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More media stuff..
This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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Mike Raiford avait énoncé :
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
Yes, I think it looks really like milk !!!!!
but the milk is a bit more "yellow" or "creamy" instead of gray
--
Dark Skull Software
http://www.darkskull.net
A+
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"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmail com> schreef in bericht
news:40e548c3@news.povray.org...
| More media stuff..
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| This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
Go on admit it. It's a photograph, right?
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"Marneus Calgar" <Nos### [at] pleasecom> schreef in bericht
news:mn.### [at] pleasecom...
| Mike Raiford avait énoncé :
| > More media stuff..
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| > This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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| Yes, I think it looks really like milk !!!!!
| but the milk is a bit more "yellow" or "creamy" instead of gray
Milk comes in different colours depending on the source and how it was
processed. Also the lightsource can affect the colour. I find the image very
convincing.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
>
> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
i think it looks like milk (got thursty). of course healthy milk has
more fat...
maybe glass could have another color or background color tricks a bit.
and a second soft light source should make it more realistic. it looks
slightly like a picture made in a bunker(?).
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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Haven't seen a glass of milk in several years, but it looks exactly how
I remember.
-Shay
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pretty good, though it looks a little tooo dark on the dark side.. have you
seen these: http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/imgs/milk.jpg from here:
http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/subsurf.html ?
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"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
40e548c3@news.povray.org...
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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Definitely, if you like 0% fat milk :)
Marc
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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> a écrit dans le message de news:
40e56a5c$1@news.povray.org...
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> Haven't seen a glass of milk in several years, but it looks exactly how
> I remember.
>
> -Shay
Do I guess right if I do your drinks are amber couloured? ;-)
Marc
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Mike Raiford nous apporta ses lumieres ainsi en ce 02/07/2004 07:36... :
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Is that a real render or a studio photo? Ho! That hint of banding in the
shadow, it must comes from an area light. Adding photons maping and
making the area light dencer with jitter will make it more realistic.
Alain
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Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
While I agree with others that it looks very good, I'd also say that there
is too much contrast in the milk itself. In my experience, even with such
an extreme lighting condition, milk doesn't get that bright *or* that dark.
Of course, this might be a deficiency in the lighting and not the milk
itself. I've run into the same problem, which is why I went with soda pop
instead of milk for my test renders :)
Good job otherwise, and I can't wait for the next version!
....Chambers
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Good.
I think it needs a higher definition area light and perhaps another light
source to give it that "real" edge.
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Josh wrote:
> Good.
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> I think it needs a higher definition area light and perhaps another light
> source to give it that "real" edge.
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it does. But, with media it seems like area lights slow rendering down
quite a log. I tried Jitter as others have suggested, and wasn't pleased
with the results.
I'm running another render, this time with some more scenery, I've
adjusted the lighting slightly. One significant change was doubling the
dimensions of the area light 4x4 samples, now.
And it's taking it's sweet time to render.
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marabou wrote:
> i think it looks like milk (got thursty). of course healthy milk has
> more fat...
> maybe glass could have another color or background color tricks a bit.
> and a second soft light source should make it more realistic. it looks
> slightly like a picture made in a bunker(?).
Believe it or not, there are two light sources, The second is quite
toned down from the first. Media and lighting seem to sometimes be a
very careful balancing act.
This is really one of the first times I have had the opportunity to play
with the media a bit more and actually get good results.
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> And it's taking it's sweet time to render.
Yep. However the result are worth it with PovRay. I did a very simple
scene, a pen on a counter top. final rendering 30x30 light + two other
no_shadow point lights as fillers. Sweeeeeeeet, left it running overnight
.... and half the next day.
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Ross wrote:
> pretty good, though it looks a little tooo dark on the dark side.. have you
> seen these: http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/imgs/milk.jpg from here:
> http://graphics.ucsd.edu/~henrik/images/subsurf.html ?
Actually, this was my inspiration. To me, the milk in those images seems
to have a bit of a yellow cast that I don't like. But -- that may be
closer to realism.
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Marc Jacquier wrote:
> Definitely, if you like 0% fat milk :)
Hehe, I don't drink milk, and my fiancee only drinks skim. I must have
forgotten what whole milk looked like. ;)
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Marc Jacquier wrote:
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> Do I guess right if I do your drinks are amber couloured? ;-)
>
180° off. I drink almost exclusively water and tea, but they're not as
much fun to render. hmmm. I guess tea *is* amber colored.
-Shay
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
Good enough for government work.
Regards,
John
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
I'd say so. You gotta do something about that glass, though, I'm getting
visions of someone slicing their lips off. ^^;
-Xplo
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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Almost, but it looks very good even now! The upper bright layer makes it
look like there is some "thinner" liquid on top of milk. Could you post
an example with not so hard/bright lighting?
A few questons:
1. Is this done with regular Pov 3.6?
2. How did you scale the milk itself? Is it slightly bigger or slightly
smaller than the container?
Severi S
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Severi Salminen wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
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>> More media stuff..
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>> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
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> Almost, but it looks very good even now! The upper bright layer makes it
> look like there is some "thinner" liquid on top of milk. Could you post
> an example with not so hard/bright lighting?
I'll post another later. I'll probably bump up the area lights and run
it overnight.
> A few questons:
>
> 1. Is this done with regular Pov 3.6?
Yes. The media is painfully slow, though.
> 2. How did you scale the milk itself? Is it slightly bigger or slightly
> smaller than the container?
I have always scaled the liquid slightly larger than the inner surface
of the container.
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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> a écrit dans le message de news:
40e593a1$1@news.povray.org...
> Marc Jacquier wrote:
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> >
> > Do I guess right if I do your drinks are amber couloured? ;-)
> >
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> 180° off. I drink almost exclusively water and tea, but they're not as
> much fun to render. hmmm. I guess tea *is* amber colored.
>
> -Shay
Argh missed!
Tea is more or less deep amber indeed but you know it wasn't what I had in
mind
Sorry :-)
Marc
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Hi Mike,
this looks similar to milk: I think it's too
transmissive, esp. the meniscus has a
strange transparent (or dark) part --
see attached picture.
Sputnik
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Frank "Sputnik" Rothfuß nous apporta ses lumieres ainsi en ce 02/07/2004
20:17... :
>Hi Mike,
>
>this looks similar to milk: I think it's too
>transmissive, esp. the meniscus has a
>strange transparent (or dark) part --
>see attached picture.
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> Sputnik
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Just looking at a glass of 2% milk. A little yellower and a hint of a
darker line like the one that you show. For me, it look very good as
skim milk witch is whiter.
Alain
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> More media stuff..
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> This time it's Milk. I think... Does it look convincingly like milk?
Yes, very milky, although it seems to have a bit of water on it... :)
--
Jaime
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