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From: Tek
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:34:11
Message: <404ba363$3@news.povray.org>
"Dan P" <dan### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> "Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
> news:404aeda3@news.povray.org...
> > Tek wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Woah that is really nice. Superb concept brilliantly executed, I
> > > particularly like the signs :)
> > >
> >
> > I'm very flattered.
> > I'm still just a newbie but I *love* doing this stuff :-)
>
> Oh man, if you're a newbie I gotta go buy a lot of popcorn and beer because
> what you're gonna do next is gonna be ground-breaking!!!

I second that!

Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to make this scene (creation time
not render time). It looks like a lot of work's gone into it.

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Tek
www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:45:37
Message: <404ba611@news.povray.org>
Dan P wrote:

> "Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
> news:404aeda3@news.povray.org...
>> Tek wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Woah that is really nice. Superb concept brilliantly executed, I
>> > particularly like the signs :)
>> >
>>
>> I'm very flattered.
>> I'm still just a newbie but I *love* doing this stuff :-)
> 
> Oh man, if you're a newbie I gotta go buy a lot of popcorn and beer
> because what you're gonna do next is gonna be ground-breaking!!!

the scene actually says "radiosity {}" because I don't know any
better - I'd consider that newbie :-)

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Bill Hails


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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:49:08
Message: <pan.2004.03.07.22.50.31.706075@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 06:22:50 +0000, Bill Hails wrote:

> Here's that CD cover I've been working on.
> 
> They want it at 300 dpi so the actual render was
> twice this size (1536x1536) making it 13cm square
> (CD covers are 12cm square but the publishers wanted
> 1cm extra for trimming.)
> 
> A spline function controls the "guitarness"/"trackness"
> for each point along the neck/track.

One suggestion: The frets on a guitar get furthur apart as you go up the
neck.


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:59:22
Message: <404ba949@news.povray.org>
Tyler Eaves wrote:

> One suggestion: The frets on a guitar get furthur apart as you go up the
> neck.

but sleepers stay the same distance apart :-), the result
is a compromise/average:

        #local C = StringLength / 96;
        #local N = NumFrets;

        #declare NextFret = function(n, l) {
            (n * (l - C) + (N - n) * (l * (23/24))) / N
        }

and in the loop:

        #local I = 0;
        #local Pos = StringLength;
        #while (I < NumFrets)
            #local Pos = NextFret(I, Pos);
            ...

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Bill Hails


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:06:29
Message: <404baaf5$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
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> the scene actually says "radiosity {}" because I don't know any
> better - I'd consider that newbie :-)

Well I only use the radiosity settings in rad_def.inc, so I'm not much better!
:)

Although I fear I've been doing this too long to be a newbie...

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Tek
www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:08:37
Message: <404bab75@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> Bill Hails wrote:
>> Here's that CD cover I've been working on.
> 
> Most awesome. A bit hard to read the left side of the sign, but the
> icicles are very nice.

Thanks, the basic layout was fixed well in advance, which constrained
things somewhat.

> I'd certainly pick up this cover in the store and check it out. :-)
> 
> I sometimes wish there was a place you could go to buy (say) posters of
> CD covers.
> 

I'll talk to the band before posting a link to a higher res version,
but it'll still only render at cd-cover size at 300dpi :-)

-- 
Bill Hails


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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:09:59
Message: <pan.2004.03.07.23.11.22.537882@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:00:09 +0000, Bill Hails wrote:

> Tyler Eaves wrote:
> 
>> One suggestion: The frets on a guitar get furthur apart as you go up the
>> neck.
> 
> but sleepers stay the same distance apart :-), the result
> is a compromise/average:
> 
>         #local C = StringLength / 96;
>         #local N = NumFrets;
> 
>         #declare NextFret = function(n, l) {
>             (n * (l - C) + (N - n) * (l * (23/24))) / N
>         }
> 
> and in the loop:
> 
>         #local I = 0;
>         #local Pos = StringLength;
>         #while (I < NumFrets)
>             #local Pos = NextFret(I, Pos);
>             ...

Hrrm, most be the perspective de-emphasizing it. My current project is
actually related. It's a model of an 1890's Baldwin locomotive. I happened
to stumple across some plans, and while I may not model it prefectly (Two
reasons: One, the plans are are a rather low-res JPEG, and 2: They're
missing lots of the smaller details), I am shooting to get all the major
proportions and measurements within an inch or 4.


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:16:33
Message: <404bad51@news.povray.org>
Tek wrote:

> Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to make this scene
> (creation time not render time). It looks like a lot of work's gone into
> it.
> 

Pretty much flat out evenings and weekends (I have a day job) since
just after christmas, so about 2 months.

-- 
Bill Hails


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 19:07:05
Message: <404bb929@news.povray.org>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
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> "Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
> news:404ba611@news.povray.org...
> > the scene actually says "radiosity {}" because I don't know any
> > better - I'd consider that newbie :-)
>
> Well I only use the radiosity settings in rad_def.inc, so I'm not much
better!
> :)
>
> Although I fear I've been doing this too long to be a newbie...

Radiosity still boggles my mind too. And, technicaly, I've been using
POV-Ray for almost 10 years! :-) I just put it in through the interface and
turn on/off the media and normal interaction thing depending on the scene. I
can't say what half those settings do.


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: CD Cover (final?)
Date: 7 Mar 2004 19:07:37
Message: <404bb949$1@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:404ba3a4$1@news.povray.org...
> Bill Hails wrote:
> > Here's that CD cover I've been working on.
>
> Most awesome. A bit hard to read the left side of the sign, but the
> icicles are very nice.
>
> I'd certainly pick up this cover in the store and check it out. :-)
>
> I sometimes wish there was a place you could go to buy (say) posters of
> CD covers.

This would be a great poster to see on zazzle.com!


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