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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 16:41:29
Message: <3B4F5D8C.8654A17@gmx.de>
Thomas Lake wrote:
> 
> [...]
> Here are the radiosity settings I'm currently using:
> 
> pretrace_start 0.01
> pretrace_end   0.005
> recursion_limit 1
> error_bound 0.6
> nearest_count 10
> count 1000
> 

You should probably decrease 'adc_bailout', the suggested value is 
'0.01 / brightest ambient object'

Christoph

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 16:44:44
Message: <3B4F5E4F.C6FBCE76@gmx.de>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Max count is 1600 IIRC.
> 

Is there any reason for this limitation BTW?

Christoph

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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 17:19:37
Message: <3B4F6648.C1DA69C2@infomagic.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> >
> > Max count is 1600 IIRC.
> >
> 
> Is there any reason for this limitation BTW?

Not that *I* know of. I remember being pretty pissed when I found it.. I
was working on my own "light a room with only radiosity" project and I
just couldn't get rid of the artifacts.

-Xplo


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 17:22:40
Message: <3B4F66FF.1DC044A@infomagic.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Thomas Lake wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > Here are the radiosity settings I'm currently using:
> >
> > pretrace_start 0.01
> > pretrace_end   0.005
> > recursion_limit 1
> > error_bound 0.6
> > nearest_count 10
> > count 1000
> >
> 
> You should probably decrease 'adc_bailout', the suggested value is
> '0.01 / brightest ambient object'

Assuming he's using MegaPOV, I would actually suggest *increasing* it to
1. This is counterintuitive, but in my tests it seemed to give a small
speed boost without significantly affecting the image, whereas other
values had no useful effect.

-Xplo


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From: Yadgar
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 17:22:52
Message: <3B4F651B.C90DA81C@ndh.net>
High!

Thomas Lake schrieb:

> I've replaced that awful 'garbage can' in my last image with an H.R.
> Gigeresque alien foetus like thing that I modeled some time ago. I have also
> spruced up the apartment a little with more objects, it no longer looks so
> much like an institution. By introducing the bright outdoor light that comes
> through the slits in the boarded up window I have greatly increased the
> number of artefacts, so I will probably need to do another render with
> higher settings. Here are the radiosity settings I'm currently using:

As you replied to a comment on the first version (hmm, up to now I haven't
found out how to adress news articles as URLs...), you originally went for a
gloomy, oppressing Orwellian mood - so what about a televisor displaying the
latest news from the Malabar front, one of those famous "Big Brother is
watching you!" posters, a crumpled pack of Victory cigarettes (with the tobacco
crumbling out of the paper) and a newspeak dictionary on the table, not to
mention a more worn-out and shabby overall look of the scene?

Now, the room looks more to me like the dwelling of a daylight-dodging cranky
computer hermit...

See you in Khyberspace (under construction)!
http://www.geocities.com/electricafghan/index-e.html

Yadgar


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 17:40:32
Message: <3B4F6B64.99B30280@gmx.de>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:
> 
> Assuming he's using MegaPOV, I would actually suggest *increasing* it to
> 1. This is counterintuitive, but in my tests it seemed to give a small
> speed boost without significantly affecting the image, whereas other
> values had no useful effect.

I remember i once managed to reduce artefacts by decreasing it, not sure
if it works the same in this situation of course.

Christoph

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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 19:01:51
Message: <3b4f7ddf$1@news.povray.org>
> As you replied to a comment on the first version (hmm, up to now I haven't
> found out how to adress news articles as URLs...), you originally went for
a
> gloomy, oppressing Orwellian mood - so what about a televisor displaying
the
> latest news from the Malabar front, one of those famous "Big Brother is
> watching you!" posters, a crumpled pack of Victory cigarettes (with the
tobacco
> crumbling out of the paper) and a newspeak dictionary on the table, not to
> mention a more worn-out and shabby overall look of the scene?

Hehe actually I just finished reading 1984 for the first time a few weeks
ago, so those image are fresh in my memory, however I don't think any of
that would fit with the alien in the alcove. I think the "dwelling of a
daylight-dodging cranky computer hermit" look you mensioned works better
here.


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 13 Jul 2001 19:05:52
Message: <3b4f7ed0@news.povray.org>
> > Assuming he's using MegaPOV, I would actually suggest *increasing* it to
> > 1. This is counterintuitive, but in my tests it seemed to give a small
> > speed boost without significantly affecting the image, whereas other
> > values had no useful effect.
>
> I remember i once managed to reduce artefacts by decreasing it, not sure
> if it works the same in this situation of course.

Thanks, I'll play with the adc_bailout a bit and see what I get.


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 14 Jul 2001 01:24:07
Message: <3B4FD596.636D3009@faricy.net>
The Party would never allow the books in the corner, the picture on the
wall, the calendar... ;)

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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Apartment rad (take 2)
Date: 14 Jul 2001 02:03:44
Message: <3b4fe0c0$1@news.povray.org>
"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
news:3B4FD596.636D3009@faricy.net...
> The Party would never allow the books in the corner, the picture on the
> wall, the calendar... ;)

The books definetly not but the rest ... perhaps if they were produced by
the party and prominently displayed political sayings and images.


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