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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 5 May 2007 05:02:23
Message: <80io331iqoqr1do2qffuuldce19js0pckg@4ax.com>

wrote:

>High!
>
>Stephen wrote:
>> Also I don't think men look good in tights :-) At
>> least not action men.
>
>...then you probably never saw Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson in action! ;-)
>

We have heard the chimes at midnight, Master Shallow.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 5 May 2007 09:51:59
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"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> schreef in bericht 
news:80io331iqoqr1do2qffuuldce19js0pckg@4ax.com...
>>
>
> We have heard the chimes at midnight, Master Shallow.

Yes, indeed, so we did, Master Falstaff...  :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 5 May 2007 13:08:15
Message: <0fep33digafsscd3268qf0ve6qu1fhghgb@4ax.com>
On Sat, 5 May 2007 15:51:59 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:

>
>"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> schreef in bericht 
>news:80io331iqoqr1do2qffuuldce19js0pckg@4ax.com...
>>>
>>
>> We have heard the chimes at midnight, Master Shallow.
>
>Yes, indeed, so we did, Master Falstaff...  :-)

Nice one!

That reminds me I must give Tom Melly back his DVD before I start working in the
lowlands.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 5 May 2007 17:09:27
Message: <463cf287@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> What if you made the figure a lost child?

Wouldn't fit with the feel of the scene I had in mind. The fact that the
feel hasn't come across properly is another issue.

> I know that you do some sci-fi writing too that has the same feel.  It
> is like there is some aspect of scifi/fantasy action scenes that you are
> drawn to and want to recreate.

Most of the pictures I do have a story behind them, even if it's just a few
lines. I tend to find that picture and story come together.

They're not always action scenes, but I find those the eaiest to recreate.

> This scene, and scenes like it, have a voyeuristic component to them.
<snip>

Hmmm, interesting analysis. Not something that I thought of.

> I think your action/combat reflex is confusing here.  That the scene is
> suddenly presented to the viewer just as it is revealed to the
> explorations of the little combat figure IS a typical scifi devise.
> But I wonder if you could push it further.  There is something
> unsatisfying to me that it all ends with this unresponsive little turd
> with a gun.

I'm not fully satisfied with it either. I'll put it aside for a day or two,
see what comes to mind.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 5 May 2007 21:55:01
Message: <web.463d35625da3eebd85de7b680@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
>  Also I don't think men look good in tights :-) At
> least not action men.

Yeah, why don't you say that to Superman to his face! :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 6 May 2007 03:38:58
Message: <mf1r33hkfpth62e8qg68bc4evkp7gqf0to@4ax.com>
On Sat,  5 May 2007 21:54:42 EDT, "Cousin Ricky" <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

>Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
>>  Also I don't think men look good in tights :-) At
>> least not action men.
>
>Yeah, why don't you say that to Superman to his face! :-)
>
>
I will, after I get round to telling St Peter what I think of the set up down
here :-)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 6 May 2007 18:49:19
Message: <463e5b6f$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
> news:463ba39f@news.povray.org...
> 
>>What if you made the figure a lost child?
> 
> 
> Wouldn't fit with the feel of the scene I had in mind. 

Exactly, I'm trying to shake you up.


> 
> 
>>I know that you do some sci-fi writing too that has the same feel.  It
>>is like there is some aspect of scifi/fantasy action scenes that you are
>>drawn to and want to recreate.
> 
> 
> Most of the pictures I do have a story behind them, even if it's just a few
> lines. I tend to find that picture and story come together.

Yes I remember a very early idea for a piece that involved a remarkable 
shift in point of view utilizing a reflection somehow.  At your best 
your narrative inventions are very exciting.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 8 May 2007 11:05:44
Message: <464091c8@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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> Sorry, in my haste I attached the wrong vrsion of the image.

 Aha! Now if you'd done that in the TC-RTC Gail, you would be able to go 
into your account and make the wrong image 'dead', and then re-upload the 
right image and make it 'live'!   :o)

  Nice image, btw. Are the bubbles randomly placed by hand? I think the 
bubbles work well. I think I too would have the guy standing guard, but I 
would also put some kind of machinery in front of him just to break that 
bottom right-hand corner up a bit.

    ~Steve~


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 8 May 2007 12:44:25
Message: <4640a8e9@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:464091c8@news.povray.org...
>
>   Nice image, btw.

Thanks

> Are the bubbles randomly placed by hand?

No. It's a loop with a random seed for each column, which are then placed
semi-random in a circle.
I can post the macro if you want.

> I think the
> bubbles work well. I think I too would have the guy standing guard, but I
> would also put some kind of machinery in front of him just to break that
> bottom right-hand corner up a bit.

The idea of a guard sounds good, I just have to figure out how to make it
apparent that the people in the tanks aren't there volunterily.

My poser library is, unfortunatly, not that well stocked.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Oops, correct image here
Date: 8 May 2007 13:04:10
Message: <4640ad8a@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:464091c8@news.povray.org...

> into your account and make the wrong image 'dead', and then re-upload the 
> right image and make it 'live'!   :o)

   Oops! Sorry, I meant 'suspend' instead of 'dead', and then 'make live'.

     ~Steve~


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