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From: Simon
Subject: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 10:57:57
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Hi,
I don't know what to add to this picture.
Any suggestions?


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From: Spock
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 11:03:27
Message: <3b20e93f$1@news.povray.org>
Just about anything you can model would look great :-)

Before you add anything I think you should touch up the clouds near the
horizon... I think they should get much smaller, lighter in color, and never
touch the ground (or at least be obscured by some haze at that distance).

Yes, I know its a desert, but maybe I meant dust instead of haze :-)

Nice start.

"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 11:44:36
Message: <3b20f2e4$1@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>

Yeh, seems a bit cluttered ;)

How about http://www.tomandlu.co.uk/misc/photos/pics/camel1.jpg ?


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 11:53:48
Message: <3b20f50c$1@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

    The clouds, of course, are great, but I agree that you need some sense
of distance to them. The general sweep of sand is also very good, but I miss
the little ripples one thinks of in a large dessert. Perhaps they are there
and the shadows don't pick them out?

    As for things to add, that depends on the story you want to tell. Camels
for a caravan, jets for a dessert assault, one lone crab to turn it into a
beach, an oasis for stereotypification, two people on a distant crest with
one struggling to keep up, a thin spattering of grass and flowers on one
edge to show that you are entering the desert...


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From: Dave Blandston
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 12:06:26
Message: <3b20f802$1@news.povray.org>
A skeleton.

"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 14:44:33
Message: <MPG.158b2574d7bd474d98992f@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:54:35 +0200, Simon wrote...
> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

If you're going for the desolate desert feel, then more structure to the 
sand dunes would be a good start, as well as possibly some atmospheric 
haze to represent wind blown sand, and if you're feeling really 
masochistic, then some suggestions of deser tlife like beetles etc.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:16:52
Message: <slrn9i245a.uqi.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:54:35 +0200, Simon wrote:
>Hi,
>I don't know what to add to this picture.
>Any suggestions?
>

I've never seen sand that colour. 

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From: Bryan Valencia
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:26:35
Message: <3B212758.61C56734@209software.com>
a Coke Machine

Simon wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>
>  [Image]

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Software Development Engineer


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From: Bryan Valencia
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:27:16
Message: <3B212781.9E833874@209software.com>
or a ufo, with an alien beside it looking at a map.

Simon wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>
>  [Image]

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Software Development Engineer


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From: Bryan Valencia
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:27:59
Message: <3B2127AC.2FD69393@209software.com>
a Map that says "See New York City" at the top

Bryan Valencia wrote:

> or a ufo, with an alien beside it looking at a map.
>
> Simon wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I don't know what to add to this picture.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >  [Image]
>
> --
> Bryan Valencia
> Software Development Engineer

--
Bryan Valencia
Software Development Engineer


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:37:41
Message: <3b212985$1@news.povray.org>
> Just about anything you can model would look great :-)
I can model many things ... ;-)

> Before you add anything I think you should touch up the >clouds near the
> horizon... I think they should get much smaller, lighter in >color, and
>never
> touch the ground (or at least be obscured by some haze at >that distance).
I'll try it.

> Nice start.
Thanks.


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:50:27
Message: <3b212c83@news.povray.org>
>   The clouds, of course, are great, but I agree that you >need some sense
> of distance to them. The general sweep of sand is also very >good, but I
miss
> the little ripples one thinks of in a large dessert. Perhaps >they are
there
> and the shadows don't pick them out?

The ripples aren't there. But I'll add some.

>     As for things to add, that depends on the story you want >to tell.
Camels
> for a caravan, jets for a dessert assault, one lone crab to >turn it into
a
> beach, an oasis for stereotypification, two people on a >distant crest
with
> one struggling to keep up, a thin spattering of grass and >flowers on one
> edge to show that you are entering the desert...

Sounds good, I'll think about it.

Sorry that I answered per email,I just hit the wrong Button.


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 15:50:28
Message: <3b212c84@news.povray.org>
> A skeleton.
The reflecting Sphere over a checkered floor :-)


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From: Duncan Gray
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 16:17:02
Message: <3b2132be@news.povray.org>
Simon wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

An Ice-Cream bike - One of those three wheeled things with a parapet and a
cooler box on the front.

Well, that's what I'd want to see if I were there !


Are the little black speckles in the sand a problem, or side-effect of the
normal used to add the gainyness? I've had blobs do this to me before, and
never really worked out why - is the sand a Blob, ISO or Heightfield ?

Regards.
--
Duncan Gray
(warning: may contain traces of nut)


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 16:55:57
Message: <3b213bdd@news.povray.org>
> Are the little black speckles in the sand a problem, or side-effect of the
> normal used to add the gainyness? I've had blobs do this to me before, and
> never really worked out why - is the sand a Blob, ISO or Heightfield ?

The sand is an ISO and I don't know why these little black speckles are
there :(


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 17:12:41
Message: <3b213fc9$1@news.povray.org>
Simon schrieb in Nachricht <3b213bdd@news.povray.org>...
>
>The sand is an ISO and I don't know why these little black speckles are
>there :(

Try increase max_gradient and/or lower accuracy. This should remove those
spots.

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 17:34:16
Message: <MPG.158b63514d835d019897c3@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3b20e7f5@news.povray.org>, Simon says...
> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
> 
A very thirsty person holding his empty waterbottle waiting for the 
rains to start...

-- 
Regards,  Sander


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From: Leitha Hyde
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 20:20:40
Message: <3b216bd8@news.povray.org>
"Steve" wrote in message
>
> I've never seen sand that colour.
>
Me either, try making it a little bit lighter.

and how about a mirage?


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From: Dave Blandston
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 8 Jun 2001 23:32:19
Message: <3b2198c3@news.povray.org>
Yes, that sounds nice, too.

"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> > A skeleton.
> The reflecting Sphere over a checkered floor :-)


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From: D J  Brown
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 9 Jun 2001 00:04:41
Message: <3b21a059@news.povray.org>
Hmm... Is there enough moisture in the air of the desert to form clouds?

"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>


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From: 25ct
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 9 Jun 2001 18:13:47
Message: <3b229f9b@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

     How about footprints leading up to the top, and then a small silhouette
of a person. Or the same, but put the pattern of a 'sidewinder' snake there
instead, (if that's possible)?

    Nice pic though. You can do a lot with it, <says me!> <g>.

      ~Steve~

>
>
>
>


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From: 25ct
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 9 Jun 2001 18:21:36
Message: <3b22a170@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

     As regards those black specks, would it not be ok to 'clone' over them
using PS? Or is that not a 'done' thing? I'm unsure about this sort of
method after Poving an image as I've also had these 'specks' before when
experimenting.  Anyone?

   ~Steve~

>
>
>
>


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From: Ian Burgmyer
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 00:36:26
Message: <3b22f94a$1@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?

Let's see...

You could put some people or a few camels walking across the scene...

You could put some nice, grainy, tanish media to simulate sand blowing
around...

You could put an oasis in the middle (ooo, how lovely :-)...

You could put in a cheesy yellow-orange sun (if it'll work with your
clouds)...

You could put in a surreal-looking mirage...

You could put just about anything in.  Have fun with it ;-)

Nice clouds, BTW!

-Ian


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 09:30:38
Message: <slrn9i6tgt.a37.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:20:32 +0100, 25ct wrote:
>
>"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
>news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
>> Hi,
>> I don't know what to add to this picture.
>> Any suggestions?
>
>     As regards those black specks, would it not be ok to 'clone' over them
>using PS? Or is that not a 'done' thing? I'm unsure about this sort of
>method after Poving an image as I've also had these 'specks' before when
>experimenting.  Anyone?

     XX
     XX
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
     XX
     XX
     XX
     XX

Be gone evil one!!

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From: 25ct
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 10:25:12
Message: <3b238348@news.povray.org>
"Steve" <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain...
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:20:32 +0100, 25ct wrote:
> >
> >"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
> >news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
> >> Hi,
> >> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> >> Any suggestions?
> >
> >     As regards those black specks, would it not be ok to 'clone' over
them
> >using PS? Or is that not a 'done' thing? I'm unsure about this sort of
> >method after Poving an image as I've also had these 'specks' before when
> >experimenting.  Anyone?
>
>      XX
>      XX
> XXXXXXXXXXXXX
>      XX
>      XX
>      XX
>      XX
>
> Be gone evil one!!

    LOL! Like it!  I take it that's a 'no' then?

     I can live with that...  ;)

   ~Steve~

>
> --
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 12:20:17
Message: <slrn9i77f4.ahi.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:24:46 +0100, 25ct wrote:
>
>    LOL! Like it!  I take it that's a 'no' then?
>
>     I can live with that...  ;)

If you do it properly in the first place you don't get little 
black spots. 

Black spots are often caused by coincidence surfaces, and can 
be rexolved by moving or enlarging one of your objects by a 
very small amount. 

By the sounds of it there is actually a different cause for the 
black spots in this image, and a solution (which I don't understand),
has already been given. 

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From: 25ct
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 14:33:20
Message: <3b23bd70@news.povray.org>
"Steve" <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:24:46 +0100, 25ct wrote:
> >
> >    LOL! Like it!  I take it that's a 'no' then?
> >
> >     I can live with that...  ;)
>
> If you do it properly in the first place you don't get little
> black spots.
>
> Black spots are often caused by coincidence surfaces, and can
> be rexolved by moving or enlarging one of your objects by a
> very small amount.
>
> By the sounds of it there is actually a different cause for the
> black spots in this image, and a solution (which I don't understand),
> has already been given.

      Yes, noted Steve. Thankfully, I haven't had them for some time, (and I
don't know why I did get them), but Mark-Hendrick's answer is also noted,
(for when I get to that level).   ;)

   ~Steve~

>
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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 10 Jun 2001 23:02:07
Message: <chrishuff-2B5746.22020710062001@povray.org>
In article <3b20e7f5@news.povray.org>,
 "Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote:

> Any suggestions?

Rocks, pebbles, maybe some rock formations, more structure to the sand 
(wind-blown ripples). Plants. Less clouds, thinner and higher ones.
A more cream, orange, or red colored sand, I've never seen any that 
yellow.
The skull of some kind of horned cattle, and a beaten-up wood sign with 
the name of some town on it.

-- 
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TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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From: Batronyx
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 11 Jun 2001 00:07:54
Message: <3b24441a@news.povray.org>
25ct <25c### [at] lineonenet> wrote in message <3b22a170@news.povray.org>...
>
>"Simon" <sim### [at] surfeude> wrote in message
>news:3b20e7f5@news.povray.org...
>> Hi,
>> I don't know what to add to this picture.
>> Any suggestions?
>
>     As regards those black specks, would it not be ok to 'clone' over them
>using PS? Or is that not a 'done' thing? I'm unsure about this sort of
>method after Poving an image as I've also had these 'specks' before when
>experimenting.  Anyone?
>
>   ~Steve~

You're the artist. You decide. You lose some points in the
technical-bragging-rights arena, and it isn't permitted if you want to enter
anything in the IRTC, and Steve will burn you at the stake. But yeah, it's done,
just not real often here.

Interesting to note though, the higher up you go on the monetary scale with
respect to the cost of the 3d app, the more post work you see done on the final
images in PS. Of course I think the more you pay for your app, the more likely
you are to depend on its results for your paycheck, so, things like cloning and
multi-pass become a necessity if you want to eat.

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From: Daniel Lin
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 11 Jun 2001 00:08:44
Message: <3b24444c@news.povray.org>
My suggestion: a scorpion carrying little scorpion babies defending itself
from a rattler snake.  Give a little element of action to the picture, huh?

--
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From: Eitan Tal
Subject: Re: a desert
Date: 29 Sep 2001 09:48:01
Message: <3BB5D020.61ECC375@netvision.net.il>
Hi!
I've randomally got to see your image.
you'd probably get some inspiration from my image:
[Image]

Yours, Eitan Tal, a fellow Pov-Ray user. (eit### [at] netvisionnetil),
ICQ: 1515298
Good Luck!

P.s.
I'm sorry if I'm too late. If I am, I'd like to see the image you made.

Simon wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know what to add to this picture.
> Any suggestions?
>
>  [Image]


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