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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 02:33:00
Message: <4263549c@news.povray.org>
Thought you might be interested in this scene...

I used Geomorph (not the last version!) for the landscape, Gilles Tran's
Make Cloud, and  Gena's POVtree for the vegetation. The look-out is the
Lioness from the Taschen collection.

As always, comments are welcome.

Enjoy!

Thomas


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 02:46:30
Message: <426357c6@news.povray.org>
beautiful !

cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 03:17:20
Message: <42635f00@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> a écrit dans le message de
news:4263549c@news.povray.org...
> Thought you might be interested in this scene...
>
Wow beautifull!
These are not the Netherlands are they? I consider seeing neither windmill
nor tulip as a clue ;-)
My 2 cents: trees are too small for a rain forest and too dense for savanna,
maybe it is a transition area?

Marc


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 03:36:43
Message: <4263638b@news.povray.org>
"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht
news:42635f00@news.povray.org...
> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> a écrit dans le message de
> news:4263549c@news.povray.org...
> > Thought you might be interested in this scene...
> >
> Wow beautifull!
> These are not the Netherlands are they? I consider seeing neither windmill
> nor tulip as a clue ;-)
> My 2 cents: trees are too small for a rain forest and too dense for
savanna,
> maybe it is a transition area?
>

Thank you, Marc!
No, not NL indeed, although.... have you heard about the "Frisian Alps"?
They appear on bottles of Berenburg (nice drink when you are cold,
especially on a ship in winter).

So, what is this landscape? Indeed, a transition. Trees are concentrated in
the valleys, where the water is. But of course, I did not intend any real
landscape. It is the mood I am interested in.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 03:37:13
Message: <426363a9$1@news.povray.org>
"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> schreef in bericht
news:426357c6@news.povray.org...
> beautiful !
>

Thank you, Zeger!

Thomas


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From: Remy Closset
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 10:32:27
Message: <4263c4fb$1@news.povray.org>
Romantic
It makes me think about  Der Hirt auf dem Felsen  of Franz Schubert
Really a "drawing" not simply an image.

rémy closset
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> a écrit dans le message de news: 
4263549c@news.povray.org...
> Thought you might be interested in this scene...
>
> I used Geomorph (not the last version!) for the landscape, Gilles Tran's
> Make Cloud, and  Gena's POVtree for the vegetation. The look-out is the
> Lioness from the Taschen collection.
>
> As always, comments are welcome.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Thomas
>
>
>


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 18 Apr 2005 10:42:54
Message: <Xns963CAA07F35Eseed7@news.povray.org>
in news:4263549c@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:

> As always, comments are welcome.
> 

Thomas,

To what gamma did you render the image? It looks very flat here, the 
darkest tone is in the range of rgb 0.2

Ingo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 03:45:21
Message: <4264b711@news.povray.org>
"ingo" <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> schreef in bericht
news:Xns963CAA07F35Eseed7@news.povray.org...
> in news:4263549c@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> > As always, comments are welcome.
> >
>
> Thomas,
>
> To what gamma did you render the image? It looks very flat here, the
> darkest tone is in the range of rgb 0.2
>
> Ingo

Assumed_gamma 1 was used; no radiosity; only one light source.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 03:47:50
Message: <4264b7a6@news.povray.org>
"Remy Closset" <rem### [at] tiscalifr> schreef in bericht
news:4263c4fb$1@news.povray.org...
> Romantic
> It makes me think about  Der Hirt auf dem Felsen  of Franz Schubert
> Really a "drawing" not simply an image.
>
> rémy closset

Thank you, Rémy! I agree with you. It is probably my deeply rooted romantic
mood  :-)
I have been reminded also somewhat of the painter Kaspar Friedrich.

Thomas


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 03:50:48
Message: <4264b858@news.povray.org>
I think this is a really good scene, but the left half of it is lit almost
completely by ambient lighting and doesn't look so good in my opinion. With
all those leaves radiosity might be out of the question, but you might
experiment with shadowless lights.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 04:01:30
Message: <4264bada@news.povray.org>
"ingo" <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> schreef in bericht
news:Xns963CAA07F35Eseed7@news.povray.org...
> in news:4263549c@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> > As always, comments are welcome.
> >
>
> Thomas,
>
> To what gamma did you render the image? It looks very flat here, the
> darkest tone is in the range of rgb 0.2
>
> Ingo

There is a marked difference between the aspect of the image in the mail
(here it is correctly contrasted) and when viewed (indeed) in PaintShopPro
where it is more washed out. I decreased gamma there to 0.76 and obtained a
satisfying (and similar) tone.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 04:15:00
Message: <4264be04@news.povray.org>
"Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> schreef in bericht
news:4264b858@news.povray.org...
> I think this is a really good scene, but the left half of it is lit almost
> completely by ambient lighting and doesn't look so good in my opinion.
With
> all those leaves radiosity might be out of the question, but you might
> experiment with shadowless lights.
>
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
Thank you indeed.
Now, you point to something very puzzling and I was waiting for somebody to
point this out. The fact is that there is no ambient lighting "used" there,
at the left, and I am wondering where it comes from. Not from the rock
texturing (no finish); I had also a shadowless light, then commented it out
because I had the impression that it made things worse. Could there be some
freak reflection? I suppose not, though...

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 04:29:53
Message: <4264c181@news.povray.org>
Got it!!

Being used to Moray, where I always set the ambient_light in the
global_settings to 0 (or a very low value), I forgot that in POV the default
of ambient_light is 1  :-(

No puzzle left! I shall provide a better image!!

Thanks for making me think again!

Thomas


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 14:56:04
Message: <42655444@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message
news:4264c181@news.povray.org...
> Got it!!
>
> Being used to Moray, where I always set the ambient_light in the
> global_settings to 0 (or a very low value), I forgot that in POV the
default
> of ambient_light is 1  :-(

The default for ambient in Pov is 0.1. Still a little too high for my
liking, I usually put
#default {finish {ambient 0.02}} at the top of every file, but certainly not
that high.

Gail


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 19 Apr 2005 15:58:36
Message: <426562ec$1@news.povray.org>
> >I forgot that in POV the default
> > of ambient_light is 1  :-(
>
> The default for ambient in Pov is 0.1.

Just to avoid confusion, POV-Ray has two values for ambient light: the first
is the global value, specified in global_settings, that is a multiplier for
all ambient light in the scene. This is 1 by default and you might want to
change it if, say, you wanted the scene to have colored ambient lighting.
The second value is per-object and specified in the finish block. The
default for this one is 0.1.

Although all ambient lighting can be turned off with global_settings
{ambient_light 0}, the best way to do this is with #default{finish{ambient
0}} as this can be overriden for a specific object.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out - corrected for ambient lighting
Date: 20 Apr 2005 03:00:00
Message: <4265fdf0@news.povray.org>
I put ambient_light in the general settings to 0.1 in this new scene
version, and added a shadowless light to highlight somewhat the cliff's
shadows. Much better in my opinion.

What do you think?

Thomas


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 20 Apr 2005 03:44:47
Message: <4266086f$1@news.povray.org>
"Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> a écrit dans le message de
news:426562ec$1@news.povray.org...
> Although all ambient lighting can be turned off with global_settings
> {ambient_light 0}, the best way to do this is with #default{finish{ambient
> 0}} as this can be overriden for a specific object.
>
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
This is very usefull for radiosity lighting when you want some objects to
emit light and the others not.

Marc


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: The look-out - corrected for ambient lighting
Date: 20 Apr 2005 09:08:09
Message: <42665439$1@news.povray.org>
> I put ambient_light in the general settings to 0.1 in this new scene
> version, and added a shadowless light to highlight somewhat the cliff's
> shadows. Much better in my opinion.
>
> What do you think?

Definitely a big improvement!

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The look-out
Date: 21 Apr 2005 08:32:49
Message: <42679d71$1@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsacom> schreef in bericht
news:42655444@news.povray.org...
>
> The default for ambient in Pov is 0.1. Still a little too high for my
> liking, I usually put
> #default {finish {ambient 0.02}} at the top of every file, but certainly
not
> that high.
>
> Gail
>
>
Well, thanks for reminding me that the finish ambient default was 0.1. I had
indeed forgotten that too!!

Thomas


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