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And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
that,
I'm not sure what to do with this
Comments, suggestions?
Gail
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> wrote in message
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> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
>
Very nice! It is exactly as you describe.
Something that I always think about is the background. Perhaps this could
use a few more distant trees, barely visible in the fog to fill out the
background. Just a thought... It looks very good as it is.
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
Reminds me of certain Magic cards.. players will remember the swamps. :D
IMO it could use "more".. a few more trees in the background as someone
suggested, more plant life, more variety in the plant life. Maybe do
some research and get some ideas of what stuff you find in a swamp?
However, it looks pretty good as-is.
-Xplo
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I like it very much! Nice selection of colours (or lack of colours). Has the
right mood! Somehow it's simple - though I know it isn't simple. :o)
Thumbs up for photorealism. If this image isn't a slow-render, then maybe
you will render it with better anti-alias next time? Then the branches won't
look disjointed / broken.
Best Regards,
Hugo
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Rather impressive, that...
I'm listening to the Lord of the Rings soundtrack right now, and this
looks like it could have been part of that movie. Hardly looks CG at all.
Andrew @ home.
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
I love it!
It has a so sorrow mood
A few things I'd feel improvable: reeds are a bit too regular in size IMHO.
water waves should be smaller and shorter on swamps this size: wind needs
some distance to build such a wave length.
but I love the darkness of this scene: we don't know what hour it is. Day is
a long long gray laps of time... a scary night might fall at once.
Marc
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
Wow! Awesome. A little more contrast would add some interest.
--
Respectfully, "Leave it to the coward to make a religion
Dan P of his cowardice by preaching humility."
- George Bernard Shaw
http://<broken link>
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
>
> Gail
Somebody else mentioned Lord of the Rings, but I know which part this is
from: it's when Frodo, Sam and Gollum are passing over the swamp, and
floating below the water's surface are ghastly apparitions of the long
deceased. Their pale faces staring blankly up to the surface.... I've
been thinking for some time the idea must be rendered in POV somehow.
Maybe that's what the scene needs.... a few corpses :)
-Sam Benge
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> wrote in message
news:40a65228@news.povray.org...
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
Beautiful! As one that's fascinated by swamps, this is one of the best
representations I've seen. The only comment, and purely my own, a thin
ground haze, not enough to obscure the horizon, but to make the distant
objects "ghosted".
Swamps are places of incredible life, rather than areas of decay.
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> schreef in bericht
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> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
>
So many comments already, that I am afraid to repeat. Great image with
excellent atmosphere. In the far background I would place the silhouette of
a forest. Swamps are often restricted in size (at least the deep parts), and
surrounded by forested highs. A little ground fog, also. A lone bird
(falcon) in the sky could increase dramatic effect. A lizard? This looks
like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.
The scene reminds me of very similar sites in the northern Netherlands where
I lived for a time. In winter, they had this same strangely forlorn look.
Well done!
Thomas
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"Hugo Asm" <hua### [at] post3 tele dk> wrote in message
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> I like it very much! Nice selection of colours (or lack of colours). Has
the
> right mood! Somehow it's simple - though I know it isn't simple. :o)
That's what I was going for, simple but interesting
> Thumbs up for photorealism. If this image isn't a slow-render, then maybe
> you will render it with better anti-alias next time? Then the branches
won't
> look disjointed / broken.
>
That's +AM2 +R3 +A0.1 for a 5 hour render. Next time I'll just render it
double
size and let psp resize sort things out.
Gail
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"Xplo Eristotle" <xpl### [at] infomagic net> wrote in message
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> Reminds me of certain Magic cards.. players will remember the swamps. :D
It's inspired by one of the earlier swamp cards. I never played, but one of
my
friends did
Gail
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"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoo fr> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 40a65228@news.povray.org...
> > And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> >
> I love it!
> It has a so sorrow mood
> A few things I'd feel improvable: reeds are a bit too regular in size
IMHO.
> water waves should be smaller and shorter on swamps this size: wind needs
> some distance to build such a wave length.
Thanks, I'll adjust some of the scales.
> but I love the darkness of this scene: we don't know what hour it is. Day
is
> a long long gray laps of time... a scary night might fall at once.
It's actually midday, not that you'd know it by the light. Time has very
little
meaning here. Little changes from one day to the next
Gail
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"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmail com> wrote in message
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> Somebody else mentioned Lord of the Rings, but I know which part this is
> from: it's when Frodo, Sam and Gollum are passing over the swamp, and
> floating below the water's surface are ghastly apparitions of the long
> deceased. Their pale faces staring blankly up to the surface....
It wasn't based on the LotR movie, but now that I think back to the movie,
it's
ver similar
> I've been thinking for some time the idea must be rendered in POV somehow.
I've got a scene in mind based on a similar idea. An enchanted lake in a
faerie
forest. Beneath the surface sleep the heros of days gone by, waiting for the
time they are needed again.
> Maybe that's what the scene needs.... a few corpses :)
Maybe, maybe not...
Gail
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"GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobal net> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> wrote in message
> news:40a65228@news.povray.org...
> > And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> >
> > I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
> than
> > that,
> > I'm not sure what to do with this
> >
> > Comments, suggestions?
>
> Beautiful! As one that's fascinated by swamps, this is one of the best
> representations I've seen. The only comment, and purely my own, a thin
> ground haze, not enough to obscure the horizon, but to make the distant
> objects "ghosted".
There's fog already, just nothing far enough away to be 'ghosted'
I'm considering another layer of fog, very turbulent and very close to the
ground
Gail
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nl net> wrote in message
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>
> So many comments already, that I am afraid to repeat. Great image with
> excellent atmosphere. In the far background I would place the silhouette
of
> a forest. Swamps are often restricted in size (at least the deep parts),
and
> surrounded by forested highs.
The distant background definatly needs work
> A little ground fog, also. A lone bird
> (falcon) in the sky could increase dramatic effect.
Oohhh, I like that.
> A lizard? This looks
> like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.
Never let reality get in the way of a good picture *grin*
I certainly didn't intend this as a cold swamp.
Gail
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> It's actually midday, not that you'd know it by the light. Time has very
> little
> meaning here. Little changes from one day to the next
>
Yes monotony ... as in Sqornshellous Zeta marshes
If you didn't do yet, read chapter 7 of Douglas Adams' "Life, Universe and
Everything", do it (and read the whole 5 novels) :-)
May be missing a mattress called "Zem" and a paranoïd androïd called
"Marvin"
Marc
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> schreef in bericht
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>
> > A lizard? This looks
> > like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.
>
> Never let reality get in the way of a good picture *grin*
> I certainly didn't intend this as a cold swamp.
>
You are perfectly right! A lizard it should be then!
Thomas
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woa! Neat! How did you make the trees?
--
to all the companies who wait until a large user base becomes
dependant on their freeware, then shafting said happy campers with
mandatory payment for continued usage. I spit on your grave.
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"povray" <pov### [at] bestweb net almost> wrote in message
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> woa! Neat! How did you make the trees?
>
XFrog
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
Very strong image. Really one of your best imo. I would caution you to
be careful about adding animal life. It has some good possibilities to
do so but to do so would take the picture down a narrative path when
there is a lot to be appreciated about it in a design sense. The
ambivalent narrative meaning is not necessarily a bad thing. And some
of the things I already like about the picture include: The low
saturatioin of even monochrome suggesting either psychological dispair
or ecological disaster, the subtly expressive effect of the water
surface, the way the eye is teased by the minute information available
along the horizon line, the strangeness of the non-bifurcated branch in
the forground and how it grazes the the water surface. I think much of
the picture's appeal comes from its minimalism. Perhaps that is a
direction you could explore.
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nl net> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> schreef in bericht
> news:40a73d30@news.povray.org...
> >
> > > A lizard? This looks
> > > like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.
> >
> > Never let reality get in the way of a good picture *grin*
> > I certainly didn't intend this as a cold swamp.
> >
> You are perfectly right! A lizard it should be then!
Well, I'll try one and see how it looks. I actually didn't even thing about
the
weather.
Sometimes I need a good klap of common sense.
Gail
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Very, very impressive. Cheers.
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msn com> schreef in bericht
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> Very strong image. Really one of your best imo. I would caution you to
> be careful about adding animal life. It has some good possibilities to
> do so but to do so would take the picture down a narrative path when
> there is a lot to be appreciated about it in a design sense. The
> ambivalent narrative meaning is not necessarily a bad thing. And some
> of the things I already like about the picture include: The low
> saturatioin of even monochrome suggesting either psychological dispair
> or ecological disaster, the subtly expressive effect of the water
> surface, the way the eye is teased by the minute information available
> along the horizon line, the strangeness of the non-bifurcated branch in
> the forground and how it grazes the the water surface. I think much of
> the picture's appeal comes from its minimalism. Perhaps that is a
> direction you could explore.
Putting things back in perspective! Excellent suggestion! I agree with that!
Thomas
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On Sat, 15 May 2004 19:22:38 +0200, Gail Shaw <gsh### [at] sentechsa com> wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
> than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
>
I love it; to me there's a sense of stillness about it*, IMHO adding a
lizard would take that away; maybe making the branch into a full blown
fallen-over dead tree would add more to the foreground? I look forward to
seeing the version with the ground fog in any case.
--
Phil Cook
*I know everyone's been talking about LOTR but I actually thought of the
Troll Marsh in one of RA Salvatore's Drizzt books when I first saw it,
can't remember which book though.
--
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Looks like Delaware.
Right along I-95 heading south from Wilmington, on the right, about 7PM
tonight.
Unlikely to find a lizard, though. Big ol' frogs going chuggarum, and
thousands of spring peepers, these little frogs that fill the evenings
with a peeping chorus.
You do great water! A while back you posted some code at my request and
it's been very helpful.
Thanks for the great work.
Bill
Gail Shaw wrote:
>And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
>I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
>that,
>I'm not sure what to do with this
>
>Comments, suggestions?
>
>Gail
>--
>*************************************************************************
>* gsh### [at] sentechsa com * If one is going to lose one's mind, *
>* http://gail.rucus.net/ * one might as well savor the experience *
>*************************************************************************
>* This is how the world ends. Swallowed in fire, but not in darkness *
>*************************************************************************
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