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From: Warp
Subject: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 08:36:06
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Inspired by this:

http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab

I made this:


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 09:53:01
Message: <4645c6bd$1@news.povray.org>
>   Inspired by this:
> 
> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab

LOL! Neat...

> I made this:

The wood grain looks painted on. But it looks like *real paint* on a 
*real table*. Perhaps one of those plastic vineers they like to put on 
chipboard to make it look like wood. And the screws look awsome...

Tell me, how many years did it take for this to render?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 14:22:49
Message: <464605f9$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> The wood grain looks painted on. But it looks like *real paint* on a 
> *real table*. Perhaps one of those plastic vineers they like to put on 
> chipboard to make it look like wood. And the screws look awsome...
> 
Yes and no.  In the highlight, where the specular actually shows up the 
grain, the surface is clearly tactile, but the flattening in the 
pneumbra areas is quite pronounced.  One of those circumstances where 
realistic effects don't necessarily look as we expect I guess.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 15:22:31
Message: <464613f7@news.povray.org>
Nice, Warp! My only critisism would be that the slots have very little 
depth to take a flat-blade, maybe a touch more depth would do it.

     ~Steve~


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 21:09:27
Message: <46466547@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Tell me, how many years did it take for this to render?

  1.5 hours.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 22:19:08
Message: <4646759c@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:4645b4b0@news.povray.org...
>  Inspired by this:
>
> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab
>
> I made this:

Very nice, Warp. The modeling is excellent and I like the effective use of DOF focal
blur on this.

How have you been?

Ken Tyler


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 12 May 2007 22:55:01
Message: <web.46467c47c076759af22209410@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Inspired by this:
>
> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab
>
> I made this:

Somehow, I liked the wooden texture in your amazing "4 tips to improve a
povray scene" a bit better.  There:
http://warp.povusers.org/povtips/

I liked the black_hole warps, but it looks like they weren't accompanied by
the appropriate normal or the lighting doesn't show it.

The hightlights in the screws make them look like made of plastic.  Perhaps
they should be smaller or be slightly perturbed by micronormals?

are the screws isosurfaces or CSG?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 13 May 2007 04:41:38
Message: <4646cf42@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> are the screws isosurfaces or CSG?

  I wouldn't even know how to make such shapes as isosurfaces.

  The spiral is a mesh created with sdl.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 13 May 2007 11:40:50
Message: <46473182$1@news.povray.org>
St. nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 12 / 05 / 2007 15:22:
>   Nice, Warp! My only critisism would be that the slots have very little 
> depth to take a flat-blade, maybe a touch more depth would do it.
> 
>      ~Steve~
> 
>  
> 
> 
The slot's depth is typical for that king of screw, I ocasionaly find myself 
using a metal saw on those slots. I prefer robertson screw heads: no sliding 
(like slot heads) and no poping off (like phillips heads).

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
An optimist is someone who thinks the future is uncertain.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 13 May 2007 15:45:09
Message: <46476ac5$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:22:25 +0100, St. wrote:

> My only critisism would be that the slots have very little depth to take
> a flat-blade

Having spent the last day unscrewing screws similar to this on electrical 
fixtures in my home, I can say the depth is pretty consistent with what I 
was dealing with - I think it looks fine. :-)

Jim


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 14 May 2007 12:58:28
Message: <46489534$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
>
> The slot's depth is typical for that king of screw, I ocasionaly find
> myself using a metal saw on those slots. I prefer robertson screw heads:
> no sliding (like slot heads) and no poping off (like phillips heads).
> 

Torx is also one great beast of grip.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/screw_heads.gif

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 14 May 2007 22:37:25
Message: <46491ce5$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 14 / 05 / 2007 12:58:
> Alain wrote:
>> The slot's depth is typical for that king of screw, I ocasionaly find
>> myself using a metal saw on those slots. I prefer robertson screw heads:
>> no sliding (like slot heads) and no poping off (like phillips heads).
>>
> 
> Torx is also one great beast of grip.
> 
> http://www.daviddarling.info/images/screw_heads.gif
> 
I agree with you on that point, you can put more tork with torx screws. But 
robertson is beter for "ordinary" every-days use, while torx is more oriented 
toward technical uses. At least, here in Canada.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
I find the affluence of incahol to be totally, whatever he said


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 00:38:29
Message: <46493945$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:

> I agree with you on that point, you can put more tork with torx screws.
> But robertson is beter for "ordinary" every-days use, while torx is more
> oriented toward technical uses. At least, here in Canada.
> 

I can imagine Robertson as practical, but unfortunately it's damn rare
here, so I can't know for sure. Robertson is easier to make than torx
and for Robertson you can make a perfect key by yourself (well, you
_can_ for torx too, but it's not so trivial).

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 03:49:56
Message: <46496624$1@news.povray.org>
"Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> schreef in bericht 
news:46493945$1@news.povray.org...
>
> I can imagine Robertson as practical, but unfortunately it's damn rare
> here, so I can't know for sure. Robertson is easier to make than torx
> and for Robertson you can make a perfect key by yourself (well, you
> _can_ for torx too, but it's not so trivial).
>

Never saw it in my place, to tell the truth. First time I even heard about 
it! So, it may be inexistant here...

Thomas


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From: Marc
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 03:57:30
Message: <464967ea@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> a écrit dans le message de 
news: 46496624$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Never saw it in my place, to tell the truth. First time I even heard about 
> it! So, it may be inexistant here...
>
> Thomas
>
Here the most common for wood screws is 'posidriv' , an enhancement of 
phillips, secure if you use the good size key

Marc


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 07:50:01
Message: <web.46499e1fc076759ab3e3af320@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Nice, Warp! My only critisism would be that the slots have very little
> depth to take a flat-blade, maybe a touch more depth would do it.
>

I agree with you Steve. The slot is too fine and shallow for the UK. I don’t
know if you’ve used the square drive ones. I think they’re good but I prefer
Alan screws for metal (nothing wrong with a bent bit of metal :-).


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 10:37:56
Message: <4649c5c4$1@news.povray.org>
Marc wrote:
>
> Here the most common for wood screws is 'posidriv' , an enhancement of 
> phillips, secure if you use the good size key

Yes, but only to certain limit. Pozidriv won't be delivering even near
the torque torx does easily. The reason is also simple, while torx's
head is flat when looked from the side:

Pozidriv:
|  |
|  |
\  /
 \/

Torx:
|  |
|  |
|  |
----

My ASCII is hidious, but if someone doesn't understand, I'll continue
with a photo :).

> Marc 

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Marc
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 16:23:27
Message: <464a16bf$1@news.povray.org>
"Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> a écrit dans le message de 
news: 4649c5c4$1@news.povray.org...
> Marc wrote:
>>
>> Here the most common for wood screws is 'posidriv' , an enhancement of
>> phillips, secure if you use the good size key
>
> Yes, but only to certain limit. Pozidriv won't be delivering even near
> the torque torx does easily. The reason is also simple, while torx's
> head is flat when looked from the side:
>
I agree but you don't want to give too much torque to a wood screw :-)

Marc


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 15 May 2007 17:17:14
Message: <464a235a@news.povray.org>
Marc wrote:
>
> I agree but you don't want to give too much torque to a wood screw :-)

Depends. I've had problems with pz's when the wood is really tight. But
generally, yes, usually the situation is as you said ;).

> Marc 
> 
> 


-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 17 May 2007 10:20:01
Message: <web.464c641bc076759ac150d4c10@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Eero Ahonen" <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> schreef in bericht
> news:46493945$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> > I can imagine Robertson as practical, but unfortunately it's damn rare
> > here, so I can't know for sure. Robertson is easier to make than torx
> > and for Robertson you can make a perfect key by yourself (well, you
> > _can_ for torx too, but it's not so trivial).
> >
>
> Never saw it in my place, to tell the truth. First time I even heard about
> it! So, it may be inexistant here...
>
> Thomas

Yes, a Canadian invention and arguably one of the best screwdriver types
that never got the international (or at least American) exposure it perhaps
deserves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver
It is one of the most common used here in Canada for everything from wood
screws to metal screws.

However they can strip hideously if you use the wrong size head or don't
seat it well as I found out quite often while building my deck...

-tgq


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Wood screws
Date: 13 Oct 2007 14:34:39
Message: <47110fbf$1@news.povray.org>
"Ken" <ken### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:4646759c@news.povray.org...
>
> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
> news:4645b4b0@news.povray.org...
>>  Inspired by this:
>>
>> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab
>>
>> I made this:
>
> Very nice, Warp. The modeling is excellent and I like the effective use of 
> DOF focal blur on this.
>
> How have you been?
>
> Ken Tyler


   Wow, didn't notice this post from Unka Ken here! Damn Ken, don't worry 
about Warp, he's just as mean as he's ever been... (no offence Warp!) ;)

     Ken, someone was asking after you recently here on the groups, how are 
you? Ok?

       ~Steve~


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