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Hi All
Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
background!
The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
Comments as usual gratefully received.
Mick
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrove fsnetcouk> a écrit dans le message de
news: 401c04e1@news.povray.org...
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
WOOOWW!!! 8-)
Marc
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
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> The rocks are Iso surfaces
Well that answers one question I had.
As a first reaction, the flowers don't bother me at all but it's your
picture. You have to make it as real as you need it to be. That whole
recreating-the-density of-experience thing again. The sense of rocks
emerging from turf is remarkable, and the sense of variety in the flora
is convincing. Beautiful job on the isosurface rocks. I remember when
you announced your intention to pursue that. It's notable to me that
you insisted on the particularity of the type of rock. It announces
your intent to get a high degree of verisimilitude but also they might
not conform to everyone's general idea of rockiness. Their rich brown
color is beautiful and the strong undershadow they create in the
composition is pleasing.
Jim
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Well I've bee n on these groups all day and I really intended to give
you a quick response then get some damned work done myself. But I
didn't want to simply gush. But the picture stopped me before I could
log out. It really is a remarkable achievement, Mick. It's not just
about isosurface rocks. The various components resonate with each
other. Lighting, color harmony, textures and tactility. Ommmm!
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In article <401c04e1@news.povray.org>,
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote:
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
Can Xfrog export to POV ?
However, it is a nice work !
Noé
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Pour m'écrire un mail, veuillez retirer PASDEPUB de mon adresse ;)
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WOW!! Looks GREAT and colourful! I'm very impressed.
Just the background you say -- for what?
Maybe you could give us some details about lighting technique and
render-time. I would be very interested. The result is not photo-realistic
but it's very beautiful and has an "artistic" feel. It doesn't lack anything
in that regard.
Regards,
Hugo
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"Noé Falzon" <noe### [at] tiscalifr> a écrit dans le message de
news:noe.falzonPASDEPUB-3E03E4.23311331012004@news.povray.org...
> Can Xfrog export to POV ?
http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/francais/xfrog.htm
and for the english readers :
http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/xfrog.htm
--
ZeSly
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zesly/
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I'd just like to add that it's breath taking. This is something I'd like to
see hanging on my wall... Will you make a poster?
Regards,
Hugo
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Well, it's really impressive.
The color seem a bit strange, too vivid I guess.
And the grass a bit too sharp, but it's overall very real-like.
I'm just trying to do a few remarks, but well, this scene really rocks
!!!! :-)
JC
Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
>
> Mick
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
I like this image very much Mick.
I'm impressed by your different isosurface rocks
and the moods that you manage show in your images.
Btw.: Is this place anywere close to where we went
when you arranged the UK gathereing ?
Anyway - This image makes me want to go photo-
graphing in the peak district again !
Tor Olav
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
Great scene, Mick!
The plant placement looks very good although it seems some grass is
growing straight out of solid rock...
The colors look very nice but the lighting of the clouds seem to come
from a completely different direction than that of the ground.
Christoph
--
POV-Ray tutorials, include files, Sim-POV,
HCR-Edit and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 11 Jan. 2004 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______
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I'm planning to, one of the reasons this took so long to do
is that I wanted to make sure it held up when rendered at a large size
Mick
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Thanks Tor
Yes Ramshaw rocks are where the winking man is, we drove past them!
Mick
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Hi Chris
> Great scene, Mick!
Thanks
> The plant placement looks very good although it seems some grass is
> growing straight out of solid rock...
Always a problem - but writing a collison routine would be too hard for me.
> The colors look very nice but the lighting of the clouds seem to come
> from a completely different direction than that of the ground.
Well spotted :-) I agonised over this but in the end decided I wanted the
light on the rocks.
Mick
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>>The colors look very nice but the lighting of the clouds seem to come
>>from a completely different direction than that of the ground.
>
> Well spotted :-) I agonised over this but in the end decided I wanted the
> light on the rocks.
My first impression was also that: the lighting is unfortunately
not consistent with the sunset sky (so late evening, sun on the bottom-
left corner outside the image) and the vertical light on the foreground
(so around noon) which should therefore be made darker, more reddish,
and much less contrasted.
Lighting is at least as important as the amazing amount of details
in your scene to make it look "real" -- if you eventually seek for photo-
reality. All the rest is damn good :-)
- NC
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I'm not really bothered about photo reality - sometimes you just cannot say
what you need to say and be totally realistic. For me the mood, atmosphere,
whatever you wish to call it, is more important. The lighting though not
real is, believe me, important to make the picture work. I'll take any flack
you wish to throw at me on that - as long as people react to the
mood/feeling of the picture I'm happy.
"Nicolas Calimet" <pov### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:401d1a59$1@news.povray.org...
> >>The colors look very nice but the lighting of the clouds seem to come
> >>from a completely different direction than that of the ground.
> >
> > Well spotted :-) I agonised over this but in the end decided I wanted
the
> > light on the rocks.
>
> My first impression was also that: the lighting is unfortunately
> not consistent with the sunset sky (so late evening, sun on the bottom-
> left corner outside the image) and the vertical light on the foreground
> (so around noon) which should therefore be made darker, more reddish,
> and much less contrasted.
> Lighting is at least as important as the amazing amount of details
> in your scene to make it look "real" -- if you eventually seek for photo-
> reality. All the rest is damn good :-)
>
> - NC
>
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> I'll take any flack
> you wish to throw at me on that - as long as people react to the
> mood/feeling of the picture I'm happy.
I agree with you: afterall it's your creation. It doesn't have to
look real. But the "subject" is so well done (although there is no real
subject in your image) that it would maybe deserve at least one version
where you match both foreground and background lighting.
For now your efforts result in something like a fake compositing.
Sadly this destroys my good mood about this image...
Only my 2 cents of course,
- NC
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Wow - very nice. Reminds me of a place in my local area my parents used to
take me when I was a kid - known as Toads Mouth - so called because the rock
looks like a toad. Heres the only (and not very good) picture on the whole
of the internet I can find
http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?cat=new&pictureRef=8819
jim
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in news:401ce97e$1
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> I'm planning to,
>
>
My first thought was that I hoped you would. Enchanting work. Now I have
another hike to add to the list :D
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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This is amazing. Really great!
Jim
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:401c04e1@news.povray.org...
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
>
> Mick
>
>
>
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"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
news:Xns94828A34D7896tomatimporg@203.29.75.35...
> "Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in
news:401ce97e$1
> @news.povray.org:
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> > I'm planning to,
> >
> >
>
> My first thought was that I hoped you would. Enchanting work. Now
I have
> another hike to add to the list :D
Enchanting work indeed.
You call it a 'hike'? I call it a 'Mountain' (to climb)! ;)
~Steve~
> Tom
> _________________________________
> The Internet Movie Project
> http://www.imp.org/
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:401c04e1@news.povray.org...
VERY pleasing to the eye... Nice, as per usual... :)
~Steve~
> Mick
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:401d5870@news.povray.org:
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> You call it a 'hike'? I call it a 'Mountain' (to climb)! ;)
>
>
> ~Steve~
>
If am not using ropes and pitons then it is a hike :)
--
Tom
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http://www.imp.org/
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"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:401d5870@news.povray.org:
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> >
> > You call it a 'hike'? I call it a 'Mountain' (to climb)! ;)
>
> If am not using ropes and pitons then it is a hike :)
Heh, ok, I'll go for that... :)
~Steve~
>
>
> --
> Tom
> _________________________________
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> http://www.imp.org/
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James Taylor wrote:
> Wow - very nice. Reminds me of a place in my local area my parents used to
> take me when I was a kid - known as Toads Mouth - so called because the rock
> looks like a toad. Heres the only (and not very good) picture on the whole
> of the internet I can find
> http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?cat=new&pictureRef=8819
>
> jim
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>
Thanks for that, very helpful.
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Just up the road from me!
"James Taylor" <jim### [at] blueyondercouk> wrote in message
news:401d4304$1@news.povray.org...
> Wow - very nice. Reminds me of a place in my local area my parents used to
> take me when I was a kid - known as Toads Mouth - so called because the
rock
> looks like a toad. Heres the only (and not very good) picture on the
whole
> of the internet I can find
> http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?cat=new&pictureRef=8819
>
> jim
>
>
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This is amazing! I'm not sure how you did the rocks like that with
iso-surfaces, which makes me even more impressed.
Stunning!
--
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:401c04e1@news.povray.org...
> Hi All
>
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
>
> Mick
>
>
>
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> Thanks Tor
>
> Yes Ramshaw rocks are where the winking man is, we drove past them!
Yes, I remember that you showed us a winking man.
Yesterday I scanned some of the images that I shot at the
most fascinating place you showed us. They are here:
http://home.online.no/~t-o-k/PeekDistrict/
But my memory fails me a little:
Is the winking man amongst these rocks ?
(If anyone is interested I can scan and upload some more
of the images on my films.)
Tor Olav
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote
> Based on the Roaches and Ranshaw rocks in Staffordshire, Just the
> background!
>
> The rocks are Iso surfaces and the flowers XFrog
>
> Comments as usual gratefully received.
Very impressive. Only thing that bothers me is the rock almost touching the
left border. My eyes need to see more on the left. Also I am not too sure
about the highlight on the left part of the sky, it dosn't seem to go that
well with the shadow direction. In fact, if you put some distant field
and/or hills on the left with patches of cloud shadows and light it would be
perfect.
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in news:401e6475$1@news.povray.org Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> Is the winking man amongst these rocks ?
>
If I remeber well this is the rockformation that also had the winking man.
We where there on the day we also bought the Wallice and Grommit cheese.
Do you also have the pictures where Mick did his spiderman trick and
climbed a vertical rock wall. It was the same day we photographed the cows
for Gilles. For some reason I can't find my pictures.
Ingo
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:401c04e1@news.povray.org...
You've got insane chops, Mick. Is this another book cover?
What I find really incredible about all of your pictures is that you are
able to display a wide variety of landscapes and give each a similar
feel. From what I have heard of painters, financial limitations as well
as limitations on the compatibility of different pigments and
consistencies require the painters limiting themselves to a pallet of
carefully selected colors. The absence of these limitations in CG along
with the ease with which lighting and textures can be copied has I think
diminished the consideration given to these aspects.
-Shay
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Hi Tor
Yes those are the rocks. I'm suprised how green your photos are. The rock is
very red/brown and though Ranshaw does have a lot of green lichen, I never
thought is was quite so overpowering.
Mick
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I'm into sunsets at the moment :-)
I love the mountains, open spaces and the sea. They mean more to me than
almost any other aspect of my life (only my wife,children art mean more)
Strangely I cannot make a convincing interior scene.....
Mick
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go on the Jim, you've got me intrigued...
jim
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> Just up the road from me!
Really? I somehow had the impression you lived down south somewhere - from
your images I'd guessed at the Cottswolds maybe.
jim
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Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> Hi Tor
>
> Yes those are the rocks. I'm suprised how green your photos are. The rock is
> very red/brown and though Ranshaw does have a lot of green lichen, I never
> thought is was quite so overpowering.
You are probably right about this.
I think that I have a problem with my scanning software.
First: These photos were shot on Fuji Velvia slides film,
which gives quite saturated colors.
Second: I do not have a color-calibrated monitor.
(It's a Fujitsu x191, which came with a color profile.
But when I use this color profile, the colors seems
bad in all programs. I'm not able find out if it is
Windows itself or the image editor programs that are
supposed to read this color profile and apply
corrections according to it.)
Third: I don't think that have an image editor program
that are able to read the embedded color profile for my
scanner that the Nikon scanning software embeds into the
TIF-file. (I'm using Photoshop LE)
Fourth: When viewing the photos in Internet Explorer, the
colors looks different than in PS LE.
So I find this color problem quite difficult to solve.
I should probably buy a full version of Photoshop (that's
expensive !) or wait for the Gimp v2 for Linux.
And I would also need to buy monitor calibration tools
(hardware). - That's expensive too !
If I could afford to go all the way, I would buy some
Kodak reference slides and software to build a color
profile for my specific scanner.
(But then; if people just used Internet Explorer to watch
my images, I wouldn't have come much further.)
In order to try to get a more correct result I have done
a little experiment:
I set my scanner to use a special scanning mode;
ROC (Reconstruction Of Color), which is meant for old
and/or damaged films (e.g. with strong color tints).
If the colors on a film is ok, then this mode usually
gives odd colors. (But sometimes it "fixes" colors in a
wonderful way.)
The result can be seen in the file Image2_ROC.jpg
When I compare this to the slide (lying on a good light
table), the colors look too bleak and too brownish.
When I now study the Image2.jpg image, that I uploaded
first, I see that it has too high contrast and that it
is a bit more green than the slide.
As a last attempt to get more correct colors I tried
to blend together two images of the same slide. (One
with ROC on and another with ROC off.)
The result in the file Image2_mix.jpg is my best shot
so far at getting colors that are close to those in
the slide.
Now Mick: How does this image compare to your memory
of the rocks ?
Tor Olav
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ingo wrote:
> in news:401e6475$1@news.povray.org Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
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>
>>Is the winking man amongst these rocks ?
>>
>
>
> If I remeber well this is the rockformation that also had the winking man.
> We where there on the day we also bought the Wallice and Grommit cheese.
:)
That Wensleydale cheese looked better than it tasted.
(IIRC this was the first Wensleydale cheese I ever tasted, so
maybe I just don't like Wensleydale cheese.) - But the other
cheeses that I bought were wery tasty !
> Do you also have the pictures where Mick did his spiderman trick and
> climbed a vertical rock wall. It was the same day we photographed the cows
> for Gilles. For some reason I can't find my pictures.
It's a pity you can't find your pictures Ingo.
I'll go through my slides and see if I can find "Spiderman Mick"
or some of Gilles' cows.
=)
Tor Olav
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James Taylor wrote:
> go on the Jim, you've got me intrigued...
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> jim
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>
Oh no big deal, it was just helpful to see a pic of the actual rocks
relative to the raytracing.
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:21:34 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen
<tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com> wrote:
> Second: I do not have a color-calibrated monitor.
> (It's a Fujitsu x191, which came with a color profile.
> But when I use this color profile, the colors seems
> bad in all programs. I'm not able find out if it is
> Windows itself or the image editor programs that are
> supposed to read this color profile and apply
> corrections according to it.)
I had a similar problem once. In my case it was caused by a faulty monitor
calibration file (.inf). The default one supplied with Windows was bad,
and PhotoShop would even tell me so. For me, the symptoms were very
obvious: any color-management-aware program would show what was supposed
to be clear white as a light yellow. The solution for me was to download a
new calibration file from the monitor manufacturer (in my case Adi), and
install that. I don't know about Fujitsu, but one would assume that they
also provide such things for download.
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Image2 is closest but still too cold - the grass gives it away - it's still
too green.
I'm on a course today but tomorrow I'll scan some photos I took and put
those up.
Mick
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Just north of Stoke on Trent - plaqce called Cheddleton. I'm about 11/2 hrs
away
Mick
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