Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier 
SENECA.

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Here: Bird's view of the center of the imperial carrier SENECA showing 
the panoramic quarters.

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Here: Rear view of the middle front section of the imperial carrier 
SENECA containing the panoramic quarters and a large sensor bay. There 
are still many details to come, such as small surface structures, 
antennas and others.

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Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA. The command tower in 
the middle has been completed, but there are still many details for me 
to develop for the two side bays and parts of the ship center.

Background:

The SENECA is a giant ship and capable of carrying thousands of crafts 
of all sizes. Inside its two side bays the SENECA can carry a view large 
cruisers (as a mobile space station) and dozens or hundreds of the 
smaller ship classes. Human crew is not neccessary as these imperial 
space carriers are fully automatized. In resource-rich environments such 
as asteroid fields or planets, it can even automatical harvest resources 
required, automatically assemble probes and smaller vessels, and launch 
them on a permanent base. This way, it can also repair itself.
The SENECA does not use any chemical propulsion system which is the 
reason you won't see any open parts. The SENECA uses an internal 
gravitron drive. The SENECA "was" built shortly before the jumping drive 
came in use and made such huge long-range ships obsolete.

Scene File:

Already now, the file is designed to be used for animations, and I did 
already a brief animation of ten seconds. The disadvantage is that each 
frame takes its time due the many divisions I have to do, since I do all 
coding "by hand", without any 3D editor. No polygon shapes used, just 
divided standard shapes.

I also did a starbase which was partially hand-coded and partially 
automatically generated through a self-written computer program. I might 
use that program for some parts of the two side bays of the SENECA, as 
well. But not sure yet.

Further intentions: creating jumper ships and many smaller vessels.

Sven Littkowski

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Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier 
> SENECA.

These two attached images are simply cropped details from your preview 3 
and 4 images.

Just curious -- was the "happy face" intentional?

And when I enlarge the second image I can see it's just a hatch of some 
sort and shadows.  But with a normal, unexpanded view it looks (to me) 
like a figure of a man holding a weapon.

This is NOT a criticism of your very impressive images and I'm not 
suggesting changes.  But I was somewhat amused at these two details.

      -=- Larry -=-

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Hello Larry,

never mind - I welcome criticism but I also understand easily that you just 
mention it because of the funny nature of your observation.

Yes, you are right, these details look truly the way you have mentioned. But 
that's entirely unintentionally, and also just based on the perspective.
The "smiley" is just a superstructure meant for conferences or meetings. 
What you see are the roof windows of that structure.

And the "warrior" is caused by sensor arrays and antennas inside a large 
bay.

It is nice that someone looks to my images, and I am happy to receive a 
first feedback. I want to invite you all to give me more of your feedbacks!

Greetings,

Sven Littkowski




"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4452e077@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
>> SENECA.
>
> These two attached images are simply cropped details from your preview 3
> and 4 images.
>
> Just curious -- was the "happy face" intentional?
>
> And when I enlarge the second image I can see it's just a hatch of some
> sort and shadows.  But with a normal, unexpanded view it looks (to me)
> like a figure of a man holding a weapon.
>
> This is NOT a criticism of your very impressive images and I'm not
> suggesting changes.  But I was somewhat amused at these two details.
>
>      -=- Larry -=-
>

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Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA. I have started now the 
detail works on the side bays.

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I'm sorry i can't see it. i just get htm files with strange image links like
src="cid:052201c66b12$5c5167a0$16b2a8c0@SVEN" but i don't see anything.
Is this a problem on my side?
I'm curious to see the images!

Regards Roman

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"Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> a écrit dans le message de
news:445295e2@news.povray.org...
>Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
SENECA.


That's impressively Imperial indeed :-)

The little reserve I can have is that you should vary slightly the color en
intensity of the bay lights.
Regarding those bays, I thonk anti-aliasing has problems with hi rgb value
pixels, which version of povray are you using?

Marc

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Hi Roman,

hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image file? 
Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics 
here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as 
Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?

Later,

Sven

"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.4453a23cdda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org...
> I'm sorry i can't see it. i just get htm files with strange image links 
> like
> src="cid:052201c66b12$5c5167a0$16b2a8c0@SVEN" but i don't see anything.
> Is this a problem on my side?
> I'm curious to see the images!
>
> Regards Roman
>

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Hi Marc,

the very first of these previews was done with the full version of POV-Ray: 
v 3.6, but all other previews (02 - 07) were done with the bbeta version of 
the new POV-Ray, version 3.7.0 Beta 12a.

There are none of these "spot lights" remaining when using the beta version. 
On the other hand, they say that radiosity and other features are not yet 
fully completed which might be the only reason why the spot lights have 
disappeared.

Greetings,

Sven




"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4453a503$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> a écrit dans le message de
> news:445295e2@news.povray.org...
>>Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
> SENECA.
>
>
> That's impressively Imperial indeed :-)
>
> The little reserve I can have is that you should vary slightly the color 
> en
> intensity of the bay lights.
> Regarding those bays, I thonk anti-aliasing has problems with hi rgb value
> pixels, which version of povray are you using?
>
> Marc
>
>

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Hi Sven

I'm viewing this newsgroup with a web browser (i tried FireFox and IE6). i
see all the images on this page. The one of Larry above as well. Usually i
see:

  Attachments:
  Download '<filename>.jpg' (<size> KB)

  Preview of image '<filename>.jpg'
  [image]

In your case i just see:

  Attachments:
  Download 'iso-8859-1' (1 KB)

(one has 4KB but that's it)

When i download this files they contain html code for example:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ede2cd background="">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Here: Rear view of the
middle front
section of the imperial carrier SENECA containing the panoramic quarters
and a
large sensor bay. There are still many details to come, such as small
surface
structures, antennas and others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0
src="cid:054a01c66b18$9c083ad0$16b2a8c0@SVEN"
align=baseline border=0></DIV></BODY></HTML>

The src links in the image tags (if they are links at all) don't work.

Has anyone ever experienced similar problems? I have no idea what goes wrong
here.

Regards Roman




"Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image file?
> Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics
> here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as
> Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?
>
> Later,
>
> Sven

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Hello Roman,

That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.

Sven



"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.4453ee0adda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org...
> Hi Sven
>
> I'm viewing this newsgroup with a web browser (i tried FireFox and IE6). i
> see all the images on this page. The one of Larry above as well. Usually i
> see:
>
>  Attachments:
>  Download '<filename>.jpg' (<size> KB)
>
>  Preview of image '<filename>.jpg'
>  [image]
>
> In your case i just see:
>
>  Attachments:
>  Download 'iso-8859-1' (1 KB)
>
> (one has 4KB but that's it)
>
> When i download this files they contain html code for example:
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=#ede2cd background="">
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Here: Rear view of the
> middle front
> section of the imperial carrier SENECA containing the panoramic quarters
> and a
> large sensor bay. There are still many details to come, such as small
> surface
> structures, antennas and others.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0
> src="cid:054a01c66b18$9c083ad0$16b2a8c0@SVEN"
> align=baseline border=0></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
> The src links in the image tags (if they are links at all) don't work.
>
> Has anyone ever experienced similar problems? I have no idea what goes 
> wrong
> here.
>
> Regards Roman
>
>
>
>
> "Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image 
>> file?
>> Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics
>> here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as
>> Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Sven
>
>
>

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Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Hello Roman,
> 
> That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
> contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
> configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.
> 
> Sven

The problem is that there is a difference between embedding and 
attaching an image.  You are embedding them, which makes them an 
integral part of your HTML messages.  You should attach them instead, 
because apparently some software has problems with embedded images. 
Outlook Express does allow using either method.

I don't remember the details because I switched from OE to Thunderbird 
some time ago.  Besides, right at the moment I'm using Linux so can't 
check it out -- but the option is there.

It would probably cause fewer problems if you would switch to straight 
text instead of HTML.  It seems that HTML is rarely used in newsgroups 
-- at least in the ones I'm familiar with.  That choice can be selected 
in OE as well.

One other minor quibble...  All your images have been posted with the 
same name "SpaceCarrier", so if anyone saves your images (as I do) they 
all have to be renamed to do so.    :-)     (Use SpaceCarrier-1, 
SpaceCarrier-2, ..., etc.)

      -=- Larry -=-

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Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA.I have started to add 
neccessary details such as superstructures to the side bays, but much 
more to come!

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Larry,

thanks for your answer. I am going to change beginning from the upcoming 
"Preview 09" the format from HTML to Text.

Greetings,

Sven




"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:445410fd$1@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Hello Roman,
>>
>> That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
>> contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
>> configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.
>>
>> Sven
>
> The problem is that there is a difference between embedding and attaching 
> an image.  You are embedding them, which makes them an integral part of 
> your HTML messages.  You should attach them instead, because apparently 
> some software has problems with embedded images. Outlook Express does 
> allow using either method.
>
> I don't remember the details because I switched from OE to Thunderbird 
> some time ago.  Besides, right at the moment I'm using Linux so can't 
> check it out -- but the option is there.
>
> It would probably cause fewer problems if you would switch to straight 
> text instead of HTML.  It seems that HTML is rarely used in newsgroups --  
> at least in the ones I'm familiar with.  That choice can be selected in OE 
> as well.
>
> One other minor quibble...  All your images have been posted with the same 
> name "SpaceCarrier", so if anyone saves your images (as I do) they all 
> have to be renamed to do so.    :-)     (Use SpaceCarrier-1, 
> SpaceCarrier-2, ..., etc.)
>
>      -=- Larry -=-

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:21:00 -0700, Larry Hudson <org### [at] yahoocom>
wrote:

>Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Hello Roman,
>> 
>> That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
>> contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
>> configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.
>> 
>> Sven
>
>The problem is that there is a difference between embedding and 
>attaching an image.  You are embedding them, which makes them an 
>integral part of your HTML messages.  You should attach them instead, 
>because apparently some software has problems with embedded images. 
>Outlook Express does allow using either method.
>
>I don't remember the details because I switched from OE to Thunderbird 
>some time ago.  Besides, right at the moment I'm using Linux so can't 
>check it out -- but the option is there.
>
>It would probably cause fewer problems if you would switch to straight 
>text instead of HTML.  It seems that HTML is rarely used in newsgroups 
>-- at least in the ones I'm familiar with.  That choice can be selected 
>in OE as well.
>
>One other minor quibble...  All your images have been posted with the 
>same name "SpaceCarrier", so if anyone saves your images (as I do) they 
>all have to be renamed to do so.    :-)     (Use SpaceCarrier-1, 
>SpaceCarrier-2, ..., etc.)
>
>      -=- Larry -=-

Just for info.  I use Agent 3 and have no problems seeing these
images.

John

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"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Hi Sven
>
> I'm viewing this newsgroup with a web browser (i tried FireFox and IE6)...
>
> In your case i just see:
>
>   Attachments:
>   Download 'iso-8859-1' (1 KB)
>
> When i download this files they contain html code...

> The src links in the image tags (if they are links at all) don't work.
>
> Has anyone ever experienced similar problems? I have no idea what goes wrong
> here.
>
> Regards Roman
>

I'm having the same problem, using Netscape Communicator as my browser.  But
I think Larry Hudson's suggestion to Sven will solve it.

Looking forward to seeing the images, Sven!

Ken W.

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Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA.I have started to add 
neccessary details such as superstructures to the side bays, but much more 
to come!

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High!

Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA.I have started to add 
> neccessary details such as superstructures to the side bays, but much more 
> to come!

Cool Earth-like desert moon, that 68 Cyg XIV-7! Did you make it also 
with PoV-Ray?

And, yes, I really would like to know how long (in kilometers) the 
SENECA carrier is altogether...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

Now playing: Ciel Ouvert (Yello)

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Hi Jörg,

getting your good feedback is my pride! You want to know the SENECA's 
length: the two large bays are the longest parts of the carrier, and they 
range from approximately -200 to +1800. Each unit is a meter, as I am used 
for the metric system. That means, that the SENECA is (a little bit more 
than) 2 KM long!

The SENECA is a project for a SF computer animation, in fact, there is 
already a small clip of 10 seconds. But the ship is not yet completed, I 
just like to spice up the temporary previews with a nice environment. More 
details are to be added to the SENECA, and I also still have to finish many 
of the floors inside that giant ship. The floors do exist, but lack items 
and other things.

About the backgrounds: no these backgrounds are made just by graphic program 
or photo. But there are ways to make a POV-Ray universe (search for 
"stars.inc").

Alright, I hope to hear from you (all) again!

Sven




"Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann" <yaz### [at] gmxde> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> High!
>
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA.I have started to add 
>> neccessary details such as superstructures to the side bays, but much 
>> more to come!
>
> Cool Earth-like desert moon, that 68 Cyg XIV-7! Did you make it also with 
> PoV-Ray?
>
> And, yes, I really would like to know how long (in kilometers) the SENECA 
> carrier is altogether...
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar
>
> Now playing: Ciel Ouvert (Yello)

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Here: I have started to add neccessary details such as superstructures to 
the side bays, still some more to come!

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joh### [at] worldcom wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:21:00 -0700, Larry Hudson <org### [at] yahoocom>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Sven Littkowski wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Roman,
>>>
>>>That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
>>>contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
>>>configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.
>>>
>>>Sven
>>
>>The problem is that there is a difference between embedding and 
>>attaching an image.  You are embedding them, which makes them an 
>>integral part of your HTML messages.  You should attach them instead, 
>>because apparently some software has problems with embedded images. 
>>Outlook Express does allow using either method.

... (Text deleted) ...

>>     -=- Larry -=-
> 
> 
> Just for info.  I use Agent 3 and have no problems seeing these
> images.
> 
> John

Yes, and I have no problem with Thunderbird, but Roman Reiner did have 
problems.  I was merely pointing out that attaching images causes fewer 
problems than embedding images.  There is a difference between these two 
methods.

      -=- Larry -=-

PS.  To Roman:

It might be worthwhile for you to consider using a real newsreader 
instead of the web interface with a browser.  I think Thunderbird is a 
good choice, and it's free -- but there are many other good choices as 
well.  (Of course, Thunderbird is primarily meant for e-mail, but it 
does newsgroups very well also.)

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Sven Littkowski nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 30/04/2006 07:10:

> 
There is a significative difference between the HTML post with embeded image and text
with attached 
image. HTML: 319 K, text: 324K.
Both shows up correctly here.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
  Maybe God wants us to meet a few wrong people
before meeting the right one, so that when
we finally meet the person, we will know how to be
grateful.

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Sven Littkowski nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 30/04/2006 16:55:
> Hi Jörg,
> 
> getting your good feedback is my pride! You want to know the SENECA's 
> length: the two large bays are the longest parts of the carrier, and they 
> range from approximately -200 to +1800. Each unit is a meter, as I am used 
> for the metric system. That means, that the SENECA is (a little bit more 
> than) 2 KM long!
> 
> The SENECA is a project for a SF computer animation, in fact, there is 
> already a small clip of 10 seconds. But the ship is not yet completed, I 
> just like to spice up the temporary previews with a nice environment. More 
> details are to be added to the SENECA, and I also still have to finish many 
> of the floors inside that giant ship. The floors do exist, but lack items 
> and other things.
> 
> About the backgrounds: no these backgrounds are made just by graphic program 
> or photo. But there are ways to make a POV-Ray universe (search for 
> "stars.inc").
> 
> Alright, I hope to hear from you (all) again!
> 
> Sven
> 
> 
> 
star.inc don't like AA! You may need to multiply the color_map values by some large
values. How 
large depending on the method used and the recursion level.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
CONGRESS.SYS Corrupted:  Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/n)?

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Hi Alain,

in some of my previews I used the "stars.inc" file which I like a lot! I 
have not encountered the problems with AA as you mention. Those files were 
generated with switched on AA.

However, I appreciate your note and hope to get many more informations and 
feedback from you.

Greetings,

Sven



"Alain" <ele### [at] netscapenet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4456a0e6$1@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 30/04/2006 16:55:
>> Hi Jörg,
>>
>> getting your good feedback is my pride! You want to know the SENECA's 
>> length: the two large bays are the longest parts of the carrier, and they 
>> range from approximately -200 to +1800. Each unit is a meter, as I am 
>> used for the metric system. That means, that the SENECA is (a little bit 
>> more than) 2 KM long!
>>
>> The SENECA is a project for a SF computer animation, in fact, there is 
>> already a small clip of 10 seconds. But the ship is not yet completed, I 
>> just like to spice up the temporary previews with a nice environment. 
>> More details are to be added to the SENECA, and I also still have to 
>> finish many of the floors inside that giant ship. The floors do exist, 
>> but lack items and other things.
>>
>> About the backgrounds: no these backgrounds are made just by graphic 
>> program or photo. But there are ways to make a POV-Ray universe (search 
>> for "stars.inc").
>>
>> Alright, I hope to hear from you (all) again!
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
> star.inc don't like AA! You may need to multiply the color_map values by 
> some large values. How large depending on the method used and the 
> recursion level.
>
> -- 
> Alain
> -------------------------------------------------
> CONGRESS.SYS Corrupted:  Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/n)?

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Scene:
The mega preview showing the current stage of the imperial carrier 
SENECA.
The interior of the two large bays comes soon to its completion, and I 
will
continue then to work on the outside details of the bays and the middle
section.

PS: The "Preview 10 (1.0 MB): Imperial Carrier" contains a larger image 
of the SENECA (6400x4800 pixels) and the render statistics.

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System/Software:
Dual Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GH CPU
1.25 GB RAM
Windows XP Media Edition
POV-Ray 3.7.0 Beta 12a

Statistics:
File Sze 6400x4800 pixels, true color
File Format JPEG RGB


CPU time used: kernel 1.61 seconds, user 105.64 seconds, total 107.25
seconds.
Elapsed time 118.45 seconds.
Render averaged 8.57 PPS (9.46 PPS CPU time) over 1015 pixels.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parser Statistics

Finite Objects:         5550
Infinite Objects:          1
Light Sources:             3
Total:                  5554

Parser Time
  Parse Time:       0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0.000 seconds)
              using 1 thread(s) with 52.671 CPU-seconds total
  Bounding Time:    0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0.031 seconds)
              using 1 thread(s) with 0.031 CPU-seconds total

Render Options
  Quality:  9
  Bounding boxes.......On   Bounding threshold: 3
  Antialiasing.........On  (Method 1, Threshold 0.300, Depth 3, Jitter 1.00)

Render Statistics
Image Resolution 6400 x 4800

Pixels:         32640624   Samples:         5630760   Smpls/Pxl: 0.17
Rays:           38348708   Saved:              2448   Max Level: 4/5

Ray->Shape Intersection          Tests       Succeeded  Percentage

Blob                         115032246        26819919     23.32
Blob Component               309186348       149996941     48.51
Blob Bound                  1263903690       309186348     24.46
Box                         4359046387       268788008      6.17
Cone/Cylinder              25648885221       256481579      1.00
CSG Intersection            1235856708       106116398      8.59
CSG Merge                     99103304        10096307     10.19
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Shadow Cache Hits:         17424493
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Transmitted Rays:             17983

Smallest Alloc:                   9 bytes
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Peak memory used:         141014630 bytes

Render Time:
  Photon Time:      No photons
  Radiosity Time:   0 hours  0 minutes 38 seconds (38.562 seconds)
              using 1 thread(s) with 32.781 CPU-seconds total
  Trace Time:      21 hours 23 minutes  5 seconds (76985.141 seconds)
              using 1 thread(s) with 70967.859 CPU-seconds total

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The attached image had to reduced dramatically in its data amount and image 
size. On
request, I can e-mail you a high-quality JPEG in the size of 6400x4800 
pixels..

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Attachments:
Download 'SpaceCarrier1MB.jpg' (670 KB)

Preview of image 'SpaceCarrier1MB.jpg'

Sven Littkowski wrote:
> System/Software:
> Dual Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GH CPU
> 1.25 GB RAM
> Windows XP Media Edition
> POV-Ray 3.7.0 Beta 12a

> Render Time:
>   Photon Time:      No photons
>   Radiosity Time:   0 hours  0 minutes 38 seconds (38.562 seconds)
>               using 1 thread(s) with 32.781 CPU-seconds total
>   Trace Time:      21 hours 23 minutes  5 seconds (76985.141 seconds)
>               using 1 thread(s) with 70967.859 CPU-seconds total

Just out of curiosity, why are you using only one thread on a dual CPU 
system?  Is it just so you can keep using your computer in the meantime?

...Chambers

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Larry Hudson <org### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>
> *snip*
>
> PS.  To Roman:
>
> It might be worthwhile for you to consider using a real newsreader
> instead of the web interface with a browser.  I think Thunderbird is a
> good choice, and it's free -- but there are many other good choices as
> well.  (Of course, Thunderbird is primarily meant for e-mail, but it
> does newsgroups very well also.)

I'm actually using Thunderbird already but only for emails. I weren't aware
of its newsreader abilities. I'll try this now!

To sven:
Since you attach your images i can see them with the web browser without any
problems and your model is great!
Keep it up!

Regards Roman

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To Roman:

My pleasure! The fault was on my side - I should have done it from the very 
first moment that way (attaching). Sorry again for the temporary 
inconvenience.

Greetings,

Sven



> To sven:
> Since you attach your images i can see them with the web browser without 
> any
> problems and your model is great!
> Keep it up!

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Seeing features and their shadows as signs...

That reminds me for the stunning observation, that some surface feature on 
planet Mars (some big mountain) would look like some sort of face.

Sven



"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4452e077@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
>> SENECA.
>
> These two attached images are simply cropped details from your preview 3
> and 4 images.
>
> Just curious -- was the "happy face" intentional?
>
> And when I enlarge the second image I can see it's just a hatch of some
> sort and shadows.  But with a normal, unexpanded view it looks (to me)
> like a figure of a man holding a weapon.
>
> This is NOT a criticism of your very impressive images and I'm not
> suggesting changes.  But I was somewhat amused at these two details.
>
>      -=- Larry -=-
>

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Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Seeing features and their shadows as signs...
> 
> That reminds me for the stunning observation, that some surface feature on 
> planet Mars (some big mountain) would look like some sort of face.
> 
> Sven
> 
Yep...  Try a Wikipedia or a Google images search for "face on Mars"
(Google images gave 2.7 million hits...)    :-)

      -=- Larry -=-

PS.  Both Wikipedia and Google showed a "happy face" image on Mars as 
well.            :)     <---  My Martian Happy Face

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"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schreef in bericht 
news:47a3e23a$1@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Seeing features and their shadows as signs...
>>
>> That reminds me for the stunning observation, that some surface feature 
>> on planet Mars (some big mountain) would look like some sort of face.
>>
>> Sven
>>
> Yep...  Try a Wikipedia or a Google images search for "face on Mars"
> (Google images gave 2.7 million hits...)    :-)
>
>      -=- Larry -=-
>
> PS.  Both Wikipedia and Google showed a "happy face" image on Mars as 
> well.            :)     <---  My Martian Happy Face


And now  new "evidence" of life on Mars emerges: 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7205004.stm  :-)

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> And now  new "evidence" of life on Mars emerges:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7205004.stm  :-)

I hope it isn't one of the sand people.  Those creatures are vicious... ;)

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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.47a449a4d0bb57b2120b4440@news.povray.org...
> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>> And now  new "evidence" of life on Mars emerges:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7205004.stm  :-)
>
> I hope it isn't one of the sand people.  Those creatures are vicious... ;)
>
I make a little prediction: when Spirit will fail (as it is due to do some 
day) it will be blamed on the mysterious Martians!!

Thomas

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>>> And now  new "evidence" of life on Mars emerges:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7205004.stm  :-)
>>
>> I hope it isn't one of the sand people.  Those creatures are vicious... 
>> ;)
>>
> I make a little prediction: when Spirit will fail (as it is due to do some 
> day) it will be blamed on the mysterious Martians!!

Maybe they'll stick new batteries in it for us? =P

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I think, we see here on of the POV-Ray programmers (probably Mr. Buck or Mr. 
Cason) in hi real environment, making thoughts how to improve POV-Ray for 
those Earthlings...

Actually, the orign of this thinking POV-Ray programmer is not planet Mars, 
they still come from Earth. But they are an olde race, a saurian race. At 
the time the intelligent saurian species destroyed nearly the planet Earth 
in one of their last wars against themselfes, they managed to settle for 
some time on Planet Mars. But that was just a relatively short period in 
their existence, because Mars was already unhabitable. So, when having had 
all resources together and the scientific knowledge to travel much further 
into space, they left Mars.

Now, some of them came back to observe the new intelligent life on Earth, 
the mammal life (we humans). A long time they observe us. The first contact 
happened thousands of years ago. Not in a physical way as everyone would 
expect based on our movies, no, the first encounters are on a mind base: 
they measure us on the closeness or distance between our cultural values how 
a life should be lived (how to behave, how to handle situations), and how we 
at the end of the day really life our life - how close we come to our own 
moral ethics (which is: not even close). That is, how we're being evaluated 
since centuries. The first contact had happened a long time ago, since then 
we're always observed and measured in this very descent and unrecognizeable 
way. Their guidelines in trans-species contacts are just requesting absolute 
descentness, preventing large cultural shocks for the younger race.

Now, since humans evolve and have now computers, the Saurians brought now 
their second tool of evaluating our species into the game: POV-Ray. This 
tool allows them to get even a better understanding of our inner dreams and 
values. The NASA image shows probably D. Buck or C. Casson (both are 
sauropods) sitting and evaluating our posts in this forum. The more we 
evolve, the more direct contacts they will allow us to see from them, that 
is why we finally see now one of the evaluating POV programmers on that 
photo.

Once they consider mankind ready for the final contact, we gonna meet them 
physically.

Sven



"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:47a48f81@news.povray.org...
>
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
> news:web.47a449a4d0bb57b2120b4440@news.povray.org...
>> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>>> And now  new "evidence" of life on Mars emerges:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7205004.stm  :-)
>>
>> I hope it isn't one of the sand people.  Those creatures are vicious... 
>> ;)
>>
> I make a little prediction: when Spirit will fail (as it is due to do some 
> day) it will be blamed on the mysterious Martians!!
>
> Thomas
>

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> wrote:
> Once they consider mankind ready for the final contact...

I take it means a RSOCP like no other before! :P

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"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> schreef in bericht 
news:47a52415$1@news.povray.org...
>I think, we see here on of the POV-Ray programmers (probably Mr. Buck or 
>Mr. Cason) in hi real environment, making thoughts how to improve POV-Ray 
>for those Earthlings...
>
> Actually, the orign of this thinking POV-Ray programmer is not planet 
> Mars, they still come from Earth. But they are an olde race, a saurian 
> race. At the time the intelligent saurian species destroyed nearly the 
> planet Earth in one of their last wars against themselfes, they managed to 
> settle for some time on Planet Mars. But that was just a relatively short 
> period in their existence, because Mars was already unhabitable. So, when 
> having had all resources together and the scientific knowledge to travel 
> much further into space, they left Mars.
>
> Now, some of them came back to observe the new intelligent life on Earth, 
> the mammal life (we humans). A long time they observe us. The first 
> contact happened thousands of years ago. Not in a physical way as everyone 
> would expect based on our movies, no, the first encounters are on a mind 
> base: they measure us on the closeness or distance between our cultural 
> values how a life should be lived (how to behave, how to handle 
> situations), and how we at the end of the day really life our life - how 
> close we come to our own moral ethics (which is: not even close). That is, 
> how we're being evaluated since centuries. The first contact had happened 
> a long time ago, since then we're always observed and measured in this 
> very descent and unrecognizeable way. Their guidelines in trans-species 
> contacts are just requesting absolute descentness, preventing large 
> cultural shocks for the younger race.
>
> Now, since humans evolve and have now computers, the Saurians brought now 
> their second tool of evaluating our species into the game: POV-Ray. This 
> tool allows them to get even a better understanding of our inner dreams 
> and values. The NASA image shows probably D. Buck or C. Casson (both are 
> sauropods) sitting and evaluating our posts in this forum. The more we 
> evolve, the more direct contacts they will allow us to see from them, that 
> is why we finally see now one of the evaluating POV programmers on that 
> photo.
>
> Once they consider mankind ready for the final contact, we gonna meet them 
> physically.
>
> Sven
>

You ssseem to know a lot about usss, missster Littkowssski...! Have you been 
ssspying on usss, perhapsss?
We ssshall have to terminate your exissstence, before you ssspread the 
newsss and do usss damage. We ssshall now proceed to remove you to the 
planet Marsss where you will be judged and terminated in due time. Pleassse 
remain where you are presssently ssso that we can adjussst the beam....

SSSlorg, Third Watcher

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:-D


Sven





"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:47a6c913$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> schreef in bericht 
> news:47a52415$1@news.povray.org...
>>I think, we see here on of the POV-Ray programmers (probably Mr. Buck or 
>>Mr. Cason) in hi real environment, making thoughts how to improve POV-Ray 
>>for those Earthlings...
>>
>> Actually, the orign of this thinking POV-Ray programmer is not planet 
>> Mars, they still come from Earth. But they are an olde race, a saurian 
>> race. At the time the intelligent saurian species destroyed nearly the 
>> planet Earth in one of their last wars against themselfes, they managed 
>> to settle for some time on Planet Mars. But that was just a relatively 
>> short period in their existence, because Mars was already unhabitable. 
>> So, when having had all resources together and the scientific knowledge 
>> to travel much further into space, they left Mars.
>>
>> Now, some of them came back to observe the new intelligent life on Earth, 
>> the mammal life (we humans). A long time they observe us. The first 
>> contact happened thousands of years ago. Not in a physical way as 
>> everyone would expect based on our movies, no, the first encounters are 
>> on a mind base: they measure us on the closeness or distance between our 
>> cultural values how a life should be lived (how to behave, how to handle 
>> situations), and how we at the end of the day really life our life - how 
>> close we come to our own moral ethics (which is: not even close). That 
>> is, how we're being evaluated since centuries. The first contact had 
>> happened a long time ago, since then we're always observed and measured 
>> in this very descent and unrecognizeable way. Their guidelines in 
>> trans-species contacts are just requesting absolute descentness, 
>> preventing large cultural shocks for the younger race.
>>
>> Now, since humans evolve and have now computers, the Saurians brought now 
>> their second tool of evaluating our species into the game: POV-Ray. This 
>> tool allows them to get even a better understanding of our inner dreams 
>> and values. The NASA image shows probably D. Buck or C. Casson (both are 
>> sauropods) sitting and evaluating our posts in this forum. The more we 
>> evolve, the more direct contacts they will allow us to see from them, 
>> that is why we finally see now one of the evaluating POV programmers on 
>> that photo.
>>
>> Once they consider mankind ready for the final contact, we gonna meet 
>> them physically.
>>
>> Sven
>>
>
> You ssseem to know a lot about usss, missster Littkowssski...! Have you 
> been ssspying on usss, perhapsss?
> We ssshall have to terminate your exissstence, before you ssspread the 
> newsss and do usss damage. We ssshall now proceed to remove you to the 
> planet Marsss where you will be judged and terminated in due time. 
> Pleassse remain where you are presssently ssso that we can adjussst the 
> beam....
>
> SSSlorg, Third Watcher
>
>
>

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