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From: Apache
Subject: blub
Date: 2 Dec 2002 20:34:44
Message: <3dec0a34@news.povray.org>
Check the "Time For Trace" and "Total Time"....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pixels:          199252   Samples:          372532   Smpls/Pxl: 1.87
Rays:         493256231   Saved:          26430133   Max Level: 10/10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ray->Shape Intersection          Tests       Succeeded  Percentage
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CSG Intersection             140936196        85762527     60.85
CSG Merge                     61704519        41928500     67.95
Disc                                 1               0      0.00
Plane                       1794233192       895287755     49.90
Sphere                       281872392       131936536     46.81
Bounding Box                2922843051       162489824      5.56
Light Buffer                  42097404        27094587     64.36
Vista Buffer                   2672734         2164786     81.00
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Calls to Noise:           47930245   Calls to DNoise:             10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shadow Ray Tests:        447038096   Succeeded:             21510769
Reflected Rays:           29856129   Total Internal:             122
Refracted Rays:           29856007
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity samples calculated:     548493 (0.27 percent)
Radiosity samples reused:      206414746
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smallest Alloc:                 25 bytes   Largest:           100848
Peak memory used:        109479381 bytes
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
    Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU time used: kernel 106.92 seconds, user 41182.29 seconds, total 41289.21
seconds
Render averaged 4.45 PPS over 183750 pixels

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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 2 Dec 2002 23:46:45
Message: <3dec3735@news.povray.org>
I am aware you didn't ask for suggestions... but anyway... I liked very much
the radiosity-ness of the render, however, there's something strange with
the apearance of the bubbles... I think they look not glossy enough and I
get the impression that they are not hollow. You know what I mean?

The iridiscence looks awesome, I think.

Fernando.


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 3 Dec 2002 02:18:56
Message: <3dec5ae0$1@news.povray.org>
Apache <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:3dec0a34@news.povray.org...
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wow that's a wierd time difference. Do you think you could extend that error,
and make it so a 14 hour trace only takes a few minutes? ;)

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 3 Dec 2002 02:59:24
Message: <3dec645c$1@news.povray.org>
I know exactly what you mean. But I think I'll leave the situation this
way....

Apache


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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 3 Dec 2002 14:08:07
Message: <Xns92D9CC4BC49F9raf256com@204.213.191.226>
"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in 
news:3dec0a34@news.povray.org

> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)

How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?

-- 
#macro g(U,V)(.4*abs(sin(9*sqrt(pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))))*pow(1-min(1,(sqrt(
pow(x-U,2)+pow(y-V,2))*.3)),2)+.9)#end#macro p(c)#if(c>1)#local l=mod(c,100
);g(2*div(l,10)-8,2*mod(l,10)-8)*p(div(c,100))#else 1#end#end light_source{
y 2}sphere{z*20 9pigment{function{p(26252423)*p(36455644)*p(66656463)}}}//M


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 4 Dec 2002 09:25:05
Message: <web.3dee0f9aee99c354b29393de0@news.povray.org>
Rafal 'Raf256' Maj wrote:
>"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
>news:3dec0a34[at]news.povray.org
>
>> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>
>How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?
>
I'm glad I'm not the only one getting weird time estimates. Until now I
assumed it was because there was something broken in my compile.
Now I know the true reason - I'm moving at 96.657463% of c!
For my next trick I will send a copy of a few other weird stats files
yesterday. ;-)

John
--

Run Fast
Run Free
Run Linux


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 4 Dec 2002 12:04:35
Message: <3dee35a3@news.povray.org>
Yesterday? Are you getting negative values in POV-Ray because your speed > c
?


"Doctor John" <jgu### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
news:web.3dee0f9aee99c354b29393de0@news.povray.org...
> Rafal 'Raf256' Maj wrote:
> >"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
> >news:3dec0a34[at]news.povray.org
> >
> >> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
> >>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
> >
> >How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?
> >
> I'm glad I'm not the only one getting weird time estimates. Until now I
> assumed it was because there was something broken in my compile.
> Now I know the true reason - I'm moving at 96.657463% of c!
> For my next trick I will send a copy of a few other weird stats files
> yesterday. ;-)
>
> John
> --
>
> Run Fast
> Run Free
> Run Linux
>


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From: Roz
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 4 Dec 2002 23:28:19
Message: <3DEED62D.1030402@netscape.net>
Doctor John wrote:
> Rafal 'Raf256' Maj wrote:
> 
>>"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
>>news:3dec0a34[at]news.povray.org
>>
>>
>>>Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>>>    Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>>
>>How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?
>>
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the only one getting weird time estimates. Until now I
> assumed it was because there was something broken in my compile.
> Now I know the true reason - I'm moving at 96.657463% of c!
> For my next trick I will send a copy of a few other weird stats files
> yesterday. ;-)
> 

I see the Time For Trace hours/minutes/seconds part offbase all the time.
The seconds listed in the parentheses will be correct. Here's an example
from rendering biscuit.pov (320x240 no AA):

Time For Trace:    0 hours 30 minutes  60.0 seconds (3 seconds)
     Total Time:    0 hours  0 minutes   3.0 seconds (3 seconds)

What I think it's been doing is calculating the trace time for the
hours/minutes/seconds part based on how long the POV-Ray render window
stays open. I know that sounds weird but testing seems to bear that
out. For the biscuit.pov times above, I started the render and left
the display window open, made a futile attempt to catch up on newgroups,
then returned to the display window and clicked on it to close it. So
you can see I spent about 30 minutes trying to comprehend the many
POV-Ray newsgroup postings.

This is with the Linux version btw, I have not tested the behavior on
any other platform.

I like Tek's suggestion though and we need to look into implementing
some sort of backwards timewarp so that my 15 hr renders only take
3 minutes ;)

-Roz


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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 5 Dec 2002 05:32:28
Message: <pan.2002.12.05.10.31.18.639349.222@gte.net>
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 09:22:18 -0500, Doctor John quoth:

> Rafal 'Raf256' Maj wrote:
>>"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
>>news:3dec0a34[at]news.povray.org
>>
>>> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>>>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
>>
>>How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?
>>
> I'm glad I'm not the only one getting weird time estimates. Until now I
> assumed it was because there was something broken in my compile. Now I
> know the true reason - I'm moving at 96.657463% of c! For my next trick
> I will send a copy of a few other weird stats files yesterday. ;-)

This gives new meaning to the idea of "relativistic ray-tracing" ;-)

-- 
Mark


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: blub
Date: 5 Dec 2002 05:39:38
Message: <3def2cea@news.povray.org>
I just read that thread and downloaded some cool animations after browsing
the net. Those animations and images were done with a POV-Ray hack.
Unfortunately no realistic shifting of colors though.


"Mark Wagner" <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
news:pan### [at] gtenet...
> On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 09:22:18 -0500, Doctor John quoth:
>
> > Rafal 'Raf256' Maj wrote:
> >>"Apache" <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
> >>news:3dec0a34[at]news.povray.org
> >>
> >>> Time For Trace:   14 hours 12 minutes  27.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
> >>>     Total Time:   14 hours  8 minutes  22.0 seconds (50902 seconds)
> >>
> >>How fast was Yours computer moving while rendering ;) ?
> >>
> > I'm glad I'm not the only one getting weird time estimates. Until now I
> > assumed it was because there was something broken in my compile. Now I
> > know the true reason - I'm moving at 96.657463% of c! For my next trick
> > I will send a copy of a few other weird stats files yesterday. ;-)
>
> This gives new meaning to the idea of "relativistic ray-tracing" ;-)
>
> --
> Mark


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