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"News Flash.
Muggle photographs of the famous Hogwarts School for Magicians have just
surfaced. Obviously smuggled out of the area and having avoided all magic
detection, these are the first known photographs available to muggles ever
published."
01 is the castle
02 is Hagrid's looking back towards the castle
The ground is bizarre... the trees are too. I'm experimenting. The ground
is a three level texture. I've got more work to play with. It is not bad
in the distance, but up close, it gets an alien look to it.
Enjoy.
Robert J Becraft
aka cas### [at] aol com
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Where's the moat?
Robert J Becraft wrote:
> "News Flash.
>
> Muggle photographs of the famous Hogwarts School for Magicians have just
> surfaced. Obviously smuggled out of the area and having avoided all magic
> detection, these are the first known photographs available to muggles ever
> published."
>
> 01 is the castle
> 02 is Hagrid's looking back towards the castle
>
> The ground is bizarre... the trees are too. I'm experimenting. The ground
> is a three level texture. I've got more work to play with. It is not bad
> in the distance, but up close, it gets an alien look to it.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Robert J Becraft
> aka cas### [at] aolcom
>
> [Image]
>
> [Image]
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I've got a picture in my head after reading the books... there are some
details that escape me at this point. I'll have re-read the books to get a
better idea of things I may have missed. My 13-year old tells me the castle
is on a hill and the great hall is off to the left after you enter the main
doors. The whomping willow is supposed to be off to the left from Hagrid's
(02), but in my mind, I have it to the right and behind Hagrid's. The lake
is also behind Hagrid's.
Half the job is in just getting the objects to place on the terrain. I can
move things around after I've got them created. That actually is the easy
part.
The castle needs a few more towers as well.
Regards, Robert
aka cas### [at] aolcom
Psychomech <psy### [at] homecom> wrote in message
news:3A5D8557.4EB01A42@home.com...
> Where's the moat?
>
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Robert J Becraft <cas### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> I've got a picture in my head after reading the books... there are some
> details that escape me at this point. I'll have re-read the books to get a
> better idea of things I may have missed. My 13-year old tells me the castle
> is on a hill and the great hall is off to the left after you enter the main
> doors. The whomping willow is supposed to be off to the left from Hagrid's
> (02), but in my mind, I have it to the right and behind Hagrid's. The lake
> is also behind Hagrid's.
> Half the job is in just getting the objects to place on the terrain. I can
> move things around after I've got them created. That actually is the easy
> part.
> The castle needs a few more towers as well.
My image was always of a taller structure. I (perhaps incorrectly) remember
harry looking up at the castle from the lake on his first time there, so it
has to be on a hill or something. They also talk about lots of floors and
going up and down lots of stairs, so I'd think you'd want something taller
and less wide.
Just my thoughts.
Geoff
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"Geoff Wedig" <wed### [at] darwinepbicwruedu> wrote in message
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>
> My image was always of a taller structure. I (perhaps incorrectly)
remember
> harry looking up at the castle from the lake on his first time there, so
it
> has to be on a hill or something. They also talk about lots of floors and
> going up and down lots of stairs, so I'd think you'd want something taller
> and less wide.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
This is pretty much my impression. Also, I don't recall a moat, just a lake.
To be honest, I don't find the books that evocative of place. Gormanghast -
now there's a castle....
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I always thought of it like the one in Bavaria built by King Kudwig II.
Tom Melly wrote:
> "Geoff Wedig" <wed### [at] darwinepbicwruedu> wrote in message
> news:3a5dd0a3@news.povray.org...
> >
> > My image was always of a taller structure. I (perhaps incorrectly)
> remember
> > harry looking up at the castle from the lake on his first time there, so
> it
> > has to be on a hill or something. They also talk about lots of floors and
> > going up and down lots of stairs, so I'd think you'd want something taller
> > and less wide.
> >
> > Just my thoughts.
> >
>
> This is pretty much my impression. Also, I don't recall a moat, just a lake.
> To be honest, I don't find the books that evocative of place. Gormanghast -
> now there's a castle....
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"Psychomech" <psy### [at] homecom> wrote in message
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> I always thought of it like the one in Bavaria built by King Kudwig II.
>
Kudwig? ;) Hmm, I hadn't thought of it as that "clean" - I imagined it as
more gothic. I'm not sure if all this speculation indicates that the book is
more visual than I thought or less so.... The difference of opinion would
seem to indicate the latter. Anyway, way OT. (But give me Phillip Pullman
anyday of the week).
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Impressive. I'm not sure how realistic it is but I think the atmosphere is very
good, especially in the second image (#2). I didn't have a clear picture of the
castle but would have thought it to be a bit less smooth and wellstructured, a
bit more chaotic and higher. That is of course the thing that also happens every
time you see a movie after a book you read. It's always different from what you
pictured it to be. I wonder what the Potter-movie will bring. I read they had an
American kid playing Harry... shudder...
Anyway, great images, I always like your architectural scenes.
Remco
Robert J Becraft wrote:
>
> "News Flash.
>
> Muggle photographs of the famous Hogwarts School for Magicians have just
> surfaced. Obviously smuggled out of the area and having avoided all magic
> detection, these are the first known photographs available to muggles ever
> published."
>
> 01 is the castle
> 02 is Hagrid's looking back towards the castle
>
> The ground is bizarre... the trees are too. I'm experimenting. The ground
> is a three level texture. I've got more work to play with. It is not bad
> in the distance, but up close, it gets an alien look to it.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Robert J Becraft
> aka cas### [at] aolcom
>
> [Image]
>
> [Image]
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OOPS I mean Ludwig the second
Tom Melly wrote:
> "Psychomech" <psy### [at] homecom> wrote in message
> news:3A5E0A8C.6A8EBAB1@home.com...
> > I always thought of it like the one in Bavaria built by King Kudwig II.
> >
>
> Kudwig? ;) Hmm, I hadn't thought of it as that "clean" - I imagined it as
> more gothic. I'm not sure if all this speculation indicates that the book is
> more visual than I thought or less so.... The difference of opinion would
> seem to indicate the latter. Anyway, way OT. (But give me Phillip Pullman
> anyday of the week).
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"Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
news:3A5E2537.6790ABBB@onwijs.com...
> American kid playing Harry... shudder...
I'm fairly sure Rowling vetoed anything but uk kid.
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Dainel Radcliffe Who is to play Harry Potter in the movie is UK born so no need to
shudder....
Remco de Korte wrote:
> Impressive. I'm not sure how realistic it is but I think the atmosphere is very
> good, especially in the second image (#2). I didn't have a clear picture of the
> castle but would have thought it to be a bit less smooth and wellstructured, a
> bit more chaotic and higher. That is of course the thing that also happens every
> time you see a movie after a book you read. It's always different from what you
> pictured it to be. I wonder what the Potter-movie will bring. I read they had an
> American kid playing Harry... shudder...
> Anyway, great images, I always like your architectural scenes.
>
> Remco
>
> Robert J Becraft wrote:
> >
> > "News Flash.
> >
> > Muggle photographs of the famous Hogwarts School for Magicians have just
> > surfaced. Obviously smuggled out of the area and having avoided all magic
> > detection, these are the first known photographs available to muggles ever
> > published."
> >
> > 01 is the castle
> > 02 is Hagrid's looking back towards the castle
> >
> > The ground is bizarre... the trees are too. I'm experimenting. The ground
> > is a three level texture. I've got more work to play with. It is not bad
> > in the distance, but up close, it gets an alien look to it.
> >
> > Enjoy.
> >
> > Robert J Becraft
> > aka cas### [at] aolcom
> >
> > [Image]
> >
> > [Image]
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Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> "Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
> news:3A5E2537.6790ABBB@onwijs.com...
>> American kid playing Harry... shudder...
> I'm fairly sure Rowling vetoed anything but uk kid.
She did. Spielburg wanted the kid from Sixth Sense, but she veto'd it, and
for that reason, he left the project. So insteand, we're getting the
director from the Home Alone movies *shudder* ....
Geoff
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"Geoff Wedig" <wed### [at] darwinepbicwruedu> wrote in message
news:3a5f0359@news.povray.org...
> She did. Spielburg wanted the kid from Sixth Sense, but she veto'd it,
and
> for that reason, he left the project. So insteand, we're getting the
> director from the Home Alone movies *shudder* ....
>
Chris Columbus!?! Oh, God... On the whole, I'd rather have gone with
Spielburg and the 6th Sense kid...
Rowling is weird - they broadcast a reading of the first book on the radio
over here on boxing day. The whole thing, unabridged, without breaks. It was
the only way she would let it happen.
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Psychomech wrote:
>
> Dainel Radcliffe Who is to play Harry Potter in the movie is UK born so no need to
> shudder....
>
Obviously I wasn't quite up-to-date but reading the other messages there still
may be cause for concern?
I wonder: why can't this be an English (British?) movie? The UK does have its
own industry, but perhaps they lack the funds?
Remco
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"Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
news:3A5F1150.2EB1FB59@onwijs.com...
> I wonder: why can't this be an English (British?) movie? The UK does have
its
> own industry, but perhaps they lack the funds?
>
Getting way OT here (weee!), but basically a) we're a bit crap and b) it
seems fair to assume that the best offer to Rowling came from the States.
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Thanks for expanding my vision. I must relate my shock (and strong
*appreciation*) at seeing trees of the kind of construction you used. I used a
similar method in my first IRTC entry, and was frankly way too thin-skinned
about how it fared. The message droned into my head over the years was "cool &
stylistic: BAD." This is no fault of anyone but my own, but goes to show how
one can retreat from a useful style for the wrong reasons--I need to unlearn
what I've been learning. I often wonder what I would be producing if I'd
waited much longer before submitting stuff to the IRTC.
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Tom Melly wrote:
>
> "Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
> news:3A5F1150.2EB1FB59@onwijs.com...
>
> > I wonder: why can't this be an English (British?) movie? The UK does have
> its
> > own industry, but perhaps they lack the funds?
> >
>
> Getting way OT here (weee!), but basically a) we're a bit crap and b) it
> seems fair to assume that the best offer to Rowling came from the States.
Sorry, got carried away a bit...
Chances are a big part of the movie will be computer generated.
Anyway, it's a great theme for POV-scenes as is shown by these two images (at
the top of the thread).
Remco
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Damn that's cool, great atmosphere!
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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery: http://davidf.faricy.net/
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I actually developed these trees very early. I downloaded an animation off
of AOL that was a walk through a forest. The trees for that were cones on
cylinders... I made them multi-cones on cone trunks with clear spots in the
texture. I've played with this texture for 4 years now... still haven't
gotten something I like.
The other problem is the rand function in POV is too regular. If you create
a set of random objects in a 50x50 area, and look at them from above, they
come out looking like a 50x50 box with mostly evenly placed objects. I'd
like to have the objects truely randomly placed in the box such that some
areas were denser than others, leaving clearings etc.
Haven't found a way to do this yet. This would also help when generating
tree-parts or vines for buildings in that the clear spaces would be openings
in the branches or exposed wall sections.
If anyone has a way to get this to happen in POV I'd surely like to have it.
Robert.
aka cas### [at] aolcom
Greg M. Johnson <gre### [at] my-dejanewscom> wrote in message
news:3A5F4AF4.F433D124@my-dejanews.com...
> Thanks for expanding my vision. I must relate my shock (and strong
> *appreciation*) at seeing trees of the kind of construction you used. I
used a
> similar method in my first IRTC entry, and was frankly way too
thin-skinned
> about how it fared. The message droned into my head over the years was
"cool &
> stylistic: BAD." This is no fault of anyone but my own, but goes to show
how
> one can retreat from a useful style for the wrong reasons--I need to
unlearn
> what I've been learning. I often wonder what I would be producing if I'd
> waited much longer before submitting stuff to the IRTC.
>
>
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It's just fog.
David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> Damn that's cool, great atmosphere!
>
> --
> David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> ICQ 55354965
> My raytracing gallery: http://davidf.faricy.net/
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Robert J Becraft wrote:
> It's just fog.
The castle and trees are totally awesome too though. :)
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Robert J Becraft wrote:
> The other problem is the rand function in POV is too regular. If you create
> a set of random objects in a 50x50 area, and look at them from above, they
> come out looking like a 50x50 box with mostly evenly placed objects. I'd
> like to have the objects truely randomly placed in the box such that some
> areas were denser than others, leaving clearings etc.
Try using the eval_pigment function in Megapov for this. Define a pigment and
then use the returned value to define the probability of apparition (or scale,
rotation etc.) of the object . You can even use an image_map for this if you
want very tight control.
G.
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Few Notes about the Harry Potter Movie....
1) It is being filmed in the UK
2) Most if not all of the cast is either British or Dual Citizenship
3) It is Being Filmed at Warwick castle (i think i may be wrong on this one)
4) And they already have Pics from the movie so far.
Remco de Korte wrote:
> Tom Melly wrote:
> >
> > "Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
> > news:3A5F1150.2EB1FB59@onwijs.com...
> >
> > > I wonder: why can't this be an English (British?) movie? The UK does have
> > its
> > > own industry, but perhaps they lack the funds?
> > >
> >
> > Getting way OT here (weee!), but basically a) we're a bit crap and b) it
> > seems fair to assume that the best offer to Rowling came from the States.
>
> Sorry, got carried away a bit...
>
> Chances are a big part of the movie will be computer generated.
> Anyway, it's a great theme for POV-scenes as is shown by these two images (at
> the top of the thread).
>
> Remco
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Psychomech wrote:
>
> Few Notes about the Harry Potter Movie....
>
> 1) It is being filmed in the UK
> 2) Most if not all of the cast is either British or Dual Citizenship
> 3) It is Being Filmed at Warwick castle (i think i may be wrong on this one)
> 4) And they already have Pics from the movie so far.
>
Thanks for the update. I guess I should be reassured ;)
Nice owl, by the way. How did you model that? Isosurface?
Remco
Follow-up to off-topic... oops
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Robert J Becraft <cas### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> I actually developed these trees very early. I downloaded an animation off
> of AOL that was a walk through a forest. The trees for that were cones on
> cylinders... I made them multi-cones on cone trunks with clear spots in the
> texture. I've played with this texture for 4 years now... still haven't
> gotten something I like.
> The other problem is the rand function in POV is too regular. If you create
> a set of random objects in a 50x50 area, and look at them from above, they
> come out looking like a 50x50 box with mostly evenly placed objects. I'd
> like to have the objects truely randomly placed in the box such that some
> areas were denser than others, leaving clearings etc.
Actually, that would be *less* random, in a strict sense, but more natural.
> Haven't found a way to do this yet. This would also help when generating
> tree-parts or vines for buildings in that the clear spaces would be openings
> in the branches or exposed wall sections.
> If anyone has a way to get this to happen in POV I'd surely like to have it.
I've got one. I use a image map as a density pattern. When I choose a
point, it looks up the density and has to meet the threshold with an
additional random number. In addition, that random number determines the
tree size, if it is successful. When a tree is added, the density is
lessened, meaning that the trees group, but big trees stifle growth around
them. Gives very nice 'copsing' behavior.
An example image can be found at
http://darwin.cwru.edu/wedig/public_html/wgraphics/Leaves.jpg
It uses Gilles Trans' tree macro, and a really awful HF, but other than
that, looks pretty nice.
The code is not ready for prime time, but if you want it, I'd be willing to
send a copy, or post it to sf.
Geoff
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Gives me an 404 - Not found ...?
Marc-Hendrik
Geoff Wedig schrieb in Nachricht <3a6449b0@news.povray.org>...
>An example image can be found at
>http://darwin.cwru.edu/wedig/public_html/wgraphics/Leaves.jpg
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Geoff Wedig wrote:
> > The other problem is the rand function in POV is too regular. If you create
> > a set of random objects in a 50x50 area, and look at them from above, they
> > come out looking like a 50x50 box with mostly evenly placed objects. I'd
> > like to have the objects truely randomly placed in the box such that some
> > areas were denser than others, leaving clearings etc.
>
> Actually, that would be *less* random, in a strict sense, but more natural.
It's a different type of "noise", white noise vs. pink noise vs. gaussian (etc
there's probably more). Maybe mathematicians consider some more "random", I don't
know enough to say for sure. But definitely, a fractaline gaussian noise would be
more natural for this scenario.
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There are lots of notes you can find online....
The official site is www.harrypotter.com
You can also find lots of stuff on Yahoo by searching for "Harry Potter".
Psychomech <psy### [at] homecom> wrote in message
news:3A6339EB.D9019B5B@home.com...
> Few Notes about the Harry Potter Movie....
>
> 1) It is being filmed in the UK
> 2) Most if not all of the cast is either British or Dual Citizenship
> 3) It is Being Filmed at Warwick castle (i think i may be wrong on this
one)
> 4) And they already have Pics from the movie so far.
>
> Remco de Korte wrote:
>
> > Tom Melly wrote:
> > >
> > > "Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
> > > news:3A5F1150.2EB1FB59@onwijs.com...
> > >
> > > > I wonder: why can't this be an English (British?) movie? The UK does
have
> > > its
> > > > own industry, but perhaps they lack the funds?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Getting way OT here (weee!), but basically a) we're a bit crap and b)
it
> > > seems fair to assume that the best offer to Rowling came from the
States.
> >
> > Sorry, got carried away a bit...
> >
> > Chances are a big part of the movie will be computer generated.
> > Anyway, it's a great theme for POV-scenes as is shown by these two
images (at
> > the top of the thread).
> >
> > Remco
>
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Don't know about Warwick Castle - it's possible that some of the filming may
be there but I do know that the main location for Hogwarts is Gloucester
Cathedral, which has caused some controversy amongst Christians because of
the witchcraft associations (although Gloucester locals including the Dean
and Chapter of the Cathedral don't seem to be so concerned).
For the record "First years are not allowed to use their own modelling
tools"
"Remco de Korte" <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
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> Psychomech wrote:
> >
> > Few Notes about the Harry Potter Movie....
> >
> > 3) It is Being Filmed at Warwick castle (i think i may be wrong on this
one)
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Robert J Becraft wrote:
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> There are lots of notes you can find online....
>
> The official site is www.harrypotter.com
>
> You can also find lots of stuff on Yahoo by searching for "Harry Potter".
>
Just wanted to mention that I saw a site yesterday with some trivia on the movie
and my scpeticism turned into mild enthusiasm when I looked at the cast. Seems
that John Cleese and Rik Mayall are playing (minor) parts. That should be fun. I
also like the choice of Robbie Coltrane. Too bad I'll have to wait until
november to see it.
Remco
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> Rowling is weird - they broadcast a reading of the first book on the radio
> over here on boxing day. The whole thing, unabridged, without breaks. It
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> the only way she would let it happen.
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I don't think this is weird - just different. Because of the conditions it
got great publicity and I think that it is fair to say that only the BBC
would agree to work in this way.
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