I started this image more than a year ago but got
the photography bug and abandoned it. Recently
the photography paid off and I figured out how
to make my own light probes.

So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
my very own probe.

I'm not one to brag :-) but I think it turned out
quite well, firstly the composition (golden
rectangle subdivision), secondly I'm rather proud
of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
of course.

I'll post the textures to p.b.s-f if anyone asks.

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Bill Hails
http://billhails.net/

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Bill Hails wrote:

> I started this image more than a year ago but got
> the photography bug and abandoned it. Recently
> the photography paid off and I figured out how
> to make my own light probes.
> 
> So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
> my very own probe.
> 
> I'm not one to brag :-) but I think it turned out
> quite well, firstly the composition (golden
> rectangle subdivision), secondly I'm rather proud
> of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
> of course.
> 
> I'll post the textures to p.b.s-f if anyone asks.
> 

Stunning

I like the whole image, every detail in it, specially the stain in the
background. it makes it so much more real.

One tiny iffy, I think the shadows could be a bit darker.
-- 
Ger

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Bill Hails <me### [at] billhailsnet> wrote:
> I started this image more than a year ago but got
> the photography bug and abandoned it. Recently
> the photography paid off and I figured out how
> to make my own light probes.
>
> So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
> my very own probe.
>
> I'm not one to brag :-) but I think it turned out
> quite well, firstly the composition (golden
> rectangle subdivision), secondly I'm rather proud
> of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
> of course.
>
> I'll post the textures to p.b.s-f if anyone asks.
>
> --
> Bill Hails
> http://billhails.net/

Nice image, espescially the table top texture (isosurface or just normals?).
 Is this lit using rad only?

If you have the whole scene available (including the HDRI, unless its the
one previously posted) I'd like to see how it turns out with the light
macro I've been working on for comparison.  I've been meaning to try a
scene comparison, but haven't had the time for setting up and running high
quality rad renders.

-tgq

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Very nice work!

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Orchid XP v2 wrote:

> Very nice work!

Thanks!

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Trevor G Quayle wrote:

> Nice image, espescially the table top texture (isosurface or just
> normals?).

just normals, with normal on in the radiosity block, (actually
using Rad_Settings(Radiosity_IndoorHQ, true, false) from rad_def.inc)

>  Is this lit using rad only?

yep.

> 
> If you have the whole scene available (including the HDRI, unless its the
> one previously posted) I'd like to see how it turns out with the light
> macro I've been working on for comparison.  I've been meaning to try a
> scene comparison, but haven't had the time for setting up and running high
> quality rad renders.
> 
> -tgq

The whole scene...hmm, I'd have to resolve some dependancies on some of my
personal "standard includes" before I could post it. I'm not adverse to
the idea though, so I'll give it a go. I'll put the textures up now
in any case.

And yes, it's the same probe I posted.

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Ger wrote:

> Bill Hails wrote:
> 
>> I started this image more than a year ago but got
>> the photography bug and abandoned it. Recently
>> the photography paid off and I figured out how
>> to make my own light probes.
>> 
>> So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
>> my very own probe.
>> 
>> I'm not one to brag :-) but I think it turned out
>> quite well, firstly the composition (golden
>> rectangle subdivision), secondly I'm rather proud
>> of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
>> of course.
>> 
>> I'll post the textures to p.b.s-f if anyone asks.
>> 
> 
> Stunning
> 
> I like the whole image, every detail in it, specially the stain in the
> background. it makes it so much more real.

Thanks, the stain also sits on the fourth square of a "golden spiral":
Pot. full cup, empty cup, stain, in case you hadn't noticed :-)

> One tiny iffy, I think the shadows could be a bit darker.

Maybe, though in a white light it's white porcelain on a white wood,
but then my monitor's gamma is low, so maybe it looks a bit darker
to me.

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Bill Hails
http://billhails.net/

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awesome, man!  nice picture!  all textures top-notch silk-smooth! :)

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nemesis wrote:

> awesome, man!  nice picture!  all textures top-notch silk-smooth! :)

Thanks!
I've posted the textures on p.b.s-f if you want to play with them.
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http://billhails.net/

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Bill Hails <me### [at] billhailsnet> wrote:
> I'm not one to brag :-)

You should brag, Bill, this one's so gorgeous I can almost smell it. And I'm
a coffee drinker. :)

> but I think it turned out
> quite well, firstly the composition (golden
> rectangle subdivision),

That golden rectangle idea is intriguing. Somebody here uses the golden
ratio for pseudorandom placement of plants, etc.

> secondly I'm rather proud of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
> of course.

The table surface looks very realistic to me. I'm scared of using radiosity
with normals on; on this 560MHz machine.

[FWIW, to add some quick pastry or bread to your tea party, look at a
slightly modified version of my sandstone surface & texture, without the
colour overlay].

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A delightful composition of soft well-selected colors, color-harmony, soft 
lighting and descent details in the surface textures! This image was done by 
an artist.

Sven

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"Bill Hails" <me### [at] billhailsnet> a écrit dans le message de
news:4455fc5d@news.povray.org...

Veryyyy nice picture
May we have some toasts and marmelade?

Marc

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Marc Jacquier wrote:

> Veryyyy nice picture
> May we have some toasts and marmelade?

Thanks!
Of course that's the trick of minimalist pictures,
I don't have messy details like breadcrumbs to
worry about :-)

> Marc

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Sven Littkowski wrote:

> A delightful composition of soft well-selected colors, color-harmony, soft
> lighting and descent details in the surface textures! This image was done
> by an artist.
> 
> Sven

Thanks!
but let's not get carried away with the artist thing, I have earlier
versions of this that would make your toes curl :-)

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PM 2Ring wrote:
> You should brag, Bill, this one's so gorgeous I can almost smell it. And 
I'm
> a coffee drinker. :)

thanks!

> [...]
> 
> That golden rectangle idea is intriguing. Somebody here uses the golden
> ratio for pseudorandom placement of plants, etc.
> 

My use of it is much simpler, as a compositional aid. Perhaps I should
explain it a bit more (or perhaps not, but I'm going to anyway :-)

A golden rectangle has the unique property that if you cut a square
off of it, then the remaining shape is also a golden rectangle, and you
can repeat the cutting. So in my pic each object is centred on one
of those squares: The pot first, then the full cup, then the empty cup,
then the tea stain.

I don't see any point in obfuscating the idea, since it was deliberate,
and the result does have a sort of balance to it.

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I hear you. Well, prove it. Show it. I would like to see these images as 
well.   :-)

Greetings,

Sven



"Bill Hails" <me### [at] billhailsnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>
>> A delightful composition of soft well-selected colors, color-harmony, 
>> soft
>> lighting and descent details in the surface textures! This image was done
>> by an artist.
>>
>> Sven
>
> Thanks!
> but let's not get carried away with the artist thing, I have earlier
> versions of this that would make your toes curl :-)
>
> -- 
> Bill Hails
> http://billhails.net/

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Very very nice me likes .
"Bill Hails" <me### [at] billhailsnet> wrote in message 
news:4455fc5d@news.povray.org...
>I started this image more than a year ago but got
> the photography bug and abandoned it. Recently
> the photography paid off and I figured out how
> to make my own light probes.
>
> So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
> my very own probe.
>
> I'm not one to brag :-) but I think it turned out
> quite well, firstly the composition (golden
> rectangle subdivision), secondly I'm rather proud
> of that tabletop texture, and thirdly the lighting
> of course.
>
> I'll post the textures to p.b.s-f if anyone asks.
>
> -- 
> Bill Hails
> http://billhails.net/

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> So I dug this out, finished it, and lit it with
> my very own probe.

Can only join in. Very nice!

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Bill Hails <me### [at] billhailsnet> wrote:
> PM 2Ring wrote:

> > That golden rectangle idea is intriguing. Somebody here uses the golden
> > ratio for pseudorandom placement of plants, etc.
> >
>
> My use of it is much simpler, as a compositional aid. Perhaps I should
> explain it a bit more (or perhaps not, but I'm going to anyway :-)

I'd expect that most people like we POVers who enjoy making pictures
mathematically, know a bit about Fibonacci numbers and the golden ratio,
but you never know.

> A golden rectangle has the unique property that if you cut a square
> off of it, then the remaining shape is also a golden rectangle, and you
> can repeat the cutting. So in my pic each object is centred on one
> of those squares: The pot first, then the full cup, then the empty cup,
> then the tea stain.

Yes, I saw it as soon as you mentioned golden rectangles. I've done lots of
graphics involving Fibonacci numbers and spirals. I even wrote a routine to
wrap text in a proportional font onto an exponential spiral (in PostScript;
what an experience :). So I've spent plenty of time looking at such spiral
arrangements... Also, partial Fibonacci spirals arise in Penrose tilings,
which I've spent a bit of time playing with in several languages, including
POV, of course.

> I don't see any point in obfuscating the idea, since it was deliberate,
> and the result does have a sort of balance to it.

I like the the aesthetics of the golden section, but I don't think that it
is necessarily all that more beautiful than other ratios.

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PM 2Ring wrote:

> Bill Hails <me### [at] billhailsnet> wrote:
>> PM 2Ring wrote:
> 
> [...]
> I'd expect that most people like we POVers who enjoy making pictures
> mathematically, know a bit about Fibonacci numbers and the golden ratio,
> but you never know.

sheepish grin :-)

> [...]
> I like the the aesthetics of the golden section, but I don't think that it
> is necessarily all that more beautiful than other ratios.

Funny you mentioned that, I've always been fascinated by that property
of the ISO A-series (whatever it's number) paper sizes. The ratio 1/sqrt(2)
means that if you cut A4 in half you get A5... but I guess most Pov-ers know
that one too :-)

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Bill Hails
http://billhails.net/

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