrna did become famous with the "Thin Man" movies
> she appeared quite often as the "sinister Asian lady" in
> b-pictures - probably most well known from this period:
> "The Mask of Fu Manchu" from 1932.
>
> A few years ago, while reading Thomas Pynchon's Vineland -
> where one of the main characters starts to sing a song
> about "...lookin' for that Myrna Loy" - I coincidently
> found at a flee market an old signed picture card of her.
> So I got interested in her work and carrier and now,
> just for fun, have tried to create a Hollywood glamor shot
> in the style of the early 30ies, featuring Myrna Loy...
>
> The figure is Vicky 4.1 from DAZ. But as it was not possible
> to morph her face into something that does come close to
> Myrna's face (e.g. her nose was surprisingly big) I had to
> do it the hard way and created my own "Myrna-Face-Morph"
> with Blender by using all images of her that I could find as
> reference.
> The 30ies hairstyle was also a problem. As I am usually lazy,
> I just wanted to buy one from DAZ or Renderosity, but did not
> find any that looked the way I wanted. So I was finally forced
> to created some "trans mapped" hair by myself. It looks not
> very convincing in closeups but it is not so bad for a first
> try. The flower is made with XFrog and PoseRay was used for
> all the mesh conversion. The old style movie camera is just
> some quick CSG.
> The dragon is hand painted and imported with a flatbed scanner
> into Photoshop where the image got its final touch.
> Rendered with POV-Ray beta 25 using 7 lightsources (and the
> new area_illumination feature does not only help in realistic
> lighting, it also prevents mesh artefact's - thanks Warp).
>
> Comments of course welcome and BTW the "Technicolor" version
> is currently rendering.
>
>
Absolutely jaw dropping!
Excellent work (and I love the fact that you used so many different programs
to make it!)
Cheers Dre
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Wow Ive!! You don't mess around. Fantastic job!
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[........]
Speechless!
Truly excellent work. Thanks for the explanations on how you got there.
Thomas
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Terrific return, Ive... the only clue that this isn't real are the hands,
too big perhaps. But the face is amazing: looking at her eyes it's difficult
to believe this is not a living person.
--
Jaime
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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> wrote:
> before Myrna did become famous with the "Thin Man" movies
> she appeared quite often as the "sinister Asian lady" in
> b-pictures - probably most well known from this period:
> "The Mask of Fu Manchu" from 1932.
>
> A few years ago, while reading Thomas Pynchon's Vineland -
> where one of the main characters starts to sing a song
> about "...lookin' for that Myrna Loy" - I coincidently
> found at a flee market an old signed picture card of her.
> So I got interested in her work and carrier and now,
> just for fun, have tried to create a Hollywood glamor shot
> in the style of the early 30ies, featuring Myrna Loy...
>
> The figure is Vicky 4.1 from DAZ. But as it was not possible
> to morph her face into something that does come close to
> Myrna's face (e.g. her nose was surprisingly big) I had to
> do it the hard way and created my own "Myrna-Face-Morph"
> with Blender by using all images of her that I could find as
> reference.
> The 30ies hairstyle was also a problem. As I am usually lazy,
> I just wanted to buy one from DAZ or Renderosity, but did not
> find any that looked the way I wanted. So I was finally forced
> to created some "trans mapped" hair by myself. It looks not
> very convincing in closeups but it is not so bad for a first
> try. The flower is made with XFrog and PoseRay was used for
> all the mesh conversion. The old style movie camera is just
> some quick CSG.
> The dragon is hand painted and imported with a flatbed scanner
> into Photoshop where the image got its final touch.
> Rendered with POV-Ray beta 25 using 7 lightsources (and the
> new area_illumination feature does not only help in realistic
> lighting, it also prevents mesh artefact's - thanks Warp).
>
> Comments of course welcome and BTW the "Technicolor" version
> is currently rendering.
I think it is technically perfect. Glacial atmosphere. Sublime.
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>Ive wrote:
> before Myrna did become famous with the "Thin Man" movies
> she appeared quite often as the "sinister Asian lady" in
> b-pictures - probably most well known from this period:
> "The Mask of Fu Manchu" from 1932.
> [cut]
Lovely!
;-)
Paolo
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
480e840a@news.povray.org...
That's truly fantastic!
The only (small) criticism I have is about composition :
I'd feel better if she had more room in front of her than behind.
Marc
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Impressive. Only criticism is that hands and arms, to a lesser extent, look
awkward. Left hand should make an S along the fingers and be more or less
flat across. Fingers on right hand look too straight
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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> wrote:
> before Myrna did become famous with the "Thin Man" movies
> she appeared quite often as the "sinister Asian lady" in
> b-pictures - probably most well known from this period:
> "The Mask of Fu Manchu" from 1932.
>
....
> Comments of course welcome and BTW the "Technicolor" version
> is currently rendering.
From a true Myrna fan: Splendid work! The image does a remarkable job of
conveying her complex character. It shows someone who has strength, charm and
humor all at once. Thank you for sharing this.
Best Regrads,
Mike C.
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
480e840a@news.povray.org...
> Comments of course welcome and BTW the "Technicolor" version
> is currently rendering.
Great image and one of the best use of a Poser model I've seen!
G.
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- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray, Cinema 4D and Poser computer art
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> wrote in message news:480e840a@news.povray.org...
Absolutely great image, (astonishing even). I don't know about Myrna,
but whoever she is, you're showing her in a good light.
~Steve~
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Thanks to all for your kind comments. In fact I
had some doubts, but this happens always to me
after having spend quite a lot of time working
on an image.
About the hands: yes, I see what you mean. The
strange thing is, I just checked them within Poser
and there they look really good - even in closeup
views.
My guess is that this kind of lighting setup (by
using only strong spotlights without any umbrellas
to soften it) does in this case show some unusual
harsh shadows between the fingers and so creates
a strange impression. But I'm definitely unsure
about this.
And the right hand is meant to be not in a
comfortable crossed arm pose, but is maybe about
to make a gesture or does express some tension.
It was an interesting experience to work on this
image. I do use poser models since quite a long
time, but they have always been just a bunch of
triangles. This time the figure was meant to
represent a real person and while working on the
face morph - and I realized that I did get quite
close - I felt I had to be more careful than
usual, I didn't want to harm her in any way.
-Ive
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M_a_r_c wrote:
> I'd feel better if she had more room in front of her than behind.
So you would feel better if she didn't stand so close to you -
can it be you are afraid of self-assured and confident women?
sorry Marc, just couldn't resist ;)
-Ive
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"Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
480fd61a$1@news.povray.org...
> M_a_r_c wrote:
>
>> I'd feel better if she had more room in front of her than behind.
>
> So you would feel better if she didn't stand so close to you -
> can it be you are afraid of self-assured and confident women?
>
> sorry Marc, just couldn't resist ;)
LOL :-)
I meant i'd feel better for her, by empathy.
Marc
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M_a_r_c schrieb:
> "Ive" <ive### [at] lilysoftcom> a �crit dans le message de news:
> 480e840a@news.povray.org...
>
> That's truly fantastic!
>
> The only (small) criticism I have is about composition :
> I'd feel better if she had more room in front of her than behind.
>
> Marc
>
>
No, no. She's walking away from the camera and probably
out of the scene. The composition renders this in a
convincing way.
Very artistic perspective, BTW, looking down upon her and
she looking up, somewhat surprised and shy.
Excellent art, Ive! Thanks for sharing this.
-Hans-
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Superb. I especially like the subtle translucency on her dress, showing the
faint silhouette of her legs... very realistic and natural.
Bring on the technicolor, but I suspect I will prefer this one!
Bill
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Ive nous illumina en ce 2008/04/22 20:34 -->
Great!
For a moment, I was wondering if it was some old restored photo or a rendering.
Lots of work, but well worth it.
--
Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when you've ever "lost" a Julia fractal
because you're not quite sure how to align things in four dimensions.
Dylan Beattie
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That's astonishing!
So I've been hooked on this little video for some time now, you up to
animating Dusty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MczZzJ-jy5c
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Awesome work. I do like the color version, but hey. Would like to see more Poser
stuff in Povray.
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> So I've been hooked on this little video for some time now, you up to
> animating Dusty?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MczZzJ-jy5c
LOL, really cute. I especially like the change in lighting and her
movement during the instrumental part. So simple and yet so
effective - the good ol' times before MTV.
-Ive
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Ive wrote:
>>So I've been hooked on this little video for some time now, you up to
>>animating Dusty?
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MczZzJ-jy5c
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>
>
> LOL, really cute. I especially like the change in lighting and her
> movement during the instrumental part. So simple and yet so
> effective - the good ol' times before MTV.
>
> -Ive
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>
Yes. The precise, stark, 'framing' with the spotlight. So
underappreciated by me at the time.
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