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Getting there....
The lamp is a slightly adapted G.Tran include (why re-invent the wheel?)
Things to do
Footprints, cupboard texture, snow against base of lamp and cupboard, play some
more with the snow texture in general....
The more I look at photos of snow, the more the stuff confuses me.... Is it very
dependant on sub-surface scattering? Reflectivity? Little green men?
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B<3)#while(I[B])A[mod(I[B],10)]+#local I[B]=div(I[B],10);#end<-5,-
2,9>#local B=B+1;#end}#end #local A=array[7]{x,x*2,x*4,y,y*2,y*4,z
}light_source{-x*6-z*9,1}mesh{G(105,10,146)G(105,246,10)G(105,56,
146)G(105,1256,246)G(1256,126,220)G(22156,2216,201)pigment{rgb 1}}//TM
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an image might help....
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Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlu couk> wrote in message
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> The lamp is a slightly adapted G.Tran include (why re-invent the wheel?)
I think that for background items this is OK, but the lamp is such an
integral part of your scene that you should really model it yourself.
Besides that, the scene looks great. The only additions I could think of are
already on your to-do list (except footprints.)
-Shay
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:36:48 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> Footprints, cupboard texture, snow against base of lamp and cupboard, play some
> more with the snow texture in general....
Yes, I demand footprints :-) Also under person, otherwise... it must be very
hard snow or very light person.
Lightning is strange. It's night, right ? Something gives very sharp shadow. I
doubt it could be only moon.
Very nice.
ABX
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Shay <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message
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(except footprints.)
> -Shay
Whoops, missed that in your comments.
-Shay
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"W³odzimierz ABX Skiba" <abx### [at] babilonorg> wrote in message
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> Lightning is strange. It's night, right ? Something gives very sharp shadow. I
> doubt it could be only moon.
>
I need to find some reference pics - I'm very unsure as to how the lighting
should look.
> Very nice.
Thanks...
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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message news:3c5ffebf$2@news.povray.org...
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> I think that for background items this is OK, but the lamp is such an
> integral part of your scene that you should really model it yourself.
>
Should, but probably shan't ;) With any luck, a couple of voters might not read
my notes crediting GT - should be worth a couple of points....
Glad you like it.
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:59:24 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> I need to find some reference pics - I'm very unsure as to how the lighting
> should look.
http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/snow.html
http://www.urban75.org/photos/newyork/ny63.html
http://www.williamjosephgallery.com/images/Image%20Portfolios/Black%20and%20White%20%20%20Western%20U.S.%20Ski%20and%20Snow%201.htm
ABX
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"W³odzimierz ABX Skiba" <abx### [at] babilonorg> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:59:24 -0000, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> > I need to find some reference pics - I'm very unsure as to how the lighting
> > should look.
>
> http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/snow.html
> http://www.urban75.org/photos/newyork/ny63.html
>
http://www.williamjosephgallery.com/images/Image%20Portfolios/Black%20and%20Whit
e%20%20%20Western%20U.S.%20Ski%20and%20Snow%201.htm
>
I want to have your children....
Actually, I've seen some of these already (and quite a few more). I've yet to
find the perfect reference image...
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Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> Should, but probably shan't ;)
In case you change your mind:
http://www.raytechstore.com/streetlights.htm
You could probably model one of these in a half hour.
-Shay
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> Getting there....
Not too shabby.
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> an image might help....
Very much gives me the feeling of the story, except that I always
thought the lamppost was a little more surrounded by trees. I will have to
read that again.
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Bill DeWitt <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
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> Very much gives me the feeling of the story, >
>
I am not familiar with this story. What is it from?
-Shay
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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message
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>
> Bill DeWitt <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
> news:3c60205a@news.povray.org...
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> > Very much gives me the feeling of the story, >
> >
>
> I am not familiar with this story. What is it from?
Ho-ho... A virgin...
Chronicles of Narnia, Christian metaphor children's stories by C.S.
Lewis. Well worth reading as an adult, really good for reading to children
as they get close to the age where they no longer really want someone to
read to them, a little too scary and bloody for some younger children.
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:09:32 -0500, Bill DeWitt wrote:
>
> "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
> news:3c5ffc6c@news.povray.org...
>> an image might help....
>
> Very much gives me the feeling of the story, except that I always
> thought the lamppost was a little more surrounded by trees. I will have to
> read that again.
Indeed. Too thick for horses, even. And some distance from the wardrobe,
as well.
(spoiler warning...)
<<<
Lucy felt a little frightened, but she felt very inquisitive and excited
as well. She looked back over her shoulder and there, between the dark
tree trunks; she could still see the open doorway of the wardrobe and
even catch a glimpse of the empty room from which she had set out. (She
had, of course, left the door open, for she knew that it is a very silly
thing to shut oneself into a wardrobe.) It seemed to be still daylight
there. "I can always get back if anything goes wrong," thought Lucy. She
began to walk forward, crunch-crunch over the snow and through the wood
towards the other light. In about ten minutes she reached it and found
it was a lamp-post. As she stood looking at it, wondering why there was
a lamp-post in the middle of a wood and wondering what to do next, she
heard a pitter patter of feet coming towards her. And soon after that a
very strange person stepped out from among the trees into the light of
the lamp-post.
>>>
<<<
And they saw the stag enter into a thicket where their horses could not
follow. Then said King Peter (for they talked in quite a different style
now, having been Kings and Queens for so long), "Fair Consorts, let us
now alight from our horses and follow this beast into the thicket; for
in all my days I never hunted a nobler quarry."
"Sir," said the others, "even so let us do."
So they alighted and tied their horses to trees and went on into the thick
wood on foot. And as soon as they had entered it Queen Susan said,
"Fair friends, here is a great marvel, for I seem to see a tree of iron."
"Madam," said,King Edmund, "if you look well upon it you shall see it is a
pillar of iron with a lantern set on the top thereof."
>>>
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Reading this bit of the book and seeing the picture make me very much want
to render a scene from my favorite book. Too bad I don't have one. Haven't
read a book in a long time and the only good one I remember is Frankenstein.
-Shay
Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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Looking good Tom.
~Steve~
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> }light_source{-x*6-z*9,1}mesh{G(105,10,146)G(105,246,10)G(105,56,
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Looking very good Tom. I find it a very believable interpretation of
the story.
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"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
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>
> Very much gives me the feeling of the story, except that I always
> thought the lamppost was a little more surrounded by trees. I will have to
> read that again.
>
Oh, I get 0 points for accuracy.
1. The cupboard should indeed be amongst more trees
2. It should be much further away from the lamp
3. It shouldn't look like the front of the cupboard, it should look like just
the back of the cupboard.
and....
4. Lucy is not a bloke in a wig....
For problems 1 to 3, I'm pleading artistic licence.....
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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<snip>
Forsooth, I am unmasked....
BTW I've always wondered if CS Lewis knew what he was going to do in "The
Magician's Nephew" before he wrote TLTWATW, or whether he worked out a way to
plot the lamp and wardrobe after the event...
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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<snip>
.... and for extra points, what, in terms of plot, is wrong with the design of
the lamp?
BTW didja notice I used photons? Didja? Didja?
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> "Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
> news:3c60205a@news.povray.org...
> >
> > Very much gives me the feeling of the story, except that I always
> > thought the lamppost was a little more surrounded by trees. I will have to
> > read that again.
> >
>
> Oh, I get 0 points for accuracy.
>
> 1. The cupboard should indeed be amongst more trees
> 2. It should be much further away from the lamp
> 3. It shouldn't look like the front of the cupboard, it should look like just
> the back of the cupboard.
>
> and....
>
> 4. Lucy is not a bloke in a wig....
>
> For problems 1 to 3, I'm pleading artistic licence.....
>
IIRC she's also a bit of a tubby.
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:43:56 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> "Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
> news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>
><snip>
>
> .... and for extra points, what, in terms of plot, is wrong with the design of
> the lamp?
>
> BTW didja notice I used photons? Didja? Didja?
I did. Personally, I probably would have used projected_through for the
same effect and less rendering time, but that's just me.
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:43:56 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> "Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
> news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>
><snip>
>
> .... and for extra points, what, in terms of plot, is wrong with the design of
> the lamp?
It's hard to tell from this picture, because of the lack of contrast with the
tree behind it, but it appears to not have a crossbar. Saying more would
probably be a spoiler for The Magician's Nephew.
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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> It's hard to tell from this picture, because of the lack of contrast with the
> tree behind it, but it appears to not have a crossbar. Saying more would
> probably be a spoiler for The Magician's Nephew.
>
Wow! You really know your Narnia...
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:13:58 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> "Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
> news:slr### [at] fwicom...
>
>> It's hard to tell from this picture, because of the lack of contrast with the
>> tree behind it, but it appears to not have a crossbar. Saying more would
>> probably be a spoiler for The Magician's Nephew.
>>
>
> Wow! You really know your Narnia...
Well, it's only a major plot point, right?
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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> I did. Personally, I probably would have used projected_through for the
> same effect and less rendering time, but that's just me.
>
Actually, I was curious about this....
Should I restrict photon collection to just the appropriate area, or is there
sufficient optimisation already?
And just to check, is there a way to set "collect off" as the default? I tried
adding it to the global photons block but with no luck...
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Nice image so far...
I think this has been discussed before but what did you use to generate the
mountains? Is this a heightfield?
Narnia questions....
What's the name of the boy in the Magicians Nephew?
What was the name of the place with all the puddles/ponds (that was like a
World between Worlds)?
From what I remember he used a magic ring to get there. Where did the ring
come from?
Reuben
doo### [at] breathemailnet
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> an image might help....
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"Reuben Pearse" <doo### [at] breathemailnet> wrote in message
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> Nice image so far...
>
> I think this has been discussed before but what did you use to generate the
> mountains? Is this a heightfield?
Iso-surface (f_ridged_mf) with some additional stuff to create the foreground
plane.
>
> Narnia questions....
> What's the name of the boy in the Magicians Nephew?
Hmm... Arthur?
> What was the name of the place with all the puddles/ponds (that was like a
> World between Worlds)?
Was it the wood between the worlds?
> From what I remember he used a magic ring to get there. Where did the ring
> come from?
From his uncle?
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:20:34 -0000, Reuben Pearse wrote:
> Nice image so far...
>
> I think this has been discussed before but what did you use to generate the
> mountains? Is this a heightfield?
>
> Narnia questions....
> What's the name of the boy in the Magicians Nephew?
> What was the name of the place with all the puddles/ponds (that was like a
> World between Worlds)?
> From what I remember he used a magic ring to get there. Where did the ring
> come from?
Oh, sure, now you make me go look it up.
I only knew the answer to the third one beforehand, and I'd forgotten the
guy's name. I confused the answer to the first one with another character
from a later book, and I can't even find the answer to the second question
in the book. The book seems to just call it the Wood between the Worlds.
Still, given that I last read most of those books somewhere between 15 and
20 years ago (except The Magician's Nephew, which I last read a little over
two years ago, and let's not go into why I never got a chance to reread the
other six, thankyouverymuch) I think I still have a pretty good outline of
most of their plots.
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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>
> Still, given that I last read most of those books somewhere between 15 and
> 20 years ago (except The Magician's Nephew, which I last read a little over
> two years ago, and let's not go into why I never got a chance to reread the
> other six, thankyouverymuch) I think I still have a pretty good outline of
> most of their plots.
Funnily enough, I bought TMN a couple of months ago - it's sitting by my bed on
the "read next" pile.
I recently read an interview with Phillip Pullman, in which he pretty
effectively vented his spleen on the Narnia cycle - particularily the Last
Battle's ending - he has a point, but I love them.
Moving to o.t.
BTW IIRC I think I've figured out why you never got to re-read the others :(
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Tom,
This is interesting... I liked the earlier tree-farm.
Try a lower perspective, looking up at the figure and the lampost.
Make the trees more dense and taller, this will accentuate the minisculeness
of man and the expanse of the new world Lucy has just wandered into.
Leave a couple of openings through the trees so that you can see your
excellent mountains off in the distance. Your wardrobe can be down one of
those venues... perhaps incorporate the view of the room Lucy left to come
here, completing the image and story-line.
Regards,
Robert J Becraft
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> an image might help....
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Tom Melly wrote:
>3. It shouldn't look like the front of the cupboard, it should look like just
>the back of the cupboard.
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Actually, it should be a wardrobe.
Admitedly, I'm not English, but it's my impression that a wardrobe is a
sort of a closet which isn't built into a house, while a cupboard is a
place to put your cups, which is attatched to the wall.
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> escribió en el mensaje
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> an image might help....
Very well done, Tom. Your image goes better.
Only three comments.
1.- More trees and higher.
2.- Some stars.
3.- Don't leave the story recreation apart you from your artistic goal. I
think the girl, the cupboard and the lamppost are OK in their actual
position.
Keep up the good work!
Bye
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On 5 Feb 2002 13:57:56 -0500, Ron Parker wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:09:32 -0500, Bill DeWitt wrote:
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>> "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
>> news:3c5ffc6c@news.povray.org...
>>> an image might help....
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>> Very much gives me the feeling of the story, except that I always
>> thought the lamppost was a little more surrounded by trees. I will have to
>> read that again.
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> Indeed. Too thick for horses, even. And some distance from the wardrobe,
> as well.
>
I like that spoiler function:-) But don't think I've ever seen it used
before.
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:36:48 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> Getting there....
Looking real good so far.
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"Dawn McKnight" <blu### [at] maccom> wrote in message
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> Actually, it should be a wardrobe.
>
> Admitedly, I'm not English, but it's my impression that a wardrobe is a
> sort of a closet which isn't built into a house, while a cupboard is a
> place to put your cups, which is attatched to the wall.
Hmm, sort of..
A cupboard is fairly generic, but a wardrobe is a specific instance of cupboard
used for clothes. A dresser, which is the thing you describe for holding cups,
can also be referred to as a cupboard, but only if it's the type with doors
(either in front of the cups or as in a Welsh dresser).
From encarta:
Wardrobe: a large movable or built-in cupboard with rails, shelves, hooks, etc.,
for storing clothes.
Cupboard: a recess or piece of furniture with a door and (usu.) shelves, in
which things are stored.
Dresser: 1 a kitchen sideboard with shelves above for displaying plates etc. 2
US a dressing-table or chest of drawers.
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote
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> From encarta:
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> Wardrobe: a large movable or built-in cupboard with rails, shelves, hooks,
etc.,
> for storing clothes.
> Cupboard: a recess or piece of furniture with a door and (usu.) shelves,
in
> which things are stored.
> Dresser: 1 a kitchen sideboard with shelves above for displaying plates
etc. 2
> US a dressing-table or chest of drawers.
English! Put dresses in a cupboard and cups in a dresser.
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"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
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> English! Put dresses in a cupboard and cups in a dresser.
Heh - I noticed this. Then we went on to invent cricket....
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Makes me want to reread the books. I read them a long time ago but I
don't think I got more thab halfway through the septilogy.
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