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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 8 Jun 2002 18:30:55
Message: <3d02859f@news.povray.org>
Taking into account your valuable feedback from my last post, I made some
minor changes, and I'm posting two versions:

1. Less noise, and used the technique described by Kari Kivisalo.
2. No noise at all

I believe the noise is subtle, but it does add a bit of realism.

Which one would you choose? Is it still better without any additional noise?

Fernando.


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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 8 Jun 2002 18:50:31
Message: <3d028a37@news.povray.org>
> I believe the noise is subtle, but it does add a bit of realism.
>
> Which one would you choose? Is it still better without any additional
noise?

The one with the noise looks awesome! Great realism!

-Peter


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 8 Jun 2002 19:29:17
Message: <3D0297C9.8070103@caltel.com>
These images are making me hungry for gobstoppers or gum balls....

Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto wrote:

> Taking into account your valuable feedback from my last post, I made some
> minor changes, and I'm posting two versions:
> 
> 1. Less noise, and used the technique described by Kari Kivisalo.
> 2. No noise at all
> 
> I believe the noise is subtle, but it does add a bit of realism.
> 
> Which one would you choose? Is it still better without any additional noise?
> 
> Fernando.
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Samuel Benge

sbe### [at] caltelcom


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 02:37:08
Message: <rPYCPTJHKOVCWN16O=68bc15G7JM@4ax.com>
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:32:03 -0500, "Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto"
<fcu### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

>Taking into account your valuable feedback from my last post, I made some
>minor changes, and I'm posting two versions:

The noise is more subtle than I had thought it would be, compared to
the "noise-free" image. However, I still prefer the ones with a little
noise added.



Later,
Glen

7no### [at] ezwvcom     (Remove the numeral "7")


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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 03:27:33
Message: <3d030365@news.povray.org>
Thanks Peter! I'm now working in another image... I'll post it soon.

Thanks again,

Fernando.


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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 03:28:12
Message: <3d03038c$1@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <sbe### [at] caltelcom> wrote in message
news:3D0### [at] caltelcom...
> These images are making me hungry for gobstoppers or gum balls....
>

I guess that's good! :)

Fernando.


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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 03:48:19
Message: <3d030843$1@news.povray.org>
"Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
news:rPYCPTJHKOVCWN16O=68bc15G7JM@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 17:32:03 -0500, "Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto"
> <fcu### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>
> >Taking into account your valuable feedback from my last post, I made some
> >minor changes, and I'm posting two versions:
>
> The noise is more subtle than I had thought it would be, compared to
> the "noise-free" image. However, I still prefer the ones with a little
> noise added.

Yes, I also think it was very subtle but it does improve the realism.

Thanks Glen,

Fernando.


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 16:14:31
Message: <3d03b727$1@news.povray.org>
I prefer the one without noise. Because noise is a temporary problem of
real-life cameras that will soon be long gone. But photos will still look
realistic. So a realistic raytracing shouldn't depend upon tricks like this.
It's even possible a noisy picture will be "irritating" for people in the
future. Though we think it's an enhancing effect.


Hugo


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From: Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 9 Jun 2002 16:25:35
Message: <3d03b9bf$1@news.povray.org>
"Hugo" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message
news:3d03b727$1@news.povray.org...
> I prefer the one without noise. Because noise is a temporary problem of
> real-life cameras that will soon be long gone. But photos will still look
> realistic. So a realistic raytracing shouldn't depend upon tricks like
this.
> It's even possible a noisy picture will be "irritating" for people in the
> future. Though we think it's an enhancing effect.

True, very true! Though, minimizing noise isn't the same as eliminating it.
We've been able to diminish noise successfully, but I'm not sure how much
time will have to pass before we can say the noise is low enough to be
undetectable.

Let's hope we'll converge rapidly to that goal :)

Fernando.


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From: Richard Dault
Subject: Re: Color marbles (minor changes)
Date: 11 Jun 2002 11:08:09
Message: <3d061259@news.povray.org>
It's funny, when I saw your marble images, I remembered doing something
similar before (about 3-4 months ago), and I finally found the picture.  I
don't recall basing it on any images, but it looks very similar to yours.

I wanted to fix the horrible lights, but never got around to it.  I should
have made a window like you did.


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