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From: Chris Purdy
Subject: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 9 May 2002 14:24:18
Message: <3cdabed2@news.povray.org>
Hi again everyone,

I think I may just wind up entering a future version of this image in the
IRTC this round, that's why I put a signature on it... please don't
distribute this... thanks..

I warmed up the image by adjusting the sun color and position... I'm going
for a late afternoon setting... you know, that "golden time" right before
sunset.

Anyways,  I'm having some issues with my photons... they are working very
well, but I'm getting speckles behind the top of the columns... I'm assuming
that this is because I need to use more photons, but thought I should ask
first.  The image rendering stats and pic follow, input is appreciated.

- Chris

Statistics for C:\Program Files\Moray For
Windows\PovScn\temple-3-final-1.pov, Resolution 1024 x 768
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Pixels:          790134   Samples:         1374294   Smpls/Pxl: 1.74
Rays:           7514302   Saved:               769   Max Level: 7/10
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Ray->Shape Intersection          Tests       Succeeded  Percentage
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Box                          147632334        27261411     18.47
Cone/Cylinder                 52201599         1251238      2.40
CSG Intersection             104167955         5228237      5.02
CSG Merge                      7858692         2281948     29.04
CSG Union                     19433735          935098      4.81
Lathe                           456747          106104     23.23
Lathe Bound                     456747          337552     73.90
Mesh                           6387289          757213     11.85
Sphere                        28424322        12888918     45.34
Torus                        106569176         2110379      1.98
Torus Bound                  106569176         2845742      2.67
Bounding Object                5080844         1627007     32.02
Bounding Box                 320179138       113703206     35.51
Light Buffer                  30802260        14818044     48.11
Vista Buffer                  15046489        10105357     67.16
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Roots tested:              3311866   eliminated:             1013160
Calls to Noise:            1476246   Calls to DNoise:        4428748
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Shadow Ray Tests:          9964018   Succeeded:              1989694
Reflected Rays:            1443564   Total Internal:           22935
Refracted Rays:            1330912
Number of photons shot:          81282
Surface photons stored:          25477
Priority queue insert:       753688770
Priority queue remove:       272030585
Gather function called:        5833529
Gather radius expanded:         861134
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Radiosity samples calculated:      65685 (2.95 percent)
Radiosity samples reused:        2163161
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Smallest Alloc:                 25 bytes   Largest:          2548968
Peak memory used:         23330954 bytes
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Time For Parse:    0 hours  0 minutes   8.0 seconds (8 seconds)
Time For Photon:   0 hours  0 minutes   2.0 seconds (2 seconds)
Time For Trace:    2 hours 18 minutes  49.0 seconds (8329 seconds)
    Total Time:    2 hours 18 minutes  59.0 seconds (8339 seconds)
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CPU time used: kernel 42.68 seconds, user 8011.97 seconds, total 8054.65
seconds
Render averaged 97.64 PPS over 786432 pixels

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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 9 May 2002 15:07:36
Message: <3cdac8f8$1@news.povray.org>
"Chris Purdy" <esc### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in bericht
news:3cdabed2@news.povray.org...
> I warmed up the image by adjusting the sun color and position... I'm going
> for a late afternoon setting... you know, that "golden time" right before
> sunset.
Is that why everything looks yellow?
I'm sorry, but I think the yellow destroys the image...

cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 9 May 2002 17:51:16
Message: <3cdaef54$1@news.povray.org>
> I'm sorry, but I think the yellow destroys the image...

Umm, I must disagree.. I love it.. Very inviting colors, but I think the
water is a bit too blue.


Hugo


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From: Jide
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 10 May 2002 06:05:48
Message: <3cdb9b7c$1@news.povray.org>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> "Chris Purdy" <esc### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in bericht
> news:3cdabed2@news.povray.org...
> > I warmed up the image by adjusting the sun color and position... I'm
going
> > for a late afternoon setting... you know, that "golden time" right
before
> > sunset.
> Is that why everything looks yellow?
> I'm sorry, but I think the yellow destroys the image...
>

I agree and imho the yellow has too much green in it. I checked the values
from the wall and every sample of the about 20 colors I checked had more
green than red in them.
I am optically challenged when it comes to red/green so that might also
explain why it seems to have too much green for me.

--
-Jide


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From: Chris Purdy
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 10 May 2002 06:38:41
Message: <3cdba331$1@news.povray.org>
I'm also red/reen colorblind (to a point) so the subtle changes are hard for
me to recognise.
In this instance the sun is:
color rgb (1.0, 1.0, 0.214)*.5713
There is also a white sphere near it for the radiosity setup.

I have a version rendering right now with high quality rediosity turned on
and photons set to count = 400000.  It looks like its going to be a lot more
gold colored from the photons reflecting on the wall, its been running 9 hrs
so far at 1280X1024 AA0.1 it'll probably take another 9 to finish, at least.

- Chris
"Jide" <jid### [at] kotisoonfi> wrote in message
news:3cdb9b7c$1@news.povray.org...
> Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> > "Chris Purdy" <esc### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in bericht
> > news:3cdabed2@news.povray.org...
> > > I warmed up the image by adjusting the sun color and position... I'm
> going
> > > for a late afternoon setting... you know, that "golden time" right
> before
> > > sunset.
> > Is that why everything looks yellow?
> > I'm sorry, but I think the yellow destroys the image...
> >
>
> I agree and imho the yellow has too much green in it. I checked the values
> from the wall and every sample of the about 20 colors I checked had more
> green than red in them.
> I am optically challenged when it comes to red/green so that might also
> explain why it seems to have too much green for me.
>
> --
> -Jide
>
>
>


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 10 May 2002 06:47:02
Message: <3cdba526$1@news.povray.org>
> Is that why everything looks yellow?
> I'm sorry, but I think the yellow destroys the image...

I have to say I side with Hugo on this one I like the colour. Though perhaps
it is just a bit too saturated. To tell you the truth I like both versions,
your last one has a stark almost unwelcoming feeling to it, which is a good
thing not a bad thing, while this one has more of a warm feeling, as you
described it "golden time". The water is improved quit a bit, but perhaps
you might want to tone down the bright blue sky, usually at this time of day
the sky is getting dark anyway.


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From: Jide
Subject: Re: Temple of Athene semi-fina l- has some photon issues... see text
Date: 10 May 2002 06:53:06
Message: <3cdba692$1@news.povray.org>
Chris Purdy wrote:
> I'm also red/reen colorblind (to a point) so the subtle changes are hard
for
> me to recognise.

And we have only our mothers to blame ;)

> I have a version rendering right now with high quality rediosity turned on
> and photons set to count = 400000.  It looks like its going to be a lot
more
> gold colored from the photons reflecting on the wall, its been running 9
hrs
> so far at 1280X1024 AA0.1 it'll probably take another 9 to finish, at
least.

Good. Like I said it's mostly just the excess green that's bothering me a
bit in the image.

--
-Jide


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