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From: Apache
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 17:54:16
Message: <3f00b188@news.povray.org>
Yep. I can see the image at the
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/32269/ perfectly. My reader is
acting weird...


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 18:18:10
Message: <3f00b722$1@news.povray.org>
Good idea, it should be pretty easy to at least bend them a bit...

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Tek
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"Andrew Wilcox" <awi### [at] unpuzzledcom> wrote in message
news:3f00b0b0$1@news.povray.org...
> There's only one thing that bothers me about this picture.  It's been
bothering me since you first put them in, but I couldn't put
> my finger on why.  It's the little white flowers.  I finally figured out, it's
because they're flat, like a quarter.  It makes me
> feel like they are little flower shaped golf tees stuck into the ground,
rather than flowers growning out of it.  I know this is a
> little nit picky thing, but the little flowers distract me.
>
> Now, I think the flowers should be there, but I think they need a little bit
of a cup, and maybe a little petal rotation, like an
> airplane propeler.  Anything so I don't see discs on sticks.  Other than that,
the image is GREAT!
>
> Andrew Wilcox
>
>


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 19:55:13
Message: <3f00cde1$1@news.povray.org>
Andrew Wilcox wrote:
> Now, I think the flowers should be there, but I think they need a
> little bit of a cup, and maybe a little petal rotation, like an
> airplane propeler.  Anything so I don't see discs on sticks.  Other
> than that, the image is GREAT!

Damn - was just about to post the exact same thing!

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From: Martin Belair
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 21:09:21
Message: <Xns93AAD67B98F96badhabit07hotmaildot@204.213.191.226>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org:

> 
> All other comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome as always.
> 


Well, I have followed the evolution of this work since the first version. 
Never gave a comment. Now, I'll change that:

Perfect!

You're an artist. Your "Marvellous Julia" bring peace of mind. It's a 
wonderfull place to be. Calm and relax. To me it's perfect.

Thank you for sharing your work with us.

Ciao!

Mart


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 22:18:40
Message: <Xns93AAE2D76AE05tomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org:


> welcome then I'll pick my favourite :) My own suggestion is "a holiday
> with Julia". 
> 
>

I think you do not need any suggestions.  That title is perfect.  I love 
this image.


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Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 30 Jun 2003 22:21:10
Message: <3f00f016$1@news.povray.org>
I enjoyed following the evolution of this beautiful picture!

What about giving the clouds a less "brute" white and making
them a tiny little more transparent?

   Sputnik


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From: Chris Amshey
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 1 Jul 2003 01:25:02
Message: <web.3f011a148816855e61b99e900@news.povray.org>
1. I would have put a school of small fish rather than a few big fish; it's
uncommon to see big fish near the surface.

2. When I was up in Vermont this weekend, I spent a lot of time staring at
grassy
hills and thinking about Grassy Julia... grass grows straight up, regardless
of
the angle of the slope; however, I wouldn't change it... the subtle weird
grass is
part of the 'fantastic' element of the scene. (Here's hoping analyzing that
doesn't spoil it for anyone! ;))

3. I liked the distant background 'mainland' ...

4. I would call it 'Julia's Isle' or 'Julia's Escape' ...

and, finally, 5. Great image! Love it in all its incarnations! (some more
than
 others, but, I think, this one the most!)


--Chris


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From: JC (Exether)
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 1 Jul 2003 02:02:16
Message: <3F0123E4.7090900@spam.fr>
Superb !
I like the fishes, they are discrete and it leaves some details to be 
discovered.

JC


Tek wrote:
> I think I've done just about as much as I can on this image. Plus the new stills
> topic should be announced tomorrow, so I want to finish this and move on.
> 
> 
> I thought I'd do a quick review of some of the good ideas that weren't used:
> 
> - People/robots, deckchair, boats and any other man-made presence - the idea
> with these things was that this is a nice place to chill out and relax, so to
> show this someone should be in the scene doing just that, or implied by the
> presence of objects associated with that (an empty deck chair, boat, etc.). Now
> the image is at this stage I feel the objects and scene serve a more immediate
> purpose, it is not a nice place to -be-, it's a nice place to -see-! I don't
> want any human occupation in the scene because you are the human who comes here
> to enjoy it. If I put someone in the picture it will only make the viewer
> jealous! Well, that's pretentious but I think it works better like this.
> 
> - 3D media clouds - I've stayed with the 2D clouds because I like their ethereal
> apearance and media clouds rarely look as soft as this, plus the render time
> would become much worse with media.
> 
> - The empty right side of the image, too much sky etc. - Obviously these things
> are a matter of opinion and I know some people like the way this shot is laid
> out and others prefer the earlier versions. I could go into lengthy details bout
> why I think it works like this, but I don't see much point, you will either like
> it or not and frankly I'd be very worried if everyone agreed about this! So I'll
> just say this layout feels right to me, every tweak I made in this direction
> improved the feeling I got from it, and every time I tried something else it got
> worse.
> 
> 
> Just a couple of specific questions:
> - What do you think of the fish, does the water surface distort them too much or
> do they look right?
> - What should I call this picture? "grassy julia" was just a description of what
> I first created, but then maybe I should keep that title since that's what
> people here know it as. All suggestions welcome then I'll pick my favourite :)
> My own suggestion is "a holiday with Julia".
> 
> All other comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome as always.
> 
> 
> Oh, and finally, in case I forget to say this later: Many thanks to everyone who
> left comments on the earlier wips, you've helped to create one of my best images
> ever.
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
> 
> 
>


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 1 Jul 2003 13:07:20
Message: <3f01bfc8$1@news.povray.org>
Hi!
Great Image! This will replace Gilles Trans "Family" Image as my 
background (it has a nice summer feeling and "Family" makes me a little 
claustrophobic now)

Tek wrote:
> My own suggestion is "a holiday with Julia".
I like that one.

Florian


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From: JWV
Subject: Re: Grassy Julia v6 - Final?
Date: 1 Jul 2003 16:49:04
Message: <3f01f3c0@news.povray.org>
The image looks great, especialy the flock of birds in the distance, it
seems to have some motion in it, like it should have.

two points of critiscism:

- The flowers need some work, since they will be annoyingly simple when
rendered at Zazzle resolution.

- i didn't recognise the fish due to the refraction of the water, maybe you
should use smaller fish.

The title is very good, it suits the image.

JWV





"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
news:3f00a1b2@news.povray.org...
> I think I've done just about as much as I can on this image. Plus the new
stills
> topic should be announced tomorrow, so I want to finish this and move on.
>
>
> I thought I'd do a quick review of some of the good ideas that weren't
used:
>
> - People/robots, deckchair, boats and any other man-made presence - the
idea
> with these things was that this is a nice place to chill out and relax, so
to
> show this someone should be in the scene doing just that, or implied by
the
> presence of objects associated with that (an empty deck chair, boat,
etc.). Now
> the image is at this stage I feel the objects and scene serve a more
immediate
> purpose, it is not a nice place to -be-, it's a nice place to -see-! I
don't
> want any human occupation in the scene because you are the human who comes
here
> to enjoy it. If I put someone in the picture it will only make the viewer
> jealous! Well, that's pretentious but I think it works better like this.
>
> - 3D media clouds - I've stayed with the 2D clouds because I like their
ethereal
> apearance and media clouds rarely look as soft as this, plus the render
time
> would become much worse with media.
>
> - The empty right side of the image, too much sky etc. - Obviously these
things
> are a matter of opinion and I know some people like the way this shot is
laid
> out and others prefer the earlier versions. I could go into lengthy
details bout
> why I think it works like this, but I don't see much point, you will
either like
> it or not and frankly I'd be very worried if everyone agreed about this!
So I'll
> just say this layout feels right to me, every tweak I made in this
direction
> improved the feeling I got from it, and every time I tried something else
it got
> worse.
>
>
> Just a couple of specific questions:
> - What do you think of the fish, does the water surface distort them too
much or
> do they look right?
> - What should I call this picture? "grassy julia" was just a description
of what
> I first created, but then maybe I should keep that title since that's what
> people here know it as. All suggestions welcome then I'll pick my
favourite :)
> My own suggestion is "a holiday with Julia".
>
> All other comments, criticisms, and suggestions are welcome as always.
>
>
> Oh, and finally, in case I forget to say this later: Many thanks to
everyone who
> left comments on the earlier wips, you've helped to create one of my best
images
> ever.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
>
>
>


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