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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 03:45:34
Message: <4719b21e@news.povray.org>
I am busy with artwork on a jazz theme. The idea is to illustrate an 
instrumental "duel" where one musician plays a short pice and the other one 
echoe's the first one and so on.

Jazz-Duel.jpg was the first idea but it has evolved into Jazz-City.jpg so I 
think this will be two artworks in the end. The first one has a more 
abstract atmosphere where the second is of street musicians.

I am thinking of throwing in a couple of dustbins in the background and 
Istill have to ad some flames in the "tonka""on the right.

Comments and help welcome.

-Nekar


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 04:08:32
Message: <4719b780@news.povray.org>
Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of a
sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get very
confusing!

It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the IRTC
music round  =)

-Nekar


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 04:22:31
Message: <4719bac7@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
4719b21e@news.povray.org...
>I am busy with artwork on a jazz theme. The idea is to illustrate an 
>instrumental "duel" where one musician plays a short pice and the other one 
>echoe's the first one and so on.
>
Hey that's great!
Very punchy and dynamic poses
I like both. Jazz-Duel has a "Art-deco" style, I think.
For Jazz-City, you could add a saxophone case (or maybe something smaller) 
with some coins thrown into and around, a torn poster on the wall...

Marc


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 04:25:06
Message: <4719bb62$1@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
4719b780@news.povray.org...
> Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of a
> sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get very
> confusing!
>
> It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the IRTC
> music round  =)
>
> -Nekar
>
Talking of intruments, the machine-heads of the upright bass are missing 
some pieces (pegs and gears) aren't they?

Marc


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 04:27:45
Message: <4719bc01@news.povray.org>
"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
news:4719bac7@news.povray.org...
>
> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 4719b21e@news.povray.org...
>>I am busy with artwork on a jazz theme. The idea is to illustrate an 
>>instrumental "duel" where one musician plays a short pice and the other 
>>one echoe's the first one and so on.
>>
> Hey that's great!
> Very punchy and dynamic poses
> I like both.

Thank you.

> For Jazz-City, you could add a saxophone case (or maybe something smaller) 
> with some coins thrown into and around, a torn poster on the wall...

Thanks. I didn't think about the sax case that's a good idea. I'll have to 
look for a pic.

-Nekar


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 04:48:27
Message: <4719c0db$1@news.povray.org>
"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
news:4719bb62$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news: 
> 4719b780@news.povray.org...
>> Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of a
>> sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get very
>> confusing!
>>
>> It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the IRTC
>> music round  =)
>>
>> -Nekar
>>
> Talking of intruments, the machine-heads of the upright bass are missing 
> some pieces (pegs and gears) aren't they?
>
Yes. Importing full detailled models into Poser made it very slow. I'll have 
to do the instruments and the figures seperately.

I'm not happy with the shoulders on the suit and trenchcoat - I'm not surte 
how to fix that up.

-Nekar


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 06:31:46
Message: <4719d912$1@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4719b780@news.povray.org...
> Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of a
> sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get very
> confusing!

     Yes, that's what happened to me when I modelled it. So, some of it is 
actually just 'made up' as best as I could see.

>
> It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the IRTC
> music round  =)

    "So you wanna mya sexy saxa, eh?"  ;)

     Are you sure? It looks good, but it would never play, and a saxophonist 
would probably trample on it.  ;)

      Yeah, sure, no problem. How do you want it? Are you using Wings? If 
so, it might be better to just pass the .wings file to you as that's only 
3.86Mb's, whereas the actual models themselves (as OBJ files) are around 
8+Mb's, (which still might be slow if you're importing them into Poser).

       Great images though, Nekar.

          ~Steve~




>
> -Nekar
>
>


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 06:54:56
Message: <4719de80@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:4719d912$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:4719b780@news.povray.org...
>> Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of a
>> sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get very
>> confusing!
>
>     Yes, that's what happened to me when I modelled it. So, some of it is 
> actually just 'made up' as best as I could see.

It was pretty convincing!
>>
>> It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the IRTC
>> music round  =)
>
>    "So you wanna mya sexy saxa, eh?"  ;)

Dat wud be verrry nais, yeah! ;)



>     Are you sure?

Please... :)

It looks good, but it would never play, and a saxophonist
> would probably trample on it.  ;)

I can't play sax, so it's fine for me!

>
>      Yeah, sure, no problem. How do you want it? Are you using Wings? If 
> so, it might be better to just pass the .wings file to you as that's only 
> 3.86Mb's, whereas the actual models themselves (as OBJ files) are around 
> 8+Mb's, (which still might be slow if you're importing them into Poser).
>
I don't use wings. I tried it once but I got stuck exporting to Pov. I'll 
have to go for the 8 Mb files and do the Poser stuff seperately.

Maybe I could try both. Could you upload it somewhere for me to download? 
I'm not sure what g-mail's limits are for e-mails.

>       Great images though, Nekar.

Thank you.

-Nekar


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 07:34:53
Message: <4719e7dd$1@news.povray.org>
High!

Nekar Xenos schrieb:
> I am busy with artwork on a jazz theme. The idea is to illustrate an 
> instrumental "duel" where one musician plays a short pice and the other one 
> echoe's the first one and so on.
> 
> Jazz-Duel.jpg was the first idea but it has evolved into Jazz-City.jpg so I 
> think this will be two artworks in the end. The first one has a more 
> abstract atmosphere where the second is of street musicians.

Looks cool... but I doubt whether it would also sound that cool, as I 
just can't spot Jimmy Smith on his Hammond B-3!

See you in Khyberspace - www.khyberspace.de !

Yadgar

Now playing: Waterfront, live 1987 (Simple Minds)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 07:38:26
Message: <4719e8b2$1@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4719de80@news.povray.org...
>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:4719d912$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
>> news:4719b780@news.povray.org...
>>> Oh yes and I was wondering if anyone could let me use a better model of 
>>> a
>>> sax as I don't have enough clear pictures of saxophones - it can get 
>>> very
>>> confusing!
>>
>>     Yes, that's what happened to me when I modelled it. So, some of it is 
>> actually just 'made up' as best as I could see.
>
> It was pretty convincing!

     Thank you. Now you're gonna see how bad my modelling really is!  :)


>>>
>>> It would be nice if Stephen could let me use his "Sexy Sax" from the 
>>> IRTC
>>> music round  =)
>>
>>    "So you wanna mya sexy saxa, eh?"  ;)
>
> Dat wud be verrry nais, yeah! ;)


      Heh...


>
>
>
>>     Are you sure?
>
> Please... :)
>
> It looks good, but it would never play, and a saxophonist
>> would probably trample on it.  ;)
>
> I can't play sax, so it's fine for me!
>
>>
>>      Yeah, sure, no problem. How do you want it? Are you using Wings? If 
>> so, it might be better to just pass the .wings file to you as that's only 
>> 3.86Mb's, whereas the actual models themselves (as OBJ files) are around 
>> 8+Mb's, (which still might be slow if you're importing them into Poser).
>>
> I don't use wings. I tried it once but I got stuck exporting to Pov. I'll 
> have to go for the 8 Mb files and do the Poser stuff seperately.
>
> Maybe I could try both. Could you upload it somewhere for me to download? 
> I'm not sure what g-mail's limits are for e-mails.



    Done. I keep forgetting about zipping something up, (Duh!), so it's only 
2.99Mb's, but I'd forgotten that the main pieces when combined together are 
9+Mb's, not 8. Oh well...

      ~Steve~



>
>>       Great images though, Nekar.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -Nekar
>


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 07:58:44
Message: <4719ed74@news.povray.org>
Thanks. I'll let you know if I have any problems exporting to Pov... :)

-Nekar


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 14:06:57
Message: <471a43c1$1@news.povray.org>
Nekar Xenos nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/10/20 03:45:
> I am busy with artwork on a jazz theme. The idea is to illustrate an 
> instrumental "duel" where one musician plays a short pice and the other one 
> echoe's the first one and so on.
> 
> Jazz-Duel.jpg was the first idea but it has evolved into Jazz-City.jpg so I 
> think this will be two artworks in the end. The first one has a more 
> abstract atmosphere where the second is of street musicians.
> 
> I am thinking of throwing in a couple of dustbins in the background and 
> Istill have to ad some flames in the "tonka""on the right.
> 
> Comments and help welcome.
> 
> -Nekar 
> 
> 
> 
Have you tough of proposing those to some Jazz Fest? You could get a contract 
for some posters.
Very "in tune". You don't need the title, it says "Jazz" all by itself. Love 
both versions.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
What happens if you get scared half to death twice?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 20 Oct 2007 15:43:50
Message: <471a5a76$1@news.povray.org>
Steve maybe you could export the unsmoothed 'cages' as .obj or whatever 
and he could smooth it in PoseRay or his mesh editor of choice.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 21 Oct 2007 03:49:14
Message: <471b047a$1@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:4719c0db$1@news.povray.org...
>
>>
> Yes. Importing full detailled models into Poser made it very slow. I'll 
> have to do the instruments and the figures seperately.
>
> I'm not happy with the shoulders on the suit and trenchcoat - I'm not 
> surte how to fix that up.
>

So, the figures are in Poser? And the clothes are Poser too (conforming I 
suppose)?
I noticed the shoulders too. The only trenchcoat I am aware of comes from 
Poser 5, doesn't it? I have experimented with it some time ago and was not 
happy with the results. It contains serious flaws in modelling design. My 
suggestion would be to export (.obj) the jacket and trenchcoat, like they 
are now modelled on the figures, to Wings for example, smooth carefully the 
offending creases and re-export to Poser. They should fit the figures again 
(after deleting the original clothes). Of course, they would not be 
conforming again so do this only when you have totally finished the set up 
of your figures in Poser.

I forgot to say: very nice scenes! I love the composition and lighting.

Thomas


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 22 Oct 2007 02:02:24
Message: <471c3cf0$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote in message 
news:471b047a$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:4719c0db$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>>>
>> Yes. Importing full detailled models into Poser made it very slow. I'll 
>> have to do the instruments and the figures seperately.
>>
>> I'm not happy with the shoulders on the suit and trenchcoat - I'm not 
>> surte how to fix that up.
>>
>
> So, the figures are in Poser? And the clothes are Poser too (conforming I 
> suppose)?
> I noticed the shoulders too. The only trenchcoat I am aware of comes from 
> Poser 5, doesn't it? I have experimented with it some time ago and was not 
> happy with the results. It contains serious flaws in modelling design. My 
> suggestion would be to export (.obj) the jacket and trenchcoat, like they 
> are now modelled on the figures, to Wings for example, smooth carefully 
> the offending creases and re-export to Poser. They should fit the figures 
> again (after deleting the original clothes). Of course, they would not be 
> conforming again so do this only when you have totally finished the set up 
> of your figures in Poser.
>
> I forgot to say: very nice scenes! I love the composition and lighting.
>
> Thomas
Thankx for the tips. I will try that.

-Nekar


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 26 Oct 2007 17:29:58
Message: <Xns99D5E5051FF25stevezeroppsuklinuxn@203.29.75.35>
Hi Nekar, 

Love the feel of this.  It would be good to see a metronome standing next 
to the wall, the mechanical type, ticking away there, these guys probably 
wouldn't be playing anything you could keep in time to a metronome with 
they look too hip to be that conventional.  

Keep us posted. 

Cheers
Steve


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 29 Oct 2007 00:50:21
Message: <4725749d@news.povray.org>
"Steve" <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message 
news:Xns99D5E5051FF25stevezeroppsuklinuxn@203.29.75.35...
> Hi Nekar,
>
> Love the feel of this.  It would be good to see a metronome standing next
> to the wall, the mechanical type, ticking away there, these guys probably
> wouldn't be playing anything you could keep in time to a metronome with
> they look too hip to be that conventional.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here but yes I think funk wouldn't feel 
right with a metronome.
> Keep us posted.
My wife was in hospital this week so the kids were a handful ...
I've added more detail to the double-bass and I still need to fix the 
shoulders and Place the instruments seperately which can be quite difficult 
and time-consuming.

Thanx

-Nekar


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From: danbo
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 1 Nov 2007 16:40:00
Message: <web.472a46a21733534fcf56688d0@news.povray.org>
Good picture.

And to give a little suspens, you could also draw different shadows of the
musicians, having movements not linked to the 2 men.
something wrong, just not to be really in accord with the strict painting, what
jazz is for the music.


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 2 Nov 2007 02:00:14
Message: <472acafe$1@news.povray.org>
"danbo" <dbt### [at] freefr> wrote in message 
news:web.472a46a21733534fcf56688d0@news.povray.org...
> Good picture.
>
> And to give a little suspens, you could also draw different shadows of the
> musicians, having movements not linked to the 2 men.
> something wrong, just not to be really in accord with the strict painting, 
> what
> jazz is for the music.
>

Yes I have been thinking along those lines. I want to put in dustbins that 
throw a shodow that looks like a drummer playing drums.

-Nekar


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Jazz
Date: 16 Jan 2009 10:13:42
Message: <4970a426@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4719ed74@news.povray.org...
> Thanks. I'll let you know if I have any problems exporting to Pov... :)
>
> -Nekar


  Hi Nekar

   Did you ever do anything with my saxophone model?

     Would love to see what you did.

      ~Steve~


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