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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 04:01:43
Message: <415bbd67@news.povray.org>
Hi folks,
I wanted to improve my McIntosh image, mostly the table material and the
tubes filaments light emission.
I had to fiddle with radiosity settings. filaments are just high ambient
textured stacked tori, (20  ,2 per valve, arealights should take forever to
trace and point lights should be unrealistic)
I used save & load radiosity data (as found on Jaime's page
http://www.ignorancia.org/t_tips.php ) with higher ambient for the filaments
during the pretrace
I am still not quite satisfied: lighting by filaments is uneven.

Modeled with Moray with some  Luis' DirectCode plugin additions and directly
exported and rendered in Megapov 1.1

A larger version can be found here:
http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Pics/Stock/Autres/mcintoshhdri4.png

Comments & advices are welcome as usual :-)


Marc


here are my radiosity settings

#declare use_rad=2;
global_settings{

 #if (use_rad)
 radiosity{
  // save settings: modified Outdoor settings from rad_def.inc
  #if (use_rad=1)

    brightness      1
    count           1300
    error_bound    1
    gray_threshold   0.0
    low_error_factor 0.6
    minimum_reuse    .015
    nearest_count  5
    recursion_limit  1

      adc_bailout      0.05
      max_sample       -1.0
      media            off
      normal           on
      always_sample    1

      pretrace_start   0.08
      pretrace_end     0.02


    save_file "rad-save-load.rad"
  #else
    // load settings
    pretrace_start 1 pretrace_end 1
    load_file "rad-save-load.rad"
    error_bound 1  // it's important to specify the same value used to save
data
    recursion_limit 1  // also the same if specified
    always_sample off  // no more samples: specially useful with focal blur
  #end
 }
 #end
}


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From: LightBeam
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 07:39:05
Message: <415bf059$1@news.povray.org>
Marc Jacquier wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I wanted to improve my McIntosh image, mostly the table material and the
> tubes filaments light emission.
> I had to fiddle with radiosity settings. filaments are just high ambient
> textured stacked tori, (20  ,2 per valve, arealights should take forever to
> trace and point lights should be unrealistic)
> I used save & load radiosity data (as found on Jaime's page
> http://www.ignorancia.org/t_tips.php ) with higher ambient for the filaments
> during the pretrace
> I am still not quite satisfied: lighting by filaments is uneven.
> 
> Modeled with Moray with some  Luis' DirectCode plugin additions and directly
> exported and rendered in Megapov 1.1
> 
> A larger version can be found here:
> http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Pics/Stock/Autres/mcintoshhdri4.png
> 
> Comments & advices are welcome as usual :-)
> 
> 
> Marc

Nice version too. It seem that you remove the bump and changed the 
texture of the table...


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 08:50:02
Message: <cjgv55$apn$1@chho.imagico.de>
Marc Jacquier wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I wanted to improve my McIntosh image, mostly the table material and the
> tubes filaments light emission.

I must say i like the old version better.  The wood pattern looks 
somewhat strange in this one.

Your comment says it is important to use the same error_bound when 
taking and reusing radiosity data - this is not necessarily the case 
(and to avoid taking too many additional samples in the final trace it 
makes sense to use a higher value there.

Christoph

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From: Andrew the Orchid
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 14:09:08
Message: <415c4bc4$1@news.povray.org>
Dude, that is too cool...


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From: Remy Closset
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 14:58:16
Message: <415c5748@news.povray.org>
I think the same about the wooden tecxture. It will be better to say
"mackintosh in the barn"
The rest is very great as usually with your posts Marc.

rémy

"Marc Jacquier" <nos### [at] wanadoofr> a écrit dans le message de
news:415bbd67@news.povray.org...
> Hi folks,
> I wanted to improve my McIntosh image, mostly the table material and the
> tubes filaments light emission.
> I had to fiddle with radiosity settings. filaments are just high ambient
> textured stacked tori, (20  ,2 per valve, arealights should take forever
to
> trace and point lights should be unrealistic)
> I used save & load radiosity data (as found on Jaime's page
> http://www.ignorancia.org/t_tips.php ) with higher ambient for the
filaments
> during the pretrace
> I am still not quite satisfied: lighting by filaments is uneven.
>
> Modeled with Moray with some  Luis' DirectCode plugin additions and
directly
> exported and rendered in Megapov 1.1
>
> A larger version can be found here:
> http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Pics/Stock/Autres/mcintoshhdri4.png
>
> Comments & advices are welcome as usual :-)
>
>
> Marc
>
>
> here are my radiosity settings
>
> #declare use_rad=2;
> global_settings{
>
>  #if (use_rad)
>  radiosity{
>   // save settings: modified Outdoor settings from rad_def.inc
>   #if (use_rad=1)
>
>     brightness      1
>     count           1300
>     error_bound    1
>     gray_threshold   0.0
>     low_error_factor 0.6
>     minimum_reuse    .015
>     nearest_count  5
>     recursion_limit  1
>
>       adc_bailout      0.05
>       max_sample       -1.0
>       media            off
>       normal           on
>       always_sample    1
>
>       pretrace_start   0.08
>       pretrace_end     0.02
>
>
>     save_file "rad-save-load.rad"
>   #else
>     // load settings
>     pretrace_start 1 pretrace_end 1
>     load_file "rad-save-load.rad"
>     error_bound 1  // it's important to specify the same value used to
save
> data
>     recursion_limit 1  // also the same if specified
>     always_sample off  // no more samples: specially useful with focal
blur
>   #end
>  }
>  #end
> }
>
>
>
>


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From: Oleguer Vilella
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 30 Sep 2004 16:07:59
Message: <415c679f@news.povray.org>
Yeah, that's very good. Congratulations!!!!!

Best regards,
Oleguer



"Remy Closset" <rem### [at] tiscalifr> escribió en el mensaje
news:415c5748@news.povray.org...
> I think the same about the wooden tecxture. It will be better to say
> "mackintosh in the barn"
> The rest is very great as usually with your posts Marc.
>
> rémy
>
> "Marc Jacquier" <nos### [at] wanadoofr> a écrit dans le message
de
> news:415bbd67@news.povray.org...
> > Hi folks,
> > I wanted to improve my McIntosh image, mostly the table material and the
> > tubes filaments light emission.
> > I had to fiddle with radiosity settings. filaments are just high ambient
> > textured stacked tori, (20  ,2 per valve, arealights should take forever
> to
> > trace and point lights should be unrealistic)
> > I used save & load radiosity data (as found on Jaime's page
> > http://www.ignorancia.org/t_tips.php ) with higher ambient for the
> filaments
> > during the pretrace
> > I am still not quite satisfied: lighting by filaments is uneven.
> >
> > Modeled with Moray with some  Luis' DirectCode plugin additions and
> directly
> > exported and rendered in Megapov 1.1
> >
> > A larger version can be found here:
> > http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Pics/Stock/Autres/mcintoshhdri4.png
> >
> > Comments & advices are welcome as usual :-)
> >
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > here are my radiosity settings
> >
> > #declare use_rad=2;
> > global_settings{
> >
> >  #if (use_rad)
> >  radiosity{
> >   // save settings: modified Outdoor settings from rad_def.inc
> >   #if (use_rad=1)
> >
> >     brightness      1
> >     count           1300
> >     error_bound    1
> >     gray_threshold   0.0
> >     low_error_factor 0.6
> >     minimum_reuse    .015
> >     nearest_count  5
> >     recursion_limit  1
> >
> >       adc_bailout      0.05
> >       max_sample       -1.0
> >       media            off
> >       normal           on
> >       always_sample    1
> >
> >       pretrace_start   0.08
> >       pretrace_end     0.02
> >
> >
> >     save_file "rad-save-load.rad"
> >   #else
> >     // load settings
> >     pretrace_start 1 pretrace_end 1
> >     load_file "rad-save-load.rad"
> >     error_bound 1  // it's important to specify the same value used to
> save
> > data
> >     recursion_limit 1  // also the same if specified
> >     always_sample off  // no more samples: specially useful with focal
> blur
> >   #end
> >  }
> >  #end
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 2 Oct 2004 06:40:32
Message: <415e85a0@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> a écrit dans le message de news:
cjgv55$apn$1@chho.imagico.de...
> I must say i like the old version better.  The wood pattern looks
> somewhat strange in this one.
Well I am trying to improve that
>
> Your comment says it is important to use the same error_bound when
> taking and reusing radiosity data - this is not necessarily the case
> (and to avoid taking too many additional samples in the final trace it
> makes sense to use a higher value there.
>
Thanks, I still feel dumb in front of radiosity parameters, btw it is not my
comment but Jaime's comment, as I copy/pasted his code and fiddled with
values.

Marc


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 2 Oct 2004 06:43:02
Message: <415e8636$1@news.povray.org>
"Andrew the Orchid" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
415c4bc4$1@news.povray.org...
> Dude, that is too cool...

Thank you

Marc


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 2 Oct 2004 06:47:05
Message: <415e8729$1@news.povray.org>
"Remy Closset" <rem### [at] tiscalifr> a écrit dans le message de news:
415c5748@news.povray.org...
> I think the same about the wooden tecxture. It will be better to say
> "mackintosh in the barn"
> The rest is very great as usually with your posts Marc.
>
> rémy
>

Thank You Remy, I'll change this fuc4!ng table, LOL

Marc


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: McIntosh in the Kitchen new version
Date: 2 Oct 2004 16:26:42
Message: <415f0f02@news.povray.org>
"LightBeam" <s.f### [at] tiscalifr> a écrit dans le message de news:
415bf059$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Nice version too.
Oh thanks, I missed your post
>It seem that you remove the bump and changed the
> texture of the table...

Yes indeed :)

Marc


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