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From: St 
Subject: Update: Ouroborous Snake and Escher Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 17:51:13
Message: <453be7d1@news.povray.org>
Ok, I think I've nailed this bump_mapping thingy.   ;)

   It was the only route I could take after trying loads of stuff with the 
actual mesh.

      Comments welcome!

        ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:21:25
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:45392989@news.povray.org...

>> > Ever read any Wheel of Time books?
>>
>>    I'm afraid I haven't. Who's the author?
>
> Robert Jordan. Beware, the series is at 11 books so far and still going.
> First book is called The Eye of the World. The first 5 were good, the 
> series
> stared going downhill after that (my opinion)

   Ah, thanks, and thanks for the warning Gail! I might try the first one 
and see how it goes... one day, when I've got time.  ;)


>
> One of the power groups in the series wears rings of a snake biting its 
> own
> tail. It's a single loop though.

      Yes, from what I understand, the single loop is the norm, but then 
again, I'm a designer that employs (and enjoys!) artistic licence...  ;)

      ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:21:26
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"Smws" <smw### [at] poboxcom> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Another ring design.
>>
>>     ~Steve~
>
> Wow! Very good model, especially the head. In fact it reminds me of some 
> of
> the better contenders from the recent ring speed modelling challenge over
> at the threedy forums:
> http://www.threedy.com/site/forum/showthread.php?t=46611

    That's great! Thanks for that. I looked at every ring there. Some were 
inspirational. Some weren't. But, that's what I like about CG art, even 
beginners turn out better artists than they would have been but for 
computers.


>
> Good work!

     Thank you!

    ~Steve~


>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:37:34
Message: <453bf2ae$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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> Astonishing Steve.
>
> So I had to look up "Ourobus":
>
> snake that continually eats itself, symbol of infinity

 Which I don't get because how does it reproduce itself if it's eating 
itself?   ;)


>
> That is both a great design and a spectacular piece of modelling.  I love 
> the scales detailing, not easy.
>
> I'd say you've got the macro photo / hdri down to where it's routine for 
> you.

    Thanks Jim, I really appreciate your thoughts.


>
> I just spent several hours this afternoon, in the Metropolitan museum 
> here, examining such artifacts, so I was particularily set up to 
> appreciate this piece.

     Ah! Museums! The last time I went to a museum was in... 1977. Sad, but 
true. It doesn't matter though, what I saw at the Natural History and 
Science museums in London on that day will stay with me always.

      ~Steve~


>
> -Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:37:35
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"mine" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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> WooooW! They are great, very well done.

    Thank you. I've really enjoyed making these images. (Learnt some stuff 
too!)   :)

    ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:37:35
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
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> What can I say? This is really splendid, and splendid modelling too. It 
> brings harshly home that I have still a long way to go in Wings and/or 
> Silo!

    Thank you Thomas! Kind words indeed from someone that's waaaay ahead of 
me!


> Your technique for the scales is an ingenious one.

   It's the same technique as I used in my IRTC entry for the Mythology 
round:  http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2004-02-29/dusk.jpg

  LOL! When I look at that image, I see that I was on the right track, but 
lacking somehow.  ;)

   ~Steve~



>
> Thomas
>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:37:36
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
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>
> I know, this is very secondary, but I think that the correct name is 
> Ouroborus, instead of Ourobus (which last reminds me more of some kind 
> of... bus... going round??? :-)  )
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

   LOL! And I still got the spelling wrong!  :o)

    ~Steve~


>
> Thomas
>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 18:37:36
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"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Another ring design.
>>
>>     ~Steve~
>
> Great modelling, the snake head is excellent and the design of the ring is
> really cool..

   Thank you!

 Hope you have still found time to do an IRTC entry this
> round.

   Sean, you've just convinced me to enter again. I did start something 
nearly a month ago now. It's a simple scene, but hopefully it conveys the 
subject.

    ~Steve~


>
> Sean
>


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From: Smws
Subject: Re: Update: Ouroborous Snake and Escher Snake
Date: 22 Oct 2006 22:30:01
Message: <web.453c289b6c10637dda53d9e40@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Ok, I think I've nailed this bump_mapping thingy.   ;)
>
>    It was the only route I could take after trying loads of stuff with the
> actual mesh.
>
>       Comments welcome!
>
>         ~Steve~

Wow! This looks really good! However you got the normal, it looks very much
like scales. Did you make the bump_map yourself?

Great image.

-Stefan


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 23 Oct 2006 01:39:11
Message: <r2loj259svm23b6vg5lm6q47gq79io37bk@4ax.com>
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:21:50 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>     Ah! Museums! The last time I went to a museum was in... 1977. Sad, but 
>true. It doesn't matter though, what I saw at the Natural History and 
>Science museums in London on that day will stay with me always.

The last time I went to the Science Museum they had a Honeywell 416 computer on
display. That made me feel old as it was the first computer that I worked on
when I left Uni. :-( 

Regards
	Stephen


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