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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 8 Jun 2001 08:06:16
Message: <3B20BFF5.EEB6150B@gmx.de>
Norbert Kern wrote:
> 
> Christoph, what is a hierarchical grouping?
> You mentioned this in your "water tunnel final" thread and I am very
> interested but unsuspecting.

If you group the trees with union{} in a tree-like structure this can
speed up things a lot.  For example combine two trees standing near to
each other and combine two of these 'doubles' and so on.  If the trees are
placed in a (more or less) regular grid, a recursive macro would be best
for that, otherwise things can be more difficult.  

I'm not sure how much can be gained in this case, so maybe it's not worth
the efforts.

> 
> I tried radiosity my second version and the most simple settings. Rendering
> time increased by a factor of twenty without any visible advantage.
> I will try a fill light as you suggest.
> 

Adding radiosity and no visible effect - very strange.  For experiments i
would use a 'light' version without the grass and reflections and only a
few trees BTW.  

Christoph

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 8 Jun 2001 13:14:17
Message: <slrn9i1p6r.ttj.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:11:07 +0200, Norbert Kern wrote:

>Suggestions?

Superb image!

But I'd expect trees in such a wet environment to have much
larger leaves, trees that have small leaves tend to be in 
dry locations where the leaves have to be small to reduce
water loss. 

Your methods seem to be serving you well. 

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From: Duncan Gray
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 8 Jun 2001 16:17:01
Message: <3b2132bd@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:
> <snip>
> Suggestions?

I love it just the way it is.

But can you render me up a 2" flat pebble, I dying to see if I can bounce it
all the way to the other bank.

Insects and Fish spring to mind, but I'm not sure if either would be
noticable in the scene; I'll let you decide.

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Duncan Gray
(warning: may contain traces of nut)


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 10 Jun 2001 01:03:27
Message: <3B22FE0A.651AB9DB@faricy.net>
The last one looked better IMO.  Looks like jpeg stuff.  Can you link to
a lower compression version?

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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 10 Jun 2001 05:02:49
Message: <3b2337b9$1@news.povray.org>

But by changing textures and adding a fill light the results are better now.
It is also necessary to render with at least AA 0.1.
And yes, there are some jpeg artefacts (notice to me: 42 % quality is too
low).
Tomorrow I will post a better fourth version hopefully.



"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3B22FE0A.651AB9DB@faricy.net...
> The last one looked better IMO.  Looks like jpeg stuff.  Can you link to
> a lower compression version?
>
> --
> David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
> My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 10 Jun 2001 05:12:14
Message: <3b2339ee$1@news.povray.org>
thanks.
The mud is obviously lacking things like stones, twigs or leaves.
They will be added soon.
I will have to add insects to avoid zero points in concept definitively.




"Duncan Gray" <dun### [at] eclipsecouk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3b2132bd@news.povray.org...
>
> I love it just the way it is.
>
> But can you render me up a 2" flat pebble, I dying to see if I can bounce
it
> all the way to the other bank.
>
> Insects and Fish spring to mind, but I'm not sure if either would be
> noticable in the scene; I'll let you decide.
>
> --
> Duncan Gray
> (warning: may contain traces of nut)


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 10 Jun 2001 05:38:18
Message: <3b23400a$1@news.povray.org>
I live in middle europe in bavaria. We call temporarily flooded areas in

As far as I know, in such areas grow trees like willows, alders, sorts of

to them.
Nethertheless the leaves should be in the range of 5 to 15 cm ( 2 to 6
inch).

Perhaps you have experiences with a more tropic climate?

Norbert



"Steve" <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain...
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:11:07 +0200, Norbert Kern wrote:

>
> Superb image!
>
> But I'd expect trees in such a wet environment to have much
> larger leaves, trees that have small leaves tend to be in
> dry locations where the leaves have to be small to reduce
> water loss.
>
> Your methods seem to be serving you well.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve              email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps.
>
> web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
>
> or  http://start.at/zero-pps
>
>   3:42pm  up 126 days, 16:32,  2 users,  load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 10 Jun 2001 10:50:38
Message: <3B2388C2.94A0BBCB@pacbell.net>
Norbert Kern wrote:

> I will have to add insects to avoid zero points in concept definitively.


Butterflies ?

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 11 Jun 2001 17:53:29
Message: <3B253C3D.AEB912B@faricy.net>
> And yes, there are some jpeg artefacts (notice to me: 42 % quality is too
> low).
> Tomorrow I will post a better fourth version hopefully.

Okay.  I see that cross hatch pattern in it.  No way that came from POV.

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: IRTC-WIP3
Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:29:06
Message: <chrishuff-547262.12290912062001@povray.org>
In article <3B2388C2.94A0BBCB@pacbell.net>, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> 
wrote:

> Butterflies ?

I'm thinking of insects that come from an aquatic nymphal/pupal form: 
mayflies, caddis flies, stoneflies, etc. And some swarms of midges.

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