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Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC will be of some
ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week now (it's been a while since I
last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back to RTFM often as I had forgotten the simplest
things...).
Everything but the oven, the coffee percolator, the juice bottle and one of the jars
was modelled just for this scene. No lights were used. Total render time (saving and
later on loading radiosity data): ~10 hours, Athlon 1 GHz, 384 MB, medium radiosity
settings, AA method 1 (which did not do a great job). Contrast enhanced in PP (the
original looked just a bit too bright to me, but now this looks a bit too dark... hmm
in media stat virtus probably).
A hella lot of work still has to be done:
- more jars.
- something to put into the jars.
- labels.
- some cloth.
- fire and steam on the coffe pot.
- something that I can't remember right now.
- hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
PS:
weird thing: Windows crashed when half the image had been rendered. It crashed, I
mean, lots of strange things: the icons turned black, everything got frozen...
everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued undisturbed its job... talking about
luck.
Cheers,
--
Jonathan.
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Very nice scene! A few suggestions:
1. Make those dots on the oven larger so that none of them are missed.
2. Excellent wood texture, but I would expect the wood to look stained or
something (right now it looks like someone just put it together).
3. Vary the wall tiles a little. Maybe have 3 different (but similar) kinds
of tiles, or have most of them plain except for an occasional, random
flowery one, or something like that. The repetition is too strong right now,
I think.
4. Make sure the final composition doesn't have the head-on shot that this
picture has. Take it from a more interesting angle.
5. Make us a tutorial on texturing. =)
> weird thing: Windows crashed when half the image had been rendered. It
crashed, I
> mean, lots of strange things: the icons turned black, everything got
frozen...
> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued undisturbed its job...
talking about
> luck.
Sounds like you almost ran out of memory.
- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
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EXCELLENT! IMPRESSIVE!
Fernando
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Nice scene started there, sure hope you can complete it okay. Looks like
photons are not used (yet?).
I like the model home look myself. Tends to show how well CG can be shown in
a realistic way while it can still be seen as CG. And if I were to show this
to some people they'd ask if I have a new kitchen without knowing the truth
anyway. It looks very good as is, very fine work on that. Maybe the tile
paintings could have less relief though. My mother paints such things a lot
and these are somewhat lumpy with those highlights showing.
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This is REALLY very nice - one simple suggestion - put a little
randomization on the placement of the glasses in the cabinet.
Also, a couple of degrees of random tile to the bowls in the stack.
Mess it up a little - right now it's just a little TOO perfect! ;)
Heck of a job.
Emory
JRG wrote:
>
> Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC will be of some
> ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week now (it's been a while since
I
> last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back to RTFM often as I had forgotten the
simplest
> things...).
> Everything but the oven, the coffee percolator, the juice bottle and one of the jars
> was modelled just for this scene. No lights were used. Total render time (saving and
> later on loading radiosity data): ~10 hours, Athlon 1 GHz, 384 MB, medium radiosity
> settings, AA method 1 (which did not do a great job). Contrast enhanced in PP (the
> original looked just a bit too bright to me, but now this looks a bit too dark...
hmm
> in media stat virtus probably).
> A hella lot of work still has to be done:
> - more jars.
> - something to put into the jars.
> - labels.
> - some cloth.
> - fire and steam on the coffe pot.
> - something that I can't remember right now.
> - hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
>
> PS:
> weird thing: Windows crashed when half the image had been rendered. It crashed, I
> mean, lots of strange things: the icons turned black, everything got frozen...
> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued undisturbed its job... talking about
> luck.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
> [Image]
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Impressive image! I fail to see how it falls on topic, though...
anyway, I am not a voter so no sweat there, but voters may also have
the same problem.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vip bg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in message
news:pc04uu88l2vt67umv2k731m1f10s0muhem@4ax.com...
> Impressive image! I fail to see how it falls on topic, though...
> anyway, I am not a voter so no sweat there, but voters may also have
> the same problem.
Maybe was meant: the PC froze, so a frozen moment. I don't know. Either that
or a refrigerator/freezer is going to be added with it's door wide open...
Thinking to self: Hmmm, I just did a rendering that might work for that IRTC
theme. Wonder if I could ever manage to enter for once.
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hughes, b. wrote:
> "Peter Popov" <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in message
> news:pc04uu88l2vt67umv2k731m1f10s0muhem@4ax.com...
>
>>Impressive image! I fail to see how it falls on topic, though...
>>anyway, I am not a voter so no sweat there, but voters may also have
>>the same problem.
>
>
> Maybe was meant: the PC froze, so a frozen moment. I don't know. Either that
> or a refrigerator/freezer is going to be added with it's door wide open...
I think he said:
- hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
that might be the frozen movement.
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hey
this one looks really great. i love these textures! slime is right, a
tutorial would be *very* nice ;-)
you did that one in one week? oh my good, i'm now working three weeks on my
current image and it looks still so unfinished. perhaps i should stop going
to school and start rendering all day long ...
looking forward to see the final image
florian
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As usually magnificent!! Clean but convincing. That's because of good
lighting. Just the wood may be too clean, if it's supposed to be real wood.
> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued
> undisturbed its job... talking about luck.
Talking about quality. ;o)
Btw, I'm using your trick for a window-highlight now (or perhaps just
something close to your trick), thanks to your help. But I still find a
combination of light_sources and radiosity to give the best results. My
tests are based on a grey sphere on a grey plane; a minimal scene without
'textures'.. But artifacts seems rarely visible in your posts, which
continously amaze me.
Regards,
Hugo
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> you did that one in one week?
Don't worry, he didn't do this in one week. :o) He worked on this for ...
quite some time. If you search the posts in this group, you'll see.
Regards,
Hugo
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Ah, beautiful!
Actual photorealism as opposed to "nauseating raytracing trying too hard to
be photorealistic" .
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 00:48:24 +0100
"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC
> will be of some ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week
> now (it's been a while since I last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back
> to RTFM often as I had forgotten the simplest things...).
Yeah... and I'm supossed to believe it? :)
Seriously now: beautiful ambient, the reflections are amazing.
As usual your modelling it's very fine. Waiting to see the final
result...
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org
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JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message news:3de16677@news.povray.org...
Very nice. I like the straight on, eye level view. I would either move the
right hand side of the cabinet out of the frame, or the left hand side of
the oven into frame, but that's just me. The scale of the scene seemed odd
to me at first because I haven't seen many 6" tiles like the ones on your
walls. I'm assuming these tiles are more common over there.
Your modeling is as usual incredible.
-Shay
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Great "start". The lighting is great and the highlights are ... erm, a
higlight of the pic :O
Also the texturing is solid and the modelling is top notch.
Here's my criticism.
Some of the wood textures seem to be going in the wrong direction but I'm
not an expert in that matter so I could be wrong also the two bottom drawers
seem to have an identical knot in them, maybe you could translate either
texture a bit.
I'd also like to see some change in the pattern of the tiles in the wall.
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Slime wrote:
>Very nice scene! A few suggestions:
Thank you.
>1. Make those dots on the oven larger so that none of them are missed.
So no need for a 2048x1596 render?? Wow I'm the king of dumbs... ;-)
>2. Excellent wood texture, but I would expect the wood to look stained or
>something (right now it looks like someone just put it together).
Yes. Some dirt on it is on my to do list.
>3. Vary the wall tiles a little. Maybe have 3 different (but similar) kinds
>of tiles, or have most of them plain except for an occasional, random
>flowery one, or something like that. The repetition is too strong right now,
>I think.
Consider it done.
>4. Make sure the final composition doesn't have the head-on shot that this
>picture has. Take it from a more interesting angle.
Sure. This is just a test render to see how things blend together :-)
>5. Make us a tutorial on texturing. =)
?? Most of them are very cheap single layer textures... nothing really
fancy.
>
>Sounds like you almost ran out of memory.
Nope. Quicktime caused an error in kernel32.dll or something... a classic
but scary! Thank you very much for your input!
>
> - Slime
>
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Jonathan.
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Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto wrote:
>EXCELLENT! IMPRESSIVE!
Hey, I'm glad you like it, thanks!
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hughes, b. wrote:
>Nice scene started there, sure hope you can complete it okay. Looks like
>photons are not used (yet?).
No Martini no p... I mean no lightsources no photons, and no I'm not going
to mess with lightgroups or tricks like that... ;-)
>I like the model home look myself. Tends to show how well CG can be shown in
>a realistic way while it can still be seen as CG. And if I were to show this
>to some people they'd ask if I have a new kitchen without knowing the truth
>anyway. It looks very good as is, very fine work on that. Maybe the tile
>paintings could have less relief though. My mother paints such things a lot
>and these are somewhat lumpy with those highlights showing.
Actually I added that bumpiness just because I thought it looked cool... not
because of any real reference... hmm I'll try different combos and choose
what I see fit.
Thanks!
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Gwen & Emory Stagmer wrote:
>This is REALLY very nice
Thank you.
>- one simple suggestion - put a little
>randomization on the placement of the glasses in the cabinet.
Yes, you're right but, you know, those glasses are so darn close one to each
other... and I'm so lazy... no seriously I'll fix that thanks :-)
>Also, a couple of degrees of random tile to the bowls in the stack.
You don't like blue do you? ;-)
>Mess it up a little - right now it's just a little TOO perfect! ;)
Agreed, thanks!
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Peter Popov wrote:
>Impressive image!
Thanks!
>I fail to see how it falls on topic, though...
>anyway, I am not a voter so no sweat there, but voters may also have
>the same problem.
That's why I put a WIP 1 there :-)
Anyway, if the final scene doesn't fit the topic, fine, I won't enter the
round, but at least I'll finally have a piece of work finished!
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Florian Brucker wrote:
>hey
hola
>this one looks really great. i love these textures! slime is right, a
>tutorial would be *very* nice ;-)
>
>you did that one in one week? oh my good, i'm now working three weeks on my
>current image and it looks still so unfinished. perhaps i should stop going
>to school and start rendering all day long ...
University is the main reason I didn't raytrace for so long.
>looking forward to see the final image
me too :-) cross fingers.
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Hugo wrote:
>As usually magnificent!! Clean but convincing. That's because of good
>lighting. Just the wood may be too clean, if it's supposed to be real wood.
Thanks, and yes you're right about the wood, I'll dirt it up.
>> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued
>> undisturbed its job... talking about luck.
>
>Talking about quality. ;o)
>
>Btw, I'm using your trick for a window-highlight now (or perhaps just
>something close to your trick), thanks to your help. But I still find a
>combination of light_sources and radiosity to give the best results. My
>tests are based on a grey sphere on a grey plane; a minimal scene without
>'textures'.. But artifacts seems rarely visible in your posts, which
>continously amaze me.
No tricks here. This time the wall is a "real" wall. Although it may look
similar it's a completely different radiosity setup, slower but better.
Cheers,
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Jonathan
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Hugo wrote:
>> you did that one in one week?
>
>Don't worry, he didn't do this in one week. :o) He worked on this for ...
>quite some time. If you search the posts in this group, you'll see.
Yes the coffe percolator is almost one year old, which is sad: I can make a
several hundreds lines CSG model and texture it in one day, then I feel so
tired that I can't touch POV-Ray for weeks. This way I'll never finish a
scene... :-( Together with the fact that I'm very busy at university, this
is the main reason why my productivity is so unbelievably low...
Anyway, I did do that in one week, except the oven, the coffe percolator,
the juice bottle and the smallest jar, as stated elsewhere.
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>Ah, beautiful!
>
>Actual photorealism as opposed to "nauseating raytracing trying too hard to
>be photorealistic" .
Thank you Greg! This could also serve as a beautiful signature...
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>Ah, beautiful!
>
>Actual photorealism as opposed to "nauseating raytracing trying too hard to
>be photorealistic" .
Thank you Greg! This could also serve as a nice signature.
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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 00:48:24 +0100
>"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>
>> Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC
>> will be of some ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week
>> now (it's been a while since I last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back
>> to RTFM often as I had forgotten the simplest things...).
>
> Yeah... and I'm supossed to believe it? :)
I swear :)
>
> Seriously now: beautiful ambient, the reflections are amazing.
>As usual your modelling it's very fine. Waiting to see the final
>result...
Thank you Jaime! Coming from you this makes my day.
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Shay wrote:
>JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message news:3de16677[at]news.povray.org...
>
>Very nice.
Thanks!
>I like the straight on, eye level view. I would either move the
>right hand side of the cabinet out of the frame, or the left hand side of
>the oven into frame, but that's just me. The scale of the scene seemed odd
>to me at first because I haven't seen many 6" tiles like the ones on your
>walls. I'm assuming these tiles are more common over there.
Hmm I'm not too familiar with feet inches et similia... do these tiles look
too large? I thought 15cm x 15cm a reasonable size.
>Your modeling is as usual incredible.
Thank you, but this time modelling was pretty straightforward.
Cheers,
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Jide wrote:
>Great "start". The lighting is great and the highlights are ... erm, a
>higlight of the pic :O
>Also the texturing is solid and the modelling is top notch.
Thank you.
>Here's my criticism.
>Some of the wood textures seem to be going in the wrong direction but I'm
>not an expert in that matter so I could be wrong also the two bottom drawers
>seem to have an identical knot in them, maybe you could translate either
>texture a bit.
>I'd also like to see some change in the pattern of the tiles in the wall.
Thanks for your input. I'll work in that direction.
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JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Hmm I'm not too familiar with feet inches et similia... do these tiles
look
> too large? I thought 15cm x 15cm a reasonable size.
>
15x15cm would be about 6x6in. I'm not sure I've ever seen 6" tiles on a
wall. That's here though, I'm not sure what is common over there. Here, the
most common wall tiles are 4x4in (10.16x10.16cm).
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I wouldn't add too much thingies, but that's because my house is full of
stuff and I'm getting tired of that....;-)
"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC will
be of some
> ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week now (it's been a
while since I
> last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back to RTFM often as I had forgotten
the simplest
> things...).
> Everything but the oven, the coffee percolator, the juice bottle and one
of the jars
> was modelled just for this scene. No lights were used. Total render time
(saving and
> later on loading radiosity data): ~10 hours, Athlon 1 GHz, 384 MB, medium
radiosity
> settings, AA method 1 (which did not do a great job). Contrast enhanced in
PP (the
> original looked just a bit too bright to me, but now this looks a bit too
dark... hmm
> in media stat virtus probably).
> A hella lot of work still has to be done:
> - more jars.
> - something to put into the jars.
> - labels.
> - some cloth.
> - fire and steam on the coffe pot.
> - something that I can't remember right now.
> - hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
>
> PS:
> weird thing: Windows crashed when half the image had been rendered. It
crashed, I
> mean, lots of strange things: the icons turned black, everything got
frozen...
> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued undisturbed its job...
talking about
> luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
>
>
>
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I wouldn't add too much thingies, but that's because my house is full of
stuff and I'm getting tired of that....;-)
"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3de16677@news.povray.org...
> Hm I have not completed a scene yet this year... hopefully the IRTC will
be of some
> ispiration. I've been working on this thing for a week now (it's been a
while since I
> last used POV-Ray, and I had to go back to RTFM often as I had forgotten
the simplest
> things...).
> Everything but the oven, the coffee percolator, the juice bottle and one
of the jars
> was modelled just for this scene. No lights were used. Total render time
(saving and
> later on loading radiosity data): ~10 hours, Athlon 1 GHz, 384 MB, medium
radiosity
> settings, AA method 1 (which did not do a great job). Contrast enhanced in
PP (the
> original looked just a bit too bright to me, but now this looks a bit too
dark... hmm
> in media stat virtus probably).
> A hella lot of work still has to be done:
> - more jars.
> - something to put into the jars.
> - labels.
> - some cloth.
> - fire and steam on the coffe pot.
> - something that I can't remember right now.
> - hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
>
> PS:
> weird thing: Windows crashed when half the image had been rendered. It
crashed, I
> mean, lots of strange things: the icons turned black, everything got
frozen...
> everything but POV-Ray (phew!) which continued undisturbed its job...
talking about
> luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
>
>
>
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JRG wrote:
>Greg M. Johnson wrote:
>>Ah, beautiful!
>>
>>Actual photorealism as opposed to "nauseating raytracing trying too hard to
>>be photorealistic" .
>
>Thank you Greg! This could also serve as a nice signature.
>
>--
>Jonathan
Weird. The web interface told me an error occurred and the message couldn't
be sent... oh well beta testing is beta testing :-)
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Nice modeling! The grain on the outside panels of
the cabinet is strange. The heart of the wood is
visible on the edge. Same with the bottom. I think
it would look better if you translate that off. Nice
lighting too...
=Bob=
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"Art Flint" <Art### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote in message
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> hughes, b. wrote:
> >
> > Maybe was meant: the PC froze, so a frozen moment. I don't know. Either
that
> > or a refrigerator/freezer is going to be added with it's door wide
open...
>
> I think he said:
> - hungry cat + food = spilling juice (you get the idea).
>
> that might be the frozen movement.
Oh! Yeah, that didn't occur to me as such a thing either. Snapshot of a
candid thing. Hopefully won't take place near the stovetop once the flame is
added. That would get ugly.
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hey guys
>I can make a several hundreds lines CSG model and texture it
>in one day, then I feel so tired that I can't touch POV-Ray for weeks.
it's the same with me. my image could be done in one week.
school also takes its time ;-(
greetings,
florian
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